Preorders: Have you been screwed?

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TakeyB0y2

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Cities XL... Couldn't ask for a possibly more boring city sim. It's been a decade since SimCity 4 came out, and to this date I haven't played a city sim game that's entertained me anywhere near as much. When I saw trailers for Cities XL, I was like ERMERGERD IT'S BEAUTIFUL! But it's so... Bleh. Not to mention it was completely unstable, has frequent memory leaks, and crashed a lot.

I also pre-ordered Mass Effect 3 and got the collector's edition. I still haven't beaten it because I'm too scared to (I'm weird). Soooo, I guess I screwed myself with that x_X
 

krazykidd

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I have never preodered anything. So i have never been screwed . I don't buy collector editions of games so i don't need to preorder . I ALMOST preordered the Wii-U then Said fuck it, i don'f even want it on release . Funny thing is , stores never ran out of stock because no one was buying it .
 

Therumancer

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My thoughts on the subject are mixed. In general money is an issue with me, so when I have spare cash I oftentimes will pre-order a game I think I'm going to like, rather than trying to scrape together the money at the last minute since things always seem to come up. My taste in games being odd enough, where I don't always agree with the popular perception of what is good or bad anyway (though I do wind up matching most trends in the final equasion).

That said, I haven't been pre-ordering a lot of games recently, due to there being very few that really impress me on the horizon, and I have to admit Total Biscuit makes some good points about why you shouldn't pre-order.

To be honest though I'll say that I'm not entirely shocked by the whole way "Colonial Marines" turned out. I've commented on the game before, even if I'm not a FPS player so had no desire to run right out and buy it, namely in saying that it seemed like a reasonable take on how such a scenario would play out according to the IP based on what
we saw, and that it's possible Gearbox could do a good job. I do however remember mentioning a couple of times that I think Gearbox has been being a bit overrated because to be honest it seems like their only real success has been Borderlands, I could be forgetting something (or need another reminder if I've fogotten before) but to my knowlege nothing else they have done has been all that impressive. Their last outing into a straightforward FPS didn't turn out so hot (Duke Nukem). This was very much a hit or miss project, and while it would have been nice if they succeeded, it doesn't shock me that they wound up with a reaction a lot closer to DNF than Borderlands. It also occurs to m that they aren't exactly handling Borderlands well either, as right alongside this whole "Colonial Marines" debacle, I'm reading articles about how Gearbox designed itself into a corner, creating a situation where it can't raise the level cap of it's own game without breaking it, and this with something like 4 DLC packs none of which allow for further character advancement, all of which were planned when they knew this was going to be a problem. Gearbox increasingly doesn't seem like a good developer, but more like a bad developer that stumbled into a surprise success with an action RPG.

CB's points about pre-orders are good, but I think there is as much to say for gamers as consumers having very limited memories. Next time Gearbox releases a game, heck let's even say it's "Borderlands 3", how many people are going to remember what happened with Colonial Marines and have that influance their desician on whether to support the product initially or not? It's a problem when the successes of a company tend to outweigh it's failures to such a signifigant degree, it takes something really stupendous for gamers to remain focused for anything other than the extreme short term.
 

Zhukov

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Generally speaking I only pre-order when

a) It's a game I want to play regardless of quality.

b) They've thrown in some extra goodies.

I've occasionally ended up with a game I didn't like, but I can't remember ever being "screwed".

Oh, I did pre-order Duke Nukem Forever. However, that was an exercise in curiosity. I expected it to be pretty bad.
 

omicron1

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I tend to have a pretty good head for these things - I can sort of tell when a game's going to be good prior to buying. There are signs...
...one of the biggest being review embargoes. I don't preorder without a handful of good ratings. There's often a day or so of preorder gap between reviews and release, so...
 

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I preorder around 2-3 games a year, only with games that guarantee at least 20 hours of gameplay and replayability. (sandbox or RPG)

I generally enjoyed what I got, the only games I still haven't finished despite getting it Day 1 is Borderland 2. It feels soulless for some reasons, like an MMO.
 

babinro

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I preordered Resident Evil 6 Anthology knowing that RE6 was going to have no 'survival horror' elements to it.

The game itself was unbearable. Thankfully the pack came with RE1-5.
I don't own RE 1-3 and never played through all of 2 or 3.
In the end the game was worth the money because of the time spent with the classics.

RE6 on the other hand isn't even worth $10.00 IMO.

Note: Having revisited them all, RE3 is surprisingly great but RE4 is still king of the franchise and by a very wide margin IMO.
 

TrevHead

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I usually don't buy at launch and wait for the game to drop in price a little, the only games I do pre-order are Japanese localisations that I want to support and I know are good before release (Akia Katana or Zone of Enders HD 360) Buying buggy PC games blind at launch has stopped me been a sucker.

I've watched Total Biscuit's vid and while I agree with him, he might aswell be telling the sea's tide to not come in. This gen is littered with the corpses of critically acclaimed games and cult favorites as marketing & hype sell games, quality sadly doesn't unless it has a gimmick tacked on.

Edit Although RE6, Deadspace 3 and DMC have all sold under expected numbers, so maybe more gamers are been more discerning in their purchases (or it could be more gamers are sticking to Fifa and CoD).
 

RedDeadFred

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I have never EVER preordered a game. No matter how certain that I am going to love it (Skyrim and Borderlands 2). I never believe that a game is great until it has hit the shelves and I have gotten to see some reviews and reactions to it.
 

