Portal 2 - DLC Backlash
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What is it with us and our sense of entitlement? Really? It's times like this that make me facepalm and go back to playing Sonic.
Fraid not. The DLC costumes are unique. No Jack Sparrow costume in LittleBigPlanet or Judge Dredd or the Origami Killer or Spider-Man... dozens of unique costumes only available for purchase.drakythe said:
You could not buy any in-game costume as a DLC.
You sound like one of those people who ***** when I put my pointer finger right between their eyes. I AM NOT TOUCHING YOU! My finger is not affecting you at all! Just don't look at it! Nana-nana-boo-boo!Dense_Electric said:
Anyway, it's hard to tell if Day 1 DLCs represent added value for the player or a rip-off. There is time between the last day of development time and release day. Who knows? Maybe they spent that time working furiously on quality DLC. Maybe they totally had the Day 1 DLC ready months ago, but they invested more resources into the game thanks to the promise of Day 1 DLC sales. Maybe we're getting a better product because of Day 1 DLC. On the other hand, maybe we are just paying extra for something we would have gotten anyway. I think that's more likely. We probably would have been better off sticking with unlockables and expansions, rather than this high price, low content DLC approach.
Also, it makes little difference that these DLCs are mostly cosmetic. It's an issue of resources translating to value. The nature of the content doesn't matter. The question isn't, "What is the impact of DLC on the game as I bought it?" The question is, "What impact does DLC have on the value of the final delivered product?" That is tricky and probably varies between cases, but in my opinion we are probably worse off with the DLC approach in general.
Seriously I don't get complaining about DLC especially of Portal 2s variety. When you buy a laptop do they include all those color options for your case?
No you have to BUY them, do you need them? No. It's a product and these are accessories, no one is forcing you to buy it and if you feel the need to customize your robot then clearly the DLC is for you, but you have to pay for it.
No you have to BUY them, do you need them? No. It's a product and these are accessories, no one is forcing you to buy it and if you feel the need to customize your robot then clearly the DLC is for you, but you have to pay for it.
Those color options represent added value, which is why you pay for them. People are upset about Day 1 DLC because it gives the appearance of lower value in the final product. Whether it's fair or not, the appearance is like they started selling laptops with the 'M' key missing but for the same price. Then, they allow people the fabulous opportunity of purchasing an 'M' key at a later date for the low-low price of $3. So you are spending a little more to get what you would have gotten anyway. At least, that is the perception.Snotnarok said:
Content DLC on day one pisses me off greatly if you have to pay for it, i mean FFS its just encouraging companies to make unfinished games or hack lumps off to make people pay more for them. Project 10 dollar i'm more neutral on, but cosmetic DLC? i honestly couldnt care less as i would never buy it anyway.
Call me self entitled if you like, i really dont care.
Call me self entitled if you like, i really dont care.
If by not being able to dress up your avatar in rollcages, bicycle parts, or whatever they have in those DLC makes it look like to ANYONE that it lowers the value of Portal 2, then I think the gaming community in general has reached the brainpower of two bricks simmering in the sun.Rooster Cogburn said:
The thing is that Valve always gives new MAJOR content as either standard or freely obtainable as long as you work for it. The TF2 store is only ever for nonessential items, and they'd never restrict such a major thing as a whole level.
For some thats part of the enjoyment, the gaming experience, it was pretty awesome when we first started being able to customize chars to our liking, the reason for the backlash is that its an element that makes the game more enjoyable for some, so why not release your game with as much potential for the customer to enjoy as possible ? Why have side "Extras" it means, you knew that some would want it, and instead of putting your all into the game, youre offering it on the side.Zay-el said:
I loved portal, but i found it extremely overpriced for what it was, basically a puzzle game, no new engine or major overhauls were needed for the game, it even used a fair bit of hl2 textures and props later.
Portal 2 is even more of a ripoff for me considering the lacking aspects, portal 1 at least was selling me an original concept, portal 2 isn't. The investment in the portal series is smaller in comparison to that of say hl2, so the price should be respectively lower.
