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The Random One

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Well, it does sound good. It's trying to reach a commitment between 'let's just make another shooter' and 'let's try to do something weird that a few critics will love and no one will play'. It's all in the making though.

THQ is puzzlingly one of my favourite publishers so I'll be on the lookout for this one.

Zhukov said:
Any game that tries that hard to put Americans in the position of underdogs will get nothing but scorn from me.

Well me too but it's a hilarious kind of scorn. Like, 'oh wow really?' Then I play anyway.

I find the way most Americans think their country is the hottest thing in the world to be very amusing.

Danny Ocean said:
Should've made it a Canadian Mountie Invasion of the USA. At least that's a bit more plausible. =P
Hey, don't diss the Mounties. They're the FBI and the Marines rolled into one. In Canada. You tried being the Marines in a country that's mostly frozen wasteland? Didn't think so.
 

Aphroditty

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Nikolaz72 said:
America has 200.000 Up to date and highly trained troops.. The rest has pretty much just gotten through bootcamp and earned a little clap on the behind. I know that might be undercutting it a bit but with the way that SOME private companies earn a lot on weapons and therefor ínvest a lot of money in private research probably results in more effective weapons pretty fast. Keeping millions of soldiers equiped with that is pretty expensive. Also when you take into consideration that the US is in a /pretty big/ debt to China and probably also owes a bit to others. They just cant afford the advanced equipment you speak. Which is why they limitt the troops with that kind og gear to a couple of hundred thousand while giving the rest your standard weaponry that other country's even the quite poor ones could easily attain. I mean in Iraq you have heard of US Soldiers dropping their own gun for the Insurgent weapons (And thats ment as, theirs are sometimes even better) Which means that Standard Issue equipment in US is pretty much the standard issue equipment of everyone else. And the training of standard US troops, while high. Does still not make them into supersoldeiers.
America's weaponry (missiles, aircraft, vehicles, etc.) is currently, overall, the most technologically advanced in the world, so I don't know what you were going on about the States not being able to afford to make technologically advanced equipment--the US already has, even if there's been no persuasive reason for it to issue it to every GI. The F-22, for example, is a crazy-advanced (though fragile) fighter jet, but production on it was ceased because it was too advanced--there was no threat sufficient for it, so spending that money was pointless. Moving from there, the US debt to China would not affect its ability to defend itself for a few reasons, most noticeably the fact that if it came down to it the US could cancel its debt to China, or stop funding Social Security, welfare, and education, and start making weapons (all of which can be produced within US borders).

Secondly, I would seriously dispute your unsourced claim that America's military forces have only 200,000 troops who would be able to participate in combat. Consider the fact that ~200,000 American forces have been in Iraq since 2003, ~30,000 in Afghanistan in 2001, both of which are combat zones. This completely discounts combat-ready troops in South Korea and on the high seas. Certainly, American does not have 2 million soldiers ready and armed to fight right now--that's a logistical impossibility for any country. NK doesn't have 9 million troops ready to go to combat, for instance. There are significant reserves of materiel, however, and it has the potential to mobilize that number since, as I mentioned, in a time of national emergency the USA's ability to equip its soldiers would meet that minimum level.

And, as a matter of fact, I haven't heard of American troops in Iraq dropping their weapons for insurgent weaponry. Presumably there are many reasons for that, and I certainly wouldn't deny that, in terms of firearms, the US is more advanced; a gun is a gun is a gun, at some point. In most other ways, however, such as battlefield intelligence, personal body armor, camouflage, gun sights, the US combat trooper's equipment is far beyond a North Korean's, much less an insurgent's. Facing an aggressor (contemporary NK troops) from a strong defensive position (which the US would have if NK invaded) then it would be somewhat pathetic for NK to have a go.

Now, give it a half a century, we can talk then, but it's really difficult, if not impossible, to imagine things changing so fast that NK becomes a credible threat within twenty years.
 

Altar

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Ok, I know this is apparently in a not so distant future where America is well... in a horrible state... and apparently North Korea... (or would it be the whole of Korea?) but one thing I wanna know is, America's allies where are they and what are they doing? Are they in a bad state they can't help... or have the just gone screw it... we can't be bothered helping... anyways... stuff...
 

Awexsome

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North Korea invades the U.S... well... they're gonna have a lot of explaining to do about what the hell happened between the present day and the year this takes place in. From the idea of "massive economic collapse" for the U.S. and thereby ignoring NK to take care of itself as it conquers or makes friends with the countries of Asia... Implausible... but I wouldn't call impossible yet...

If the future scenario were Palin gets elected in 2012 then I could probably believe how the U.S. would go all to shit.

I mean if a unified Korea could possibly convince China that the U.S. was no longer a paying back investment... China could totally screw over the U.S. economy if it collapsed by refusing the kinds of loans we're getting now.

Basically, implausible... but so is the plot to Halo and I love that one.
 

Cyberjester

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Nolanp01 said:
This storyline is hilarious at best, what about the US Navy? There's no way Korea could invade the US, I mean seriously, are they completely out of ideas?

Now a Russian-Sino coalition, in which Korea is part of, could invade the US. That is likely. But not Korea, by gods no.
In this game, it looks like Korea has China.

Sheer numbers dude. :p


pumuckl said:
Danny Ocean said:
Steve Butts said:
THQ's upcoming shooter puts players in the boots of an American guerilla, fighting in the resistance movement against a successful North Korean invasion of the United States.

Aaaahahahahahahaahahahahahahahhahahaha

*gasp*

Aaahahahahahaah

Seriously. I just read this out to my family in the living room. Everyone burst out laughing, even the dog. Just this ridiculous premise on its own has put me off. I know it's just a game, but come on.

Should've made it a Canadian Mountie Invasion of the USA. At least that's a bit more plausible. =P
with chinese and russian backing that is incredibly possible actualy...

OT: i think the premise of the game is awesome, america is not unconquerable, in fact we'd be rather squishy if sumone gets on our soil
Not really.. You seen the weaponry their cooking up? They ditched a heap of it, "too expensive" even though it was mostly complete. -.- But the grenade system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM25
That would give their soldier such a big advantage that numbers would count for a lot less. Especially in an urban warfare setting. Plus if you count every citizen who has a gun, they have the largest standing militia in the world. And I don't mean, "Oh look, I have a pistol made 50 years ago :D", they have some decent munitions available to the average home owner.



Brains splattering on the window from an execution and a crying baby who watches his parents gunned down on the street corner are just two of the purely visceral, button-pushing moments that game presents. While it may be accurate, there's no real story context for it, and it seems designed just to make the bad guys so bad that the good guys seem like angels by comparison.
There is a point to that. You could say "Hey look, you're a super soldier and parachuted in from Eu. Now go kick butt". Or you can make them an average citizen, show their home under attack, then throw them in the fight. The first way, which it seems you would prefer? Is.. Well boring really. The second way is designed to have an emotion impact on the player and story wise, it sounds like it suits it perfectly. Bearing in mind I haven't played the game so only going on what you said.
 

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Danny Ocean said:
Steve Butts said:
THQ's upcoming shooter puts players in the boots of an American guerilla, fighting in the resistance movement against a successful North Korean invasion of the United States.

Aaaahahahahahahaahahahahahahahhahahaha

*gasp*

Aaahahahahahaah

Seriously. I just read this out to my family in the living room. Everyone burst out laughing, even the dog. Just this ridiculous premise on its own has put me off. I know it's just a game, but come on.

Should've made it a Canadian Mountie Invasion of the USA. At least that's a bit more plausible. =P
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