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Euphbug said:
Only once have I felt really screwed over by a pre-order, and that was with BRINK. In fact me and a decent group of fellas pre-ordered that one and we were gonna have an awesome time playing together...at least until we found out it sucked. Besides that I have had a pretty solid time with any game I decided to pre-order.
Same experience, and my pre-order bonus didn't even arrive with the fucking game.
 

Commissar Sae

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Only pre-order that burned me was Sniper: Ghost Warrior. I see the possibilities of the game, but the game was just mediocre and I barely spent any time on it.

Most of the other games I've pre-ordered have been well worth my time. Skyrim, New Vegas, Xcom, BRINK (yes I actually enjoyed it), Red Orchestra 2, Every Mount & Blade game after the first, Left 4 Dead 2, Space Marine. These were all well worth my time and money and every single one of them was played into the ground.

Technically I have also preordered a few Kickstarter games as well, but those aren't quite the same thing/
 

guidance

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I don't see the point at all in preordering from steam. It's a digital download, they aren't going to run out.

I do however see the point in preordering a retail copy of a game. I didn't think I was going to get diablo 3 but then decided to join all my friends a month later. It was sold out everywhere, had to go on a 2 hour bus ride to go find a hard copy (I really like physical copies of games).

If I know I really want the game, and if there is a high chance it being sold out for a while after release, then I will preorder. Most times I don't so I have never gotten screwed.
 

Jfswift

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Does WarZ count? It looked like fun so I preordered the lower tier version for myself and a friend. It was on sale at the time so its not like I was out a lot of money but still.

I will occasionally preorder because of the bonus crap the store or game company throws in to sweeten the deal, but it is a risk. I didn't on Dragons Dogma though, waiting for reviews first before buying.
 

Nouw

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Yup. They weren't bad games mind you, just not worth the full price.
 

porous_shield

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I think pre-ordering is a suckers game. I have never pre-ordered a game and I plan never to do so. I've never been so impatient that I have to play a game day 1, and I'm a PC gamer, so there are huge discounts at a number of digital distributors within months of release.
 

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Sword of the Stars II

I loved the original, put a ton of hours in it, and pre-ordered the sequel. I normally don't do pre-orders for the exact reasons Totalbiscuit listed, but hey, it's the sequel to one of my favorite games, it'll be fine, right? Nope.

They released a beta. The final product did not match up with what was promised, it wasn't a finished game. To the point where they patched it bi-weekly for over a year, still fixing bugs and glitches the whole time.

Apparently I got the first expansion for free because I pre-ordered (which is the least they could do), but I figure I'll give SOTS II another year or so of patching and expansions before I re-install it and give it a shot. I hear it is basically playable now, if still a bit wonky.

On the bright side, the original SOTS is still great fun.

I won't pre-order anything again, that's for sure.
 

MissP

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*sigh* really disappointed that Aliens ended up being so terrible.

I hardly ever preorder games, but I did it with Diablo 3...and that'll be the last time I ever do it, most likely. I wanted to guarantee that I'd have a physical copy, and I thought it was a no-brainer since Blizzard had a great track record with me. Everyone already knows why that game didn't exactly live up to expectations.

Never again! D:
 

jollybarracuda

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Eh, i don't see what's the matter with preordering a game. For the most part, a common gamer will be able to tell if a game will be crap or not, just off of experience and human intuition. There's exceptions, of course; i think its fair to say people didn't expect AC3 to be met with quite the response it got, but for the most part, people can tell if they like what they see, and if Steam offers an early install of the game to play it right when it comes out, and you've got that extreme excitement to play the game as soon as possible, then yah, why the hell not preorder. If I had a good enough computer to play Skyrim when it was releasing, you can bet that i would have preordered it (not sure if it had an early install though).

Basically, let people do what they want. I've yet to see TB's video on the matter, but the whole concept of a "Should you preorder" video just seems like unnecessary preaching. Thanks, but no thanks, TB. I love your commentary and opinion on games themselves, but don't act like you can tell people whether it's right or not to preorder. Even if there's no incentive, I don't see the problem. Maybe I have the money now and want to get the payment process out of the way?
 

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krazykidd said:
I have never preodered anything. So i have never been screwed . I don't buy collector editions of games so i don't need to preorder . I ALMOST preordered the Wii-U then Said fuck it, i don'f even want it on release . Funny thing is , stores never ran out of stock because no one was buying it .
My GameStop was out of stock a month and a half before it was released. They ceased all pre-orders and set up a waiting list. Even now with it being out for a while, they're continually out of stock. People must not like it so much where you are. o_o

I've never really been screwed, per se. But I have gotten pointless pre-order bonuses. Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time is a prime example of this. The bonus is a Sanzaru logo paraglider skin and a camo paraglider skin for Sly, and the Ultimate Murray costume for Murray. Normally that'd be pretty cool. Neat little bonus and all that fun.

...Except that those bonuses are hardly anything unique or difficult to obtain. You get the two paraglider skins by finding 5 and 10 hidden sly masks and you get the Ultimate Murray costume for finding 30 masks. By the time I'd gotten around to redeeming my bonus, I'd already earned those bonuses the long way. Talk about a let-down.
 

Karthesios

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Only problem I ever had was pre-ordering Borderlands 2's ultimate loot chest collector's edition. Turns out the problem was with Play'n'Trade, where I ordered it. Spent the months leading up to its release paying it down little by little ($150 over four months sounds cheap, but bear with me here...), to find out on release that the store wasn't allocated any units of the package.

I settled for the game by itself and fortunately got back the difference in price in the combination of store credit and cash I put in. I'll still buy from Play'n'Trade, but it's unlikely I'll ever pre-order anything from them again.