IT IS ALL COSMETIC.
IT CAN ALL BE UNLOCKED WITHOUT PAYING A PENNY.
It's sad how successful the metabombing was, even if the scores are going up now that it's stopped it's left tons of people misinformed over the content of the game.
- Game lasts more than 4 hours, I clocked 7 hours single player and 4 1/2 hours co-op.
- It is not a console port, Valve just kept all the text in the same string and forgot to remove a couple lines pertaining to consoles in their rush to get the game certified.
- There is no DLC, cosmetic items are NOT DLC, all items can be obtained simply by playing the game if you do not wish to purchase from the store. They are unlockables, having the option to buy said unlockables does not make Valve evil.
IT CAN ALL BE UNLOCKED WITHOUT PAYING A PENNY.
It's sad how successful the metabombing was, even if the scores are going up now that it's stopped it's left tons of people misinformed over the content of the game.
- Game lasts more than 4 hours, I clocked 7 hours single player and 4 1/2 hours co-op.
- It is not a console port, Valve just kept all the text in the same string and forgot to remove a couple lines pertaining to consoles in their rush to get the game certified.
- There is no DLC, cosmetic items are NOT DLC, all items can be obtained simply by playing the game if you do not wish to purchase from the store. They are unlockables, having the option to buy said unlockables does not make Valve evil.
Day 1 DLC is evil. However, this is cosmetic skins. It's really not what I'd call DLC. I'd be annoyed if it was like the stuff EA have been doing, with actual story-related DLC on day 1, but this is nothing. The people Metacritic-bombing Portal 2 are just being whiny brats with an over-developed sense of entitlement.
Metacritic Critic's Score for Portal 2- 95
Metacritic Users' Score for Portal 2- Somewhere between a 5 and a 6
I wanted to facepalm so hard that it would create a sort of facepalm singularity. The way these reviews read, it's like Valve forced them to pay a further $80 to activate the game after buying it, then another $20 to move on from the first test chamber. The DLC is completely cosmetic and in no way is needed for the game in any way- heck, I wouldn't even know it existed if not for this stupid backlash. If you don't want the extra costumes and stuff, just don't buy them. It's as simple as that. Just play the game and actually try to enjoy it- you could have fun!
I picked up Portal 2 for PS3 today, and what I've played so far I've absolutely fallen in love with. It is a sublimely engineered and perfectly written game thus far, and I'm maybe an hour in. Cosmetic DLC does not change the fact that I'm enjoying the experience immensely.
Metacritic Users' Score for Portal 2- Somewhere between a 5 and a 6
I wanted to facepalm so hard that it would create a sort of facepalm singularity. The way these reviews read, it's like Valve forced them to pay a further $80 to activate the game after buying it, then another $20 to move on from the first test chamber. The DLC is completely cosmetic and in no way is needed for the game in any way- heck, I wouldn't even know it existed if not for this stupid backlash. If you don't want the extra costumes and stuff, just don't buy them. It's as simple as that. Just play the game and actually try to enjoy it- you could have fun!
I picked up Portal 2 for PS3 today, and what I've played so far I've absolutely fallen in love with. It is a sublimely engineered and perfectly written game thus far, and I'm maybe an hour in. Cosmetic DLC does not change the fact that I'm enjoying the experience immensely.
No, that doesn't stand because the DLC in Portal 2 do not add anything. It's cosmetic like a laptop case, which are made before the product is finished. Do you get a colored case with your ipod? No you have to buy that separately.Rooster Cogburn said:
They give you what's needed and the rest is optional stuff that doesn't effect the game.
I wouldn't consider it DLC. It's a microtransaction shop. It's not story based or anything like that, it purely adds a view cosmetic changes if someone wants them. It's not much different to buying players in the Ultimate Team modes in the new EA games, if anything it's even less needed.believer258 said:
True, it is basically just money grabbing, but so what? They are a business. Businesses need to make money, it's the sole reason they exist.