Protagonists you just can't stand.

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-deep breath- Hokay, I'm gonna be a bad guy here and say that I've tried several times to watch Dr. Who and I can't because of his Companions. I can't STAND his Companions and I can't even explain why.

Also Anakin Skywalker before he became awesome Darth Vader. ALL HE DOES IS WHINE. Seriously. He's just so... SHALLOW. I don't know why it would've been a good idea to make him such a wuss but it wasn't well-done.

Other people include:
Ichigo Kurosaki - Bleach
Bella - Twilight
Iron Man
Haruhi Suzumiya - if she counts
MLP: FiM in general. I don't care if they're protagonists, antagonists, side characters or the background. I can't STAND that show anymore. I've had enough.
Cynder - Legend of Spyro series post game one (Eternal Night, Dawn of the Dragon)
House - House
Shilo(h?) - Repo! The Genetic Opera

And just about any protagonist played by Ben Stiller
 

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Most Final Fantasy protagonists.

Six's Terra is alright.

See? They just can't write a main character 90% of the time. It's so... annoying. Everything about it.
Whoa six didn't just have one protagonist. Personally Locke was my main character and is fairly integral to the plot. Many of the characters were developed enough and important to the narrative to be leads. This is why FF6 remains my all time favorite Final Fantasy.

I couldn't stand Tidus in FFX.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
OP: God I hate Ash from Pokemon. Going 'round the world making friends with wildlife. Catch those motherfuckers Ash, don't you know the premise of your own damn show?
Omigod... I don't hate Ash but this does seem to be a little strange to me.

It's like, truth is he could do both. With all the damn friends he makes with the Pokemon, I don't see why he couldn't take them with him. Hell, that's how he got all his first Pokemon in the very first season save for Pigeoto. He made nice, asked if they wanted to come along and that was that.

He could have done that with SO many. My biggest beef is with that Houndour pack in Johto Journeys. He made some nice bonds with that pack when he and his friends helped get one of the ones to the Pokemon center. When they left, the entire back including the formerly sick one saw them off. Which I thought was precious. But seriously, He could have taken at least one. One of them probably wouldn't have minded staying with him but that never occurred to him at all.

Very silly
 

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Batman. To give you an idea, the last version of Batman that I liked was from the 90's era animated series. It was a balanced, nuanced take on the character - smart, tough, and dangerous, but still quite beatable and prone to making the occasional mistake. It captured the enjoyable parts of the character and left the "I'M THE !@#$%%^&$ BATMAN!" stupidity in the trash bin where it belonged. We've had too much Batman, and he doesn't need to be the most special of all the special kids anymore.
 

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Raiden the most whinny a** character I've ever encountered and they just won't stop putting him out there I don't care, kit him up, sew his mouth shut, Raiden just needs to die for the sake of the series kill him permanently!

Conner I don't hate him with such burning passion as the moron above but he's bad a bi-polar hero who sways between brick and timebomb he was very unappealing.

Shinji like Raiden he's a cry baby and really he was upstaged by Rei who could actually do the job with less crying heck she even blows herself up to stop an angel rather then let it continue destroying the city.
 

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Drake Barrow said:
Batman. To give you an idea, the last version of Batman that I liked was from the 90's era animated series. It was a balanced, nuanced take on the character - smart, tough, and dangerous, but still quite beatable and prone to making the occasional mistake. It captured the enjoyable parts of the character and left the "I'M THE !@#$%%^&$ BATMAN!" stupidity in the trash bin where it belonged. We've had too much Batman, and he doesn't need to be the most special of all the special kids anymore.
I'm not sure what you're referring to then since most incarnations post animated series are infact like that.
If you enjoyed the animated series you should probably try Arkham. They have a pretty great Batman, especially Arkham Origins.
 

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Dante from the DmC Reboot. It takes some serious effort to reinvent a character and end up making him more of a douchebag than the original was.

Kratos from God of War. Talk about antisocial. There's grieving for those lost, and then there's continuously murdering innocent people.

