Question of the Day, September 4, 2010
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Azure Sky said:
Quoted for truth, Halo had the potential to rewrite the entire FPS genra, but it crashed and burned the moment Bungie bowed in to the gamekiller known as "The Deadline".
It went from being pure gaming bliss, to 'just another fps'.
I voted Quake on that list, Who plays FPS's and hasnt heard of "Quad Damage"?
It went from being pure gaming bliss, to 'just another fps'.
I voted Quake on that list, Who plays FPS's and hasnt heard of "Quad Damage"?
answer: Halo Players
I messed this up because in retrospect I should have said "other".
Like a lot of things I think in this case the shooter genere was most influanced by an obscure and unsung hero that had a lot of interesting ideas, but wasn't all that successful.
In this case the game was called "Cybermage: Darklight Awakening". At the time this game came out it featured a lot of things you see in games nowadays like drivable vehicles (air cars), selectable abillities in addition to weapons, transparent "window walls", somewhat realistically designed cityscapes, multiple mission objectives, slot machines, a currency system for purchising weapons and upgrades, and numerous other things which I do not think had been done before. Not to mention a somewhat more detailed plot than the usual.
At the time this game came out, somewhat under the radar, a lot of people on things like Fidonet were praising it for having stuff that by rights should have been impossible for the time. It seems like it wasn't until AFTER this game came out that you started seeing these kinds of things inserted (piecemeal, or together) into other FPS games. There are many games who did all of these elements better, but nobody who did them together at the time, and it was probably first in most of those areas.
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I cast the vote for Counterstrike to be honest because while wrong in retrospect, I was thinking that it pretty much set the standard for competitive shooters. Before Counterstrike FPS games were mostly single player affairs (though not exclusively) it seemed, Counterstrike is what brought things online in a big way and got the competition firing. If it wasn't for this game I think games like Halo which succeed mostly based on their multiplayer never would have been anything like they are now.
Like a lot of things I think in this case the shooter genere was most influanced by an obscure and unsung hero that had a lot of interesting ideas, but wasn't all that successful.
In this case the game was called "Cybermage: Darklight Awakening". At the time this game came out it featured a lot of things you see in games nowadays like drivable vehicles (air cars), selectable abillities in addition to weapons, transparent "window walls", somewhat realistically designed cityscapes, multiple mission objectives, slot machines, a currency system for purchising weapons and upgrades, and numerous other things which I do not think had been done before. Not to mention a somewhat more detailed plot than the usual.
At the time this game came out, somewhat under the radar, a lot of people on things like Fidonet were praising it for having stuff that by rights should have been impossible for the time. It seems like it wasn't until AFTER this game came out that you started seeing these kinds of things inserted (piecemeal, or together) into other FPS games. There are many games who did all of these elements better, but nobody who did them together at the time, and it was probably first in most of those areas.
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I cast the vote for Counterstrike to be honest because while wrong in retrospect, I was thinking that it pretty much set the standard for competitive shooters. Before Counterstrike FPS games were mostly single player affairs (though not exclusively) it seemed, Counterstrike is what brought things online in a big way and got the competition firing. If it wasn't for this game I think games like Halo which succeed mostly based on their multiplayer never would have been anything like they are now.
The_root_of_all_evil said:Not even close: Maze War (circa 1974) [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maze_War]Unrulyhandbag said:Ultima underworld.
proper first person game even before wolfenstien.
The old maze games don't count, they didn't have freedom of movement and that was about as far as first person games went for a while. UU made the FP perspective useful and shortly after we had UU2, wolf3d, doom, and then about a billion doom clones.
Children who realized Halo 2 popularized FPS multiplayer on consoles, which is basically all AAA shooters are nowadays.Cassita said:
It also had regenerating health, which is now a staple of FPS
Not that it would be my choice, but the changes it made aren't to be mocked at.
Halo? No. Just, no.
Voted for HL. A game with a decent story that lasts already for 10 years, with crossovers and stuff. And it's still smells good.
Voted for HL. A game with a decent story that lasts already for 10 years, with crossovers and stuff. And it's still smells good.
Well, Quake, Duke Nukem, Dia-Katana, and Half-Life were all released before Halo: Combat Evolved. And the three games you mentioned that were released after Halo: Combat Evolved all come from a Health-bar loving company, Valve. I remember people in forums (including this one) were always complaining about how after Halo the regenerating-health thing was done to death. Heck, there were entire threads devoted to it.The_root_of_all_evil said:
So that's why I chose Halo.
First it was Doom that created the FPS Universe, Than it was Golden Eye that raised it to the top, than it was Halo that whored the genre and brought in several neck bearded fat nerds who wanted to wear such a cool looking suit.
Though, that is only my opinion.
Though, that is only my opinion.
I'd honestly like to hear people justify what major influence Half-life had on the genre. Sure it's a great, innovative game but that isn't what influence is.
Doom made FPSs popular and set the standard model of the FPS for years to come.
Quake made online multiplayer popular.
GoldenEye 007 made console shooters viable.
Halo made console shooters popular and set the standard model for the so-called "modern" FPS.
What did Half-life do besides be an excellent game?
Doom made FPSs popular and set the standard model of the FPS for years to come.
Quake made online multiplayer popular.
GoldenEye 007 made console shooters viable.
Halo made console shooters popular and set the standard model for the so-called "modern" FPS.
What did Half-life do besides be an excellent game?
Doom for single player gaming, but Quake for online multiplayer. Quake revolutionized the way I saw FPS games and what they were capable of with an ethernet cord. Sure in the early stages no diff between quake, unreal, or tribes big picture wise, but Quake 3 Arena just dominated and completely changed everything about fast paced arcade style FPS.
It isn't about whether you liked it or not, its about its impact. Even without the Health regeneration, Halo 2 still has a huge impact for popularizing console multiplayer and the Xbox Live service. Like I said, almost all FPS are now online multiplayer based and a ton of people have Xbox Live or PSN and play Call of Duty or Halo (or anything) online.Azure Sky said:
And no, the brutes were not a good idea, they were silly. But they weren't in the multiplayer, thank god.
While I do agree with you on most points, I do believe that the problem most people have with the Halo series is the um.. Loud Majority? of players within its playerbase rather than the game itself.ianrocks6495 said:
That being said, going by what you said, does leave Halo's state in somewhat of an unfortunate position.