PS3: Is it worth the money?

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LethalBargi

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Jester Lord said:
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LethalBargi said:
The PS3 has a good future but i don't think its worth the money know, since we are in a economic crisis maybe the price will go down and you can buy it cheaper than the current price.
but one thing i hate about PS3 is that its not backwards compatible.
Wait...what?
Not backwards compatible?
Are the 80 GB still backwards compatible?
No, i was looking at the 80gb console and it no longer has 4 USB ports, it's gone down to 2, no memory card reader, doesn't come with an ethernet cable, and is no longer backwards compatible. Luckily, none of that stuff really bothers me, although not being able to play Ratchet and Clank: Locked and Loaded is a shame.
Thats fucked up! Why did Sony do this?
What if i have to get a new system (again)? Now im angry.
to trick ppl into buying it, and to up its game profit since ppl still play ps2 games alot more
 

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Remleiz said:
And if you have a PSP as well, you have the interactivity between the two as well which is pretty cool
don't forget remote play, if you have ps3, and any..i mean ANY wireless location on the planet, you have PS3portable. you can turn on your ps3 remotely from anywhere in the world, access movies, images music, and even play some ps3 games on you PSP..... anywhere!. if you have your pc on and set as a media server you can then transfer files from pc to ps3 to psp remotely. i don't even keep media on the psp now just watch it all from the ps3.

so yeah it's hella worth it.

this is Sony most poorly marketed feature, i mean damn who doesn't want a ps3portable.

as for games, the xbox and ps3 have their own strengths and weakness, but where the ps3 shines is it has a relatively solid internet browser (not perfect by any means though), media capabilities and a bluray play included. all those claiming Xbox live is mountains over PSN this is a fallacy but PSN does need to up things a bit, but it is rock solid online when playing games (addition features are needed ) but PSN users can argue its free.
 

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I would say, no, unless you really really want Blu-Ray.

The PS3 exclusives aren't all that interesting, there are more 360 exclusives.

Most games that come out on both consoles look and play better on the 360 as per reviews for said games.

Its still too expensive and its online setup is still sub-par compared to Live.

I don't see a reason to buy one.
 

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Indigo_Dingo said:
Oh, leave him be. He's one of those people who think Devil May Cry invented the genre, and thus any game in said genre is a ripoff.
I actually sold my Xbox 360 and it's games. Got the idea 3 days ago, and now I have enough money.
Guess what motivated me probably the most? Yup, God. Of War. III.

And I don't get the idiotic "No HDTV, no PS3!".
The PS3 looks as fine on a non-HDTV as the 360, and plus it has loads of exclusives coming in 2009.
What does Xbox 360 have in 2009?
Mass Effect 2 and Alan Wake?
 

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It isn't obvious? He's a DMC fanboy who got a 360 and now has insane jealousy. Seriously though God of war is far better than DMC in that all the fights are controlled by the player,
Well I'm seeing the insane jealousy anywhere, considering I will gladly admit that the PS3 is better than the Xbox at times. It's more reliable, it has a much more promising game lineup for the coming year and fighting games are just plain better on the PS3.
But that's not what really has me confused.
God of war is far better than DMC in that all the fights are controlled by the player,
What? Is this crazy new invention called a cut scene new to you? Because they have been in all the God of War games. There are even some with fights in them, that guess what. You can't play!

Sketchy said:
And why don't you like God of War? It's a fun game.
I really don't know; whenever I play it, I just don't find myself having fun. It seems like too much of a chore.
 

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i recently forked out for a ps3 after having a 360 for around 2 years and even replacing the premium with an elite once it broke on me a week after the warranty ran out and i still have both the PS3 and the 360 sat next to each other. Id definatly say get one. The exclusives are great (MGS4, Rachet and Clank, Uncharted, LBP.....) and its mainly why i bought it now. the games libary is growing to be something Ok. Nowhere near as good as the 360's in my opinion but theres always killzone 2 :p just make sure you have a HDTV and remember to buy another HDMI cable because it doesnt come with one in the box. easily one of the best £300 i spent and considering an elite costs almost that much nowadays anyways its not like it THAT much more expensive than a 360.
 

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I've had a PS3 for quite a while now. I don't regret buying it but to save money i'd wait if i was you until theres a price drop. Sony PR keeps saying there won't be one for a while but anyone who believes them has no common sense.
 

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spyrewolf said:
Remleiz said:
And if you have a PSP as well, you have the interactivity between the two as well which is pretty cool
don't forget remote play, if you have ps3, and any..i mean ANY wireless location on the planet, you have PS3portable. you can turn on your ps3 remotely from anywhere in the world, access movies, images music, and even play some ps3 games on you PSP..... anywhere!. if you have your pc on and set as a media server you can then transfer files from pc to ps3 to psp remotely. i don't even keep media on the psp now just watch it all from the ps3.

this is Sony most poorly marketed feature, i mean damn who doesn't want a ps3portable.
I know it's crazy to suggest it, especially in this economic clime, but I think Sony could have a pretty compelling bundle if they packaged together both the PSP and the PS3, and had the setup emphasize the connectivity between the two. Price it about $500, and sell it exclusively at Sony Style stores, and it would probably appeal to a certain demographic, namely people with way too much money and not enough time.

The other product they could do, which would have more mass market appeal, is a consolized version of the PSP. Once you take out the display and the UMD drive, the only additional engineering you need, besides the packaging, is to add support for an offboard controller, and I think they could easily bring such a product in at $130 price point.
 