Patrokolos and Phyrra from Soul Calibur V. What a despicable little runt, dispensing justice (i.e. murder) to those he so much as suspects of being Malfested. Sure he gets a LITTLE better, but by that point, why would you be rooting for this scum bag? On the opposite side of the coin, Phyrra, what a simpering, wimpy child. I can only imagine how her mother would be taking this; Her son is an impulsive murderer and her daughter is a weakling. The two who were supposed to take up her duties and fight evil... end up being a far cry of her wishes.

Serah Farron from Final Fantasy XIII (and XIII-2). I like Lightning. I'll straight up admit it. She might not have the greatest character personality or progression in Final Fantasy, but I like her. Her sister on the other hand, drives me insane. I don't know how Serah managed to usurp the story away from her older sister, but it was an action undeserved.

Vaan and Penelo from Final Fantasy XII. If ever there were characters with no sense of actual presence or place in the story. While Vaan might act as the Player Proxy, Penelo serves all but no purpose save as the "Main Character's" love interest. You could effectively cut her from the party and suffer no loss of story.
 

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Black Widow from the movies. Had to make that specification because I have no idea what she's like in the comics.
Anyway.
I know she's supposed to be professional but she seems so cocky in her abilities, I absolutely can't stand her.
Wait, you think Black Widow is too cocky but you don't mention Iron Man? The very personification of cockiness and arrogance? (I totally love him for it by the way, not trying to say Iron Man's a bad character or anything.) Huh. That's... I mean, it's your opinion and all but... *confused* :p

OT: Cheap shot, but Sansa Stark in the ASOIAF books (haven't watched the series yet), especially the first one. My god, talk about pathetic and naive >.<
I should have figured Iron Man was going to come up.
When Tony Stark acts cocky and arrogant, it kind of feels like he *knows* it, like he's having fun with it, if that makes any sense. And at least he's funny, Black Widow's kind of humorless.
 

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Kratos. Unlikable, unsympathetic, revenge-fuelled badass turned to mass-murdering prick, there is no fucking way, no matter how tragic your backstory or how many times you've been betrayed, that you would act like Kratos. At this stage he is a vehicle for action, nothing more.
 

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white_wolf said:
Conner I don't hate him with such burning passion as the moron above but he's bad a bi-polar hero who sways between brick and timebomb he was very unappealing.
I don't get what's wrong with him being stoic. Do character have to constantly talk and chatter for them to be considered good? when Connor didn't talk his actions made up for his lack of words, He's naive, he's stubborn, he's thrown from a black and white world to a one with all gray instead. The way he grows as a character and becomes wiser, the way the character had developed by the end was just great.
 

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I hated Meursault in Albert Camus's (Camus'?) existentialist novel The Stranger. The guy lacks empathy and self-awareness. The only people he socializes with are his girlfriend (who he treats with indifference) and a pimp (who is violent to his own girlfriend). Meursault shoots a Middle Eastern man for no good reason, and is nearly deliberately obtuse when questioned (both by authorities and his "friends") why. Seriously, I might have been missing something, but yeah. Total dick.
I'm with you on that. It annoyed me that Camus was trying to play up Meursault as some enlightened, shining example of a man, when everything about just seemed repulsive. I chose to read that book more as a cautionary tale about the danger of becoming detached and aloof to the world around, rather than some manifesto for Camus ludicrous beliefs.

My personal choice, however, would be Joel from The Last of Us. He's nothing but a brutish, selfish thug who couldn't give a damn about anyone else so long as he gets the thing that makes him happy. Gosh, I hated how that game ended.
 

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Hmmm... About 50%... Of all protagonists ever.

Hell, in most cases, even those that I don't hate I'm neutral with. Most shows/games I enjoy I do so because of the supporting/episodic characters.
 

