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Krav Maga... for if you'd just like to mame the stupid S.O.B. that tried to hurt you or your friend.
As of I have only taken Tae Kwon Do. I can only say that after 2 years and being a Brown belt(belt just before Black) The acting on taking down an opponent with just one strike was quite satisfying.
You have to stay extremely fit and do lots of stretches. One of the black belt tests at the place I trained at was being able to break a board a foot above your head without useing your hands. (backflip FTW)
To my bad luck the dojo closed down just 2 months before I could take my black belt test. And checking out another dojo they used a defferent belt color system to show rank. I would have had to retake every test up to what would be considered brown at my dojo...
You have to stay extremely fit and do lots of stretches. One of the black belt tests at the place I trained at was being able to break a board a foot above your head without useing your hands. (backflip FTW)
To my bad luck the dojo closed down just 2 months before I could take my black belt test. And checking out another dojo they used a defferent belt color system to show rank. I would have had to retake every test up to what would be considered brown at my dojo...
Yes, that sounds good. I'll have to look harder for a Krav Maga school.MrKeroChan said:
Tae Kwon Do is perfectly designed to not fit me at all! I'm 5'10, stocky as hell and naturally inflexible. Plus, I'm naturally disinclined to join the most popular martial art in the world!RinrIck said:
Not my fault...Was the only dojo within 20 miles...rossatdi said:
You would be surprised what one can do with a little effort...or well...alot of effort...
One of the black belts at the dojo was a 5'4 woman who had to weigh about 200lbs...She could kick the instructor in the face who was 6'2...Good times...I do wish I could have seen her black belt test...
Cause some of the tests required things I think not she would be capable of performing...
One of the "drills" (I'm not sure what else to call it) in my fitness kickboxing class involves punching a bag with whatever arm you have in front immediately followed by the other hand, then switching your leads (turning so that your right hand and right foot are in front of the left hand and left foot, or the other way around. Usually this is done by jumping very slightly off the ground and turning at the same time) and repeating the process.PedroSteckecilo said:
Tests your fitness as well as your coordination. It's tough to last a minute without screwing up, but it feels so good to reach that point when you do.
However, most of the stuff we do is more simple than that.
In Mixed Martial Arts, you get 2-minute wrestling type matches near the end, where the goal is to get the other guy to tap out. And there is a bit more focus on technique than there is in fitness kickboxing.
That's the thing. I'd rather play to my strengths than trying to do something I'm bad at. A couple of mates have done TKD and what they've shown me I know its not the one for me. My natural instinct in a fight would be to close and use my weight and strength. A kick isn't going to be worth fuck all in realistic situation unless you're a black belt!RinrIck said:
As long as you keep your arms up to block any head kicks that is.
For practical self defense i would go for Aikido. I practiced for about 4 years before i went to Uni and found it very helpful in not only strength and confidence building but also in observation. If you mass up one of the more technical moves then if your observant enough you can either change on the fly and exploit another weakness or just go for the punch to the most exposed area before trying again.
Its not particularly spiritual but that depends on which dojo you go to, its based on respect and there's lots of bowing but at the end of the day its teaching you how to not get stabbed in a street fight and other useful things.
Its not particularly spiritual but that depends on which dojo you go to, its based on respect and there's lots of bowing but at the end of the day its teaching you how to not get stabbed in a street fight and other useful things.
That does sound useful! I can do respect, the spiritual aspect of some of them annoy me greatly.Limasol said:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aicHsMC6rxM
Oorah!
If you want effective brawling go west. Boxing and kick-boxing, are fast, simple and very efficient. Well you could go for some good old fashioned wrestling to top it of, that means go MMA.
In IRL situations where both you and your attacker is drunk, simple is the key, because that's the only thing you can handle (well you might be able to handle the rest but it's not recommended that you try) drunk
Low, hard kicks (like a nice round house or front kick). It's also very likely you will end up on the ground in a fight or two, wrestling would help you out of those situations.
Someone mentioned Krav Maga, YES! It's awesome!
In IRL situations where both you and your attacker is drunk, simple is the key, because that's the only thing you can handle (well you might be able to handle the rest but it's not recommended that you try) drunk
Low, hard kicks (like a nice round house or front kick). It's also very likely you will end up on the ground in a fight or two, wrestling would help you out of those situations.Someone mentioned Krav Maga, YES! It's awesome!
Your legs are longer then someones arms...You wanna use your weight put it into a front kick that knocks him to the ground THEN use your fists as you pummel him into the dirt, granate, wood...I learned how to use my legs before I started to use my fists...You knock his feet out from under him, knock him down, throw him against a hard object...That is first hit not ment to be last hit...rossatdi said:
I don't want to argue with on this one. I have rugby player's legs. All strength and no speed. I don't care how long they are, I won't be able to use them at full extension without years of training.RinrIck said:
Plus you're going to have to be pretty damn good at kicking to knock over a 200lb guy with a kick. Legs as far as I'm concern are controlling you and your opponent, kicking is for street fighter characters!
Only if he was braced for the kick...you can push someone over if they are standing strait with 2 fingers...If you play rugby you should know that...[/quote]RinrIck said:
Well yes, of course. I also did fencing for about 2 years. But there are not going to be many points in one's life when someone kicks you without you being prepared for it. And if you weren't prepared for it and really heavy punch to the face would probably be a debilitating.
I think it would be fair to say that for everyone outside of black belts kicking is going to get your ass kicked in a street fight type situation. You might score one hit but you're going to be off balance for so long (comparatively) that unless you take them down they'll be on you.
It's all about opportunity cost. With lots of work I could be quite good at kicking. But it is easy for me to strike with my upper body and merely control with my legs. There's no point slaving away to prove I can do something difficult (I'm already doing that with running) when something more naturally suited would be more useful, natural and quicker to pick up.RinrIck said:
You don't tend to see very many competitive TDK fighters built like rugby players!
Personally I see a "perfectly rounded" fighter is based on 3 different martial arts, although in all honesty "the more you know the better": Muay Thai, Jiu Jitsu and Tai Kwon Do.
Why? Simple. Muay Thai is the basic "standing-melee-fighting" style, well rounded, very versatile, no bullshit acrobatics. Simple, clean and very effective. Jiu Jitsu for the grapple-based fighting, specially ground-based grappling. In a 1 on 1 fighting it's quite possibly the most effective style. Also particularly good if you're at a significant size and strength disadvantage. And finally TKD, because acrobatics build agility, and TKD also teaches a lot of where to hit your adversary for maximum damage/injury.
Master those 3 arts (...goodluck with that...) and you're very likely to become very close to a perfect fighter.
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...It's somewhat insane to consider your average person will learn, or need, all of that. So if you really just want something you can do as a sport and to use for self-defense, I'd recommend wrestling (not WWE, actual wrestling), Muay Thai or Krav Maga.
Why? Simple. Muay Thai is the basic "standing-melee-fighting" style, well rounded, very versatile, no bullshit acrobatics. Simple, clean and very effective. Jiu Jitsu for the grapple-based fighting, specially ground-based grappling. In a 1 on 1 fighting it's quite possibly the most effective style. Also particularly good if you're at a significant size and strength disadvantage. And finally TKD, because acrobatics build agility, and TKD also teaches a lot of where to hit your adversary for maximum damage/injury.
Master those 3 arts (...goodluck with that...) and you're very likely to become very close to a perfect fighter.
-----------However--------
...It's somewhat insane to consider your average person will learn, or need, all of that. So if you really just want something you can do as a sport and to use for self-defense, I'd recommend wrestling (not WWE, actual wrestling), Muay Thai or Krav Maga.