That's why some people are against a single payer plan.j0z said:You see, when a government takes control of the healthcare system, they can do stuff like this, because it is them paying for your medical bills, so they have the right to regulae activities they think might be "harmful" to the population. Government healthcare is such a slippery slope, and we Americans must stop this before it gets out of hand.
I probably just made a few enemies in these forums, but hey, we still have freedom of speech right? (well, at least until that is deemed hazardous to the public's health)
I didn't call it an epidemic! I said it was America's number one health risk. And that's a commonly cited fact. Google it, or better yet use a scholarly search engine, and you'll find plenty of professors of medicine who agree.Avashnea said:It ISN'T an epidemic. Actually, anyone that claims it is needs to see the movie Fat Head. It shows the facts behind the so called epidemic and WHY so many people are getting fatter. It also shows how Spurlock is nothing but a liar.Silva said:This isn't news. Obama has mentioned videogames on these terms in his speeches before.
And he's absolutely correct. Not that it isn't an obvious point. Of course this doesn't make him anti-videogames. Rather, he's pointing out that people are sacrificing outside time for videogame time, and that for children particularly this is dangerous to health as it creates bad habits.
It's his business because obesity is statistically America's number one health risk. And that's saying something, considering how serious a condition health is in over there.Knonsense said:What he says is probably true.
More importantly, however, why is this any of the president's business?
They also agree that saturated fat is bad and grains are good. Neither of those two beliefs are true either. Obesity is just a symptom of the TRUE health risks, blood sugar and other metabolic disorders CAUSED by the anti-fat/ pro-grain /non-science based diet that the government tells people to eat.Silva said:I didn't call it an epidemic! I said it was America's number one health risk. And that's a commonly cited fact. Google it, or better yet use a scholarly search engine, and you'll find plenty of professors of medicine who agree.Avashnea said:It ISN'T an epidemic. Actually, anyone that claims it is needs to see the movie Fat Head. It shows the facts behind the so called epidemic and WHY so many people are getting fatter. It also shows how Spurlock is nothing but a liar.Silva said:This isn't news. Obama has mentioned videogames on these terms in his speeches before.
And he's absolutely correct. Not that it isn't an obvious point. Of course this doesn't make him anti-videogames. Rather, he's pointing out that people are sacrificing outside time for videogame time, and that for children particularly this is dangerous to health as it creates bad habits.
It's his business because obesity is statistically America's number one health risk. And that's saying something, considering how serious a condition health is in over there.Knonsense said:What he says is probably true.
More importantly, however, why is this any of the president's business?
So you presume to know more than professors of medicine? Very well.Avashnea said:They also agree that saturated fat is bad and grains are good. Neither of those two beliefs are true either. Obesity is just a symptom of the TRUE health risks, blood sugar and other metabolic disorders CAUSED by the anti-fat/ pro-grain /non-science based diet that the government tells people to eat.Silva said:I didn't call it an epidemic! I said it was America's number one health risk. And that's a commonly cited fact. Google it, or better yet use a scholarly search engine, and you'll find plenty of professors of medicine who agree.Avashnea said:It ISN'T an epidemic. Actually, anyone that claims it is needs to see the movie Fat Head. It shows the facts behind the so called epidemic and WHY so many people are getting fatter. It also shows how Spurlock is nothing but a liar.Silva said:This isn't news. Obama has mentioned videogames on these terms in his speeches before.
And he's absolutely correct. Not that it isn't an obvious point. Of course this doesn't make him anti-videogames. Rather, he's pointing out that people are sacrificing outside time for videogame time, and that for children particularly this is dangerous to health as it creates bad habits.
It's his business because obesity is statistically America's number one health risk. And that's saying something, considering how serious a condition health is in over there.Knonsense said:What he says is probably true.
More importantly, however, why is this any of the president's business?
Not me, but a growing group of doctors and scientists. Saturated fat never was proven to be bad for health, but HAS been proven to be a vital nutrient for the body. All the lies about animal fats and tropical oils were made up of whole cloth by the vegetable oil producers, who wanted to sell their unhealthy oils, which are linked to cancer.Silva said:So you presume to know more than professors of medicine? Very well.Avashnea said:They also agree that saturated fat is bad and grains are good. Neither of those two beliefs are true either. Obesity is just a symptom of the TRUE health risks, blood sugar and other metabolic disorders CAUSED by the anti-fat/ pro-grain /non-science based diet that the government tells people to eat.Silva said:I didn't call it an epidemic! I said it was America's number one health risk. And that's a commonly cited fact. Google it, or better yet use a scholarly search engine, and you'll find plenty of professors of medicine who agree.Avashnea said:It ISN'T an epidemic. Actually, anyone that claims it is needs to see the movie Fat Head. It shows the facts behind the so called epidemic and WHY so many people are getting fatter. It also shows how Spurlock is nothing but a liar.Silva said:This isn't news. Obama has mentioned videogames on these terms in his speeches before.
And he's absolutely correct. Not that it isn't an obvious point. Of course this doesn't make him anti-videogames. Rather, he's pointing out that people are sacrificing outside time for videogame time, and that for children particularly this is dangerous to health as it creates bad habits.
It's his business because obesity is statistically America's number one health risk. And that's saying something, considering how serious a condition health is in over there.Knonsense said:What he says is probably true.
More importantly, however, why is this any of the president's business?
But I see your argument as fairly semantical in basis. Whether or not obesity is a "symptom" (I would argue that it obviously causes problems itself), the reasons for it are still risks for themselves. Mass obesity, if nothing else, gives us a (big) clue to such problems. And as such, if obesity disappeared then the causes would have to have. However, I would argue that the sedentary lifestyle of most Americans contributes just as much as diet.
On the diet front itself, I would say that you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who agrees that saturated fat is desirable in any diet. If you want to eat McDonald's and call it healthy, go ahead. But I'm still not going there. On the other hand, too many grains is indeed also fattening. The real imbalance in the typical Western diet is a bias against vegetables and fruit, or so I would think.
Finally, where does the US government "tell people to eat" such a diet? Sounds like hearsay to me.
It has NOTHING to do with him being black. It has EVERYTHING to do with him being incompetent and destroying the country.Gormourn said:And in any case, the guy is just trying to look good in front of everyone - and I can understand that, he's the first fucking black president, if he fails, the media won't quit biting his ass for a long time.