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Luke Fon Fucking Fabre. Okay so I love Tales of the Abyss and all the Tales of... series games and I have 100%ed ToA a total of 8 times.
This whiny, vindictive, self-centered man-child should be purged. I realize why he's such a massive douche (he's technically 7 years old) but that does not excuse blowing up an entire city full of people and then refusing to take responsibility of any sort for your own actions. He also whines constantly, about everything. Literally everything. Hell he snaps at a character who was introduced as frail for failing to keep up as they CLIMB A GODDAMN MOUNTAIN and then calls said character useless. The most unforgivable thing though is that he gets alright for a while, he has this whole soul searching episode and then isn't a total dick anymore and then he becomes a whiny self-centered cry baby with an inferiority complex and just goes on for fucking ever about not having a purpose. Luckily he goes back to being cool at the end and I can "almost" forgive him.
 

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Silverbeard said:
Oooh, this thread! Finally!

Does anyone remember the protagonist (name is up to the player) from Front mission 3? This nutter is a thorough nat, a twit and a moron with no sense of moral fortitude, common sense or even basic arithmetic.
You mean KAZUKI? What you're describing there is the "Kazuki tactic" as I kept calling it when I played it. During the game he would basically rush the enemies head on no matter what! I mean it's not like the other characters were complete morons and they kept calling him on it every time but somehow they didn't just kill him or even tried to stop him. Geesh! Kazuki was a class A+ moron, lol. (I really liked the supporting cast of both paths though.)
 

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Patrokolos and Phyrra from Soul Calibur V. What a despicable little runt, dispensing justice (i.e. murder) to those he so much as suspects of being Malfested. Sure he gets a LITTLE better, but by that point, why would you be rooting for this scum bag? On the opposite side of the coin, Phyrra, what a simpering, wimpy child. I can only imagine how her mother would be taking this; Her son is an impulsive murderer and her daughter is a weakling. The two who were supposed to take up her duties and fight evil... end up being a far cry of her wishes.
While Patrokolos has no excuse for his screwups or his actions, Phyrra Does. She was kidnapped at the age of like, 3 or 4 but TIRA of all crazy psychos, and essentially brainwashed to forget her family, and told they didn't want her. As she grew up, Tira kept tight watch on her, killing anyone that got close to her, making sure she lived miserably, and never made progress on making her life better, all for the purpose of making her a broken, Hating husk of a being to play the role of perfect host to her master Soul Edge. Plus, Phyrra and Patrokolos were touched by Soul Edge's energy in the womb due to Sophitia being partially malfested herself after the first game.

Honestly SCV's story in general had so much more planned, for Everyone, even those two that never saw the light of day because some asshole at Namco rushed it, cut funding, etc etc just to get it out a broken, sobbing, wreck of what it could've been.
 

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Schtimpy said:
When I played Final Fantasy XII, I always thought of Basch as the main character, what with the story relevance and such. Whenever I went to town, I just thought the "Vaans the only controllable character" thing was just Vaan being sent to buy supplies because the others had better stuff to do.
Man, that would have made the game so much better if I had thought of that. Vaan as Basch's squire. Hilarious.

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Adam Jensen from Deus Ex: HR.

But that's only because of his voice. Everyone around him sounds fine (except for that one awful racial stereotype - you know the one), but he sounds like a car engine trying desperately to make a coherent sound. It completely destroys immersion to hear a dude who sounds like he's got level 30 throat cancer.
Sadly for the voice actor, that is exactly how he sounds (at least with the audio quality in the games).


OT: I'm very tolerant of characters that offend me or are far from admirable(whether intended or not), so it takes something special to throw me off them altogether. I'm struggling really hard to think of one who I truly can't stand. Even characters who I'm put off by at first I can warm up to. Say a writer mishandles a plot line (particularly romance) and makes the protagonist look like an irredeemable creep, I can easily look past that (so long as the romance levels out as to take away emphasis from the creepiness). Or say a Video game characters personality conflicts with the players experience (Nathan Drake), I can reconcile that as a disconnect between the narrative and the game design (which is bad in itself).

