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steampunk42

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in response to the LRR video about the Columbus of the internet i have been inspired! starting today, i along with several of my internet savvy friends are setting out on a quest to locate the first troll of the internet, while we do not require more people we do appreciate any pointers you may give us, or perhaps useful leads....gentlemen, today we will find....the mother-troll!!!
 

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steampunk42 said:
in response to the LRR video about the Columbus of the internet i have been inspired! starting today, i along with several of my internet savvy friends are setting out on a quest to locate the first troll of the internet, while we do not require more people we do appreciate any pointers you may give us, or perhaps useful leads....gentlemen, today we will find....the mother-troll!!!
Well, trolling has been around for centuries, but the original artist of trollface is Whynne, a deviant-artist.

The more you know.
 

Souplex

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Trolls are not born as trolls.
They are born as men who are twisted and corrupted by hatred.
This is why trolls spew hatred, it is the only way to keep their numbers up.
 

Griphphin

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I'm of the belief that trolling has been around far longer than the internet, under different names (being a jerk, etc.), so I'd go with the first jerk on the internet.
 

gigastar

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Trolling has been around for much longer than the internet.

The definition of a troll is "A malcontent that deceptively posts a message or messages specifically designed to enrage, confuse, and/or infuriate as many people on a given forum as possible."
Thanks TvTropes [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Troll].

Replace forum with something like a noticeboard and you get the elder trolls.
 

KILGAZOR

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If you believe in Genesis, I think Satan trolled God pretty hard with that apple fiasco.
 

MostlyHarmless

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Either you die a normal Web-user or you live to see yourself become the Troll.

As long as there are three people left on the Earth, one of them will be there to make the other one pissed off.
 

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From the blog of the International Culture and Cognition Institute.


Yet more or less impersonal discussions did exist before the creation of Usenet (1979) ? in newspapers or gazettes, in the public places of big cities, etc. We should find Trolls there too. Indeed, we can find them in some of the first public places where free conversation between strangers was allowed, on a variety of topics : the antique Forum, grandfather of the virtual forums of today, womb of all Trolls. There you may find the antique equivalent of Trolls : what people at the time called ?sophists? or ?philosophers? ? two words that were used interchangeably by the man on the Forum. Many Sophists did not want to endorse the label ? sophistry was frowned upon or downright illegal in many places ? and insisted on being called Philosophers. But the average citizen did not distinguish much between all these varieties of arguers. It is clear from most outsiders? accounts that sophists/philosophers were perceived as disrupting the usual rules of conversation in a noxious way.

Two important men are having a careful conversation on military training. What do you call the guy who, having no particular competence or interest in the matter at hand, jumps in the conversation, systematically contradicts everyone with contrived arguments, ridicules the two competent discussants, orients the conversation on a completely different topic, then leaves the audience baffled and walks away, laughing? That Troll is Socrates in Plato?s Laches.
 

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http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Socrates


It's been around a lot longer than the internet.
 

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gigastar said:
Replace forum with something like a noticeboard and you get the elder trolls.
Replace noticeboards with mailing list. Tho if one was to find the first internet troll i guess it happened even before the internet went public and was still ARPA project. Im not sure if any discussions were logged back then and are still kept around.
 

steampunk42

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ok people i get that trolls have been aorund before the internet...but iwanna find the original internet one