Question of the Day, September 4, 2010

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Hoplon

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Sniper Team 4 said:
I voted for Halo. And no, I'm not ignorant, an idiot, a child, a moron, a stupid 12 year old, or someone who just doesn't know what he's talking about.
You still voted for Halo though. :D The only point against being it's not Doom, which while i was never a fan of was the one every one had heard of. way back in the 90's.

No Doom, none of the rest would have been made.

Mad Stalin said:
Who the hell votes halo? i mean jesus christ that games just the worst shit ever.
Congratulations, you just made me want to side with the Halo fan boys. no mean feat. :p
 

Benmonkey7

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Wolfenstein created the shooter genre. Doom made it more popular. Half-life gave it a story. Halo popularized console shooters. I voted for Doom even though I know think I should have said other for Wolfenstein.
 

Vzzdak

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Arella18 said:
Wolfenstein 3D was the first FPS game in existence so it influenced the shooter genre more than any other
Aye, back in the day, it was Wolfenstein 3D that people were addictively playing, literally sifting through the levels for hidden areas and easter eggs. Doom and Doom II were natural follow-ups.

However, HalfLife was revolutionary because it combined gameplay and story into an immersive experience that was quite unlike other FPS. HalfLife literally felt being within a film.
 

scythecow

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Halo didn't reinvent anything. It recycled a great deal and somehow made it very marketable. Its success prompted others to put out more FPS titles and particularly so for consoles. But it didn't do anything that other FPS titles hadn't already done much better, like Perfect Dark. And Perfect Dark only came to exist because it's the spiritual successor to GoldenEye 007. Halo didn't influence the genre so much as instill hope that copycats could sell well. For the most part in this way I think Halo spawned more weak FPS titles than anything else.

I feel like anyone voting Halo didn't pick up GoldenEye 007 when it came out. If anything, you're voting for the marketing and hype behind Halo more than the game itself.

Perfect Dark is one of my favorite games of all time and it is highly refined.

Then Perfect Dark Zero let me down because I was expecting quite a lot from the gameplay, but it was still a fun game.

Half-Life was huge, but not for its shooting mechanics or anything. It was good for the genre though.

Doom of course was a huge impact, but it didn't have the most impressive ingenuity or the greatest gameplay. And it didn't bring the genre to the console. Rare did all of that, in my opinion. There's a reason for the success of Perfect Dark remade for XBLA 10 years later.

I could be biased because I was completely unimpressed with Halo and then with Halo 2. I grudgingly beat Halo 2 on Legendary to find that yes, that WAS the real ending to the game.
 

Ham_authority95

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While halo definately invented the shooter format for the past decade, Doom started the whole FPS to start with.
 

Jim Grim

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Well, I mean you'd have to ask developers of subsequent shooters what games influenced them. It's a pretty hard question to answer.
 

duchaked

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Halo really set the stage for much of the modern FPS games back in the day
Goldeneye was the first FPS to really prove its weight on the console even before Halo
Half-Life was definitely something new, though its model is still mainly mastered by itself (although the no cut-scene storytelling seems to be appearing more and more)
and Doom...well yeah it's Doom haha
 

oktalist

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heavymedicombo said:
I say half life as it had more intelligence than, "kill these guys. take a key card to get here." halo introduced 2 real ideas and both of them are hit. limited weapons and regenerating health.
I don't think you can really call limited weapons an idea. It didn't take much to realise that maybe it didn't make sense for a supposedly human character to be able to carry a chainsaw, two shotguns, an SMG, a rifle, a grenade launcher, a rocket launcher and a BFG and ammo for all of the above. Most players of pre-Halo shooters would remark about it at some point.

mindlesspuppet said:
Not really sure why people over look Catacomb Abyss, I guess because it didn't have guns.
The zombies in that game made me shit my pants every time I saw them. And they were the slow-moving kind, too. Never have I seen a scarier zombie in a game. But maybe that's just because I was a tiny child when I played it.
 

oktalist

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new_age_reject said:
Regenerating health, only being able to hold two guns/4(ish) grenades
Those are often the things for which it is hated.

Halo brought these things to the console properly first. This series gets too much needless hate.
This is because it also gets too much needless praise. The haters exist to balance out the fanboys. Seriously, everyone needs to STFU about Halo already.
 

Jared

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Doom and Halo by far - If you look around so much stuff from both of those games appear in everything else
 

ZehGeek

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Doom, Quake and Wolfenstein were there before Half-Life,Halo,and Call of Duty. They will always be the pioneers to shooters. Now for like a story, that's really debetable.
 

jamesworkshop

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SomethingAmazing said:
Wtf is up with the lack of Quake votes?

Quake revolutionized the whole freaking genre. In more ways than any other FPS could compare to.
I voted quake

the proper mouse support makes it feel identical to shooters I play today

Doom is the grandaddy but few games took much from it, fps now are based on slow tank like characters, the doomguy moves like lightning something they forgot in Doom 3

Halo can reinvent the console fps all it likes, it's only making the best of a mediocre control scheme

Halflife still wishes it could be better than System shock 2 which itself wishes it could be better than deus ex
 

Wolfinton

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silentsentinel said:
I know it's not the most popular, but after Halo's release regenerating health became a staple in all modern shooters, so I voted that...
That's the exact reason I didn't vote Halo. Doom in my opinion inspired the most out of FPS's due to it laying down the template.
 

LandoCristo

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Most changing to the genre was Halo. Two weapon maximum, anybody?

But I think the HL was the best early shooter,its just that nobody's tried to copy it, and so it hasn't had that large of an impact.