But protagonists I loath. That's difficult, because generally the only thing that makes me loath something (in fiction) is boredom. If a character bores the hole off of me that's enough for me to throw my hands up and quit. However doing so makes me forget them rather fast. I can't think of much off hand.

Vaan from FF12 is definitely one of them, but because of the rest of the cast the game was still enjoyable.

I suppose, in recent memory, the character that bored me the most (and therefore I hated) was Kazuma from s-Cry-ed. I can't even remember why since I tuned off the anime about 6 episodes in (you can't say I didn't try). Perhaps it was the highly formulaic narrative plonked on top of an utterly derivative bad boy stereotype (Kazuma), wrapped in an ever escalating "power creep" narrative comprised of cookie cutter antagonists and equally boring ass supporting casts. Now that I think of it, perhaps I didn't hate Kazuma, I just headed the whole show.

Now that I think of it, I hate Tetsuo from Akira, but only because to top off a horrible sub plot of a young girl being the entire movies punching bag (Kaori), at the very end he squashes her in his grotesque transformation (being squashed is one my worst nightmares thanks to that scene). Yeah, fuck you Tetsuo and whoever wrote that sub plot...

Still like the movie though.

Even though I'm often highly critical of things, I have incredibly broad tastes and high tolerance for "garbage" elements (by my closest friends standards anyway). I chalk that up to having a tremendous knack for suspending my own disbelief, even if the writer, director or designer seems to actively try to subvert that.
 

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The car engine voice, I always thought it was to reflect the way he lost himself on that operating table. Atleast it matches with my interpretation of Jensen, which is either psychotic or loathful of augs at first and then receptive to them. :p
 

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http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121106233053/ub10fanfiction/pt-br/images/0/04/Tumblr_m0o2z4SBHW1qgssuio1_500.jpg

"Issei Hyoudou" is the sicko's name. He's from an animé called "Highschool DxD"; something else I very much despise. Realistically, he should have been met with massive criminal charges in no time at all, but that would get in the way of the fanbase's deplorable fantasies. He cares about nothing but curvy female figures. That's seriously his only motivation for anything and everything he does. I'm not making this up. His signature move is even disintegrating girls' clothes right off their backs. He even goes out groping his classmates on a regular basis. He's got sex on the brain so bad that he even seems to make actual sex offenders look tame in comparison. Oh, and of course there's that Gary-Stew power of his from that dragon arm thing that has absolutely no given limit. Just boost, boost, boost an infinite amount of times.


http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120907080633/swordartonline/images/2/20/Kirito.png

Not as much of a sex offender (though he certainly isn't faithful to his own wai- I mean, "girlfriend"). This is just wish fulfillment cranked up to eleven.
Zontar said:
A clasic case of the wish fufilment character, that particular Marty Sue is the strongest person in the game the characters are trapped in because... well to be quite honest they never even try to explain it in adiquet detail. Hell, given the logic of how an MMO runs, he would be one of the weakest players since he did all of 2 missions with other people in 2 years, and soloing in an MMO is the slow way to level up. I could go on listing things I dislike about the character, like the Deus Ex he pulls every battle, but I think you get the point.
Along with what the original post mentioned, he can hack the game while inside the game (without even needing a mouse or monitor), he was building machines at the age of six, he's got the best reflexes out of everyone in the entire game, he gains admin powers for no reason, along with a slew-ton of other item drops, skills, and other various things that are just handed to him on a silver platter with absolutely no effort on his part, he pals around with the guy who murdered thousands of people and regards him as a hero... There is just nothing to like about this guy. Neither of these guys, actually.
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Elfgore said:
My most hated protagonist of all time. Ichika from Infinite Stratos. He is the most dense person, no. The most dense thing that exists on earth. Seven girls have feelings for him, and at several times making it painfully obvious. Every time he just goes "huh?" and gets a dumb look on his face. This picture describes the show perfectly.