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bkd69 said:
The other product they could do, which would have more mass market appeal, is a consolized version of the PSP. Once you take out the display and the UMD drive, the only additional engineering you need, besides the packaging, is to add support for an offboard controller, and I think they could easily bring such a product in at $130 price point.
So this thing?

http://www.ebgames.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=62183
 

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shatnershaman said:
bkd69 said:
The other product they could do, which would have more mass market appeal, is a consolized version of the PSP. Once you take out the display and the UMD drive, the only additional engineering you need, besides the packaging, is to add support for an offboard controller, and I think they could easily bring such a product in at $130 price point.
So this thing?

http://www.ebgames.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=62183
Awesome!
When did Sony add a podcast receiver and MP3 support to the PS2? And where do I get it?
 

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bkd69 said:
shatnershaman said:
bkd69 said:
The other product they could do, which would have more mass market appeal, is a consolized version of the PSP. Once you take out the display and the UMD drive, the only additional engineering you need, besides the packaging, is to add support for an offboard controller, and I think they could easily bring such a product in at $130 price point.
So this thing?

http://www.ebgames.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=62183
Awesome!
When did Sony add a podcast receiver and MP3 support to the PS2? And where do I get it?
Sorry you'll have to sacrifice that for better graphics, games, and a second nubby.
 

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shatnershaman said:
bkd69 said:
shatnershaman said:
bkd69 said:
The other product they could do, which would have more mass market appeal, is a consolized version of the PSP. Once you take out the display and the UMD drive, the only additional engineering you need, besides the packaging, is to add support for an offboard controller, and I think they could easily bring such a product in at $130 price point.
So this thing?

http://www.ebgames.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=62183
Awesome!
When did Sony add a podcast receiver and MP3 support to the PS2? And where do I get it?
Sorry you'll have to sacrifice that for better graphics, games, and a second nubby.
So what you're saying then is that it's really nothing at all like a PSP, then yes?
 

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I'm thinking of buying a PS1. I hate consoles, but I have some good polygonal memories from the 90s I'd like to relive. What's the going price for an old Playstation these days?
 

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bkd69 said:
So what you're saying then is that it's really nothing at all like a PSP, then yes?
No, it does have many of the same games and most of the features (with extras of its own like DVD and good controls) like the PSPconsole you describe which really does confuse me since the point of the Playstation Portable is the Portable part.

EDIT: Too bad you can't get a PS2 controller with a mini usb so that you could get best of both words.
 

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shatnershaman said:
bkd69 said:
So what you're saying then is that it's really nothing at all like a PSP, then yes?
No, it does have many of the same games and most of the features (with extras of its own like DVD and good controls) like the PSPconsole you describe which really does confuse me since the point of the Playstation Portable is the Portable part.

EDIT: Too bad you can't get a PS2 controller with a mini usb so that you could get best of both words.
Here's what the PSP offers that the PS2 doesn't:

MP3/AAC support
MP4 support
Shoutcast support
Podcast support (both streaming and download/store)
Location Free playback
PS3 Remote Play
HD Video
Industry semi-standard/semi-proprietary removable flash memory up to 16Gb
PSN store support
Skype

The PSP and PS2 both offer network connectivity, though the PSP uses WiFi, and the PS2 offers dialup as well as wired ethernet. And, as you noted, the PS2 offers DVD support as well.

Now, what a consolized PSP becomes is an HD networked media center with access to the PSN store, and since the only additional engineering that would be needed would be to change the control support from builtin to offboard (which, for economy, should just be adding support for a DS3 controller). I'm pretty sure Sony could bring that in at a price point of $130, especially after you've removed the parts and assembly costs for the UMD drive and the screen. Note that this is 33% of the price of a PS3, and 65% of the price of the 360 Arcade. Even if the reengineering costs bounce it higher, say up to $150-$175, that's still pretty compelling, and that may be the point at which they could possibly add Bluetooth support, for example, but that would price pretty directly in competition with the 360 Arcade, whereas a $130 price really makes it something of a no brainer, as far as a secondary console or a streaming media player purchase goes.

Now, could the PS2 firmware be upgraded to support at least some of those features? Certainly. All of them? Maybe. But I have no idea what the cost would be, or how that would compare with cost of designing a console package for the PSP, and the reengineering to support offboard controls. It does have the advantage of having a highly matured hardware platform, which means the parts and assembly costs are already well amortized, and the software side is well known. The only question at that point is whether the hardware is up to supporting the software features, and reengineering the hradware for memory stick support.

So here's the cost/benefit analysis between the two platforms:

PSP:
Minimal software modification, significant packaging redesign, modest circuitry engineering

PS2:
Significant software revamp, trivial package redesign, modest circuitry redesign, and a question as to whether the hardware can support the same featureset
 

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I think it's worth it, my PS3 hasn't let me down so far, and I've had it for about a year now. And I honestly can't think of any big flaws about it right now. I'd stick to the 360 tho, but that's because I'm a cheapskate.
 

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Indigo_Dingo said:
likalaruku said:
I'm thinking of buying a PS1. I hate consoles, but I have some good polygonal memories from the 90s I'd like to relive. What's the going price for an old Playstation these days?
Wouldn't it be easier to just buy a Ps2?
No! That's exactly what they're expecting! Rawr! >o<
 

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Sketchy said:
Indigo_Dingo said:
Lets put it this way.

The Ps3 has this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d_3yKKEiKM#
Ah yes, but 360 has THIS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCO0blzOmIk

Oh wait, I see your point.

P.S. I was kidding, I love both of the consoles, and Viva Pinata is mighty fun.
Hmmm gief gief gief GoW3, at moments like that I really miss a PS3 ;-)
But as a more serious respond to that: the 360 has THIS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0bJWrMeKc4&feature=related
And they don't even show you the most awesome moves and weapons.