Edit: Picture should be fixed.
That's exactly why I like the guy so much! He's the total opposite of Issei! He actually shows respect and restraint! He treats all his friends well and does not take advantage of the rather "favorable" position he's in.

Also, he's Japanese, so it would make sense that he can't read Cecelia's shirt.
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Kajin said:
Kirito's being OP is sort of justified in that he managed to get a good head start as a beta tester, being solo so he doesn't have to split any loot or gold, and the fact that he pretty much grinds the toughest monsters he can nonstop to compensate for not working with a team. There's also the fact that SAO relies more on your actual combat ability and your reflexes than a traditional MMO and Kirito is stated as having the fastest reflexes of anyone in the game. I also hear that he's a lot more tolerable in the books than the anime because the anime cuts out the entirety of the internal dialogue he has going which supposedly makes him funnier I guess?. But yeah, there are better anime heroes out there than Kirito.
Seracen said:
I don't really understand all the Kirito hatred. The arguments against SWO's protagonist are valid, but only if one is willing to damn practically every protagonist in more than half the anime and visual novels out today.
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Redlin5 said:
Whenever Serena was on the screen and not the awesome Sailor Scouts I tended to wander off looking for my cat.

Now I can't believe how much of that character I remember... The nauseating voice, the vapid, ditzy nature of every decision...
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King Aragorn said:
Drake Barrow said:
Batman. To give you an idea, the last version of Batman that I liked was from the 90's era animated series. It was a balanced, nuanced take on the character - smart, tough, and dangerous, but still quite beatable and prone to making the occasional mistake. It captured the enjoyable parts of the character and left the "I'M THE !@#$%%^&$ BATMAN!" stupidity in the trash bin where it belonged. We've had too much Batman, and he doesn't need to be the most special of all the special kids anymore.
I'm not sure what you're referring to then since most incarnations post animated series are infact like that.
If you enjoyed the animated series you should probably try Arkham. They have a pretty great Batman, especially Arkham Origins.
Yes, Arkham Origins, the Batman incarnation who beat up Deathstroke the Terminator in a fist fight... as a rookie. Well played sir. This was a classic case of God-Bat. Deathstroke is faster, stronger, quicker thinking, and A BETTER FIGHTER, than Bruce Wayne's normal human body can deal with. Animated series Batman was fantastic, Arkham City/Asylum was great, and his current Justice League incarnation is solid. Arkham Origins... just another $&#^#@*# Batman.
 

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Tanthius said:
King Aragorn said:
Drake Barrow said:
Batman. To give you an idea, the last version of Batman that I liked was from the 90's era animated series. It was a balanced, nuanced take on the character - smart, tough, and dangerous, but still quite beatable and prone to making the occasional mistake. It captured the enjoyable parts of the character and left the "I'M THE !@#$%%^&$ BATMAN!" stupidity in the trash bin where it belonged. We've had too much Batman, and he doesn't need to be the most special of all the special kids anymore.
I'm not sure what you're referring to then since most incarnations post animated series are infact like that.
If you enjoyed the animated series you should probably try Arkham. They have a pretty great Batman, especially Arkham Origins.
Yes, Arkham Origins, the Batman incarnation who beat up Deathstroke the Terminator in a fist fight... as a rookie. Well played sir. This was a classic case of God-Bat. Deathstroke is faster, stronger, quicker thinking, and A BETTER FIGHTER, than Bruce Wayne's normal human body can deal with. Animated series Batman was fantastic, Arkham City/Asylum was great, and his current Justice League incarnation is solid. Arkham Origins... just another $&#^#@*# Batman.
Minus how seriously nerfed Deathstroke was and how terribly insignificant his role was *kick ass boss fight though* the way Batman evolved and was great, the way the game focused on the relationships between his gallery and his allies instead of another Year One tale was something I really enjoyed, and that stuff with The Joker is Killing Joke level stuff. Minus that nonsensical stuff with Deathstroke, it was a great incarnation of the Caped Crusader.