Question of the Day, September 6, 2010
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I don't know
there are way to many new RPG's on that list
I also didn't know Zelda was an RPG
I think KOTOR would have to be there before Dragon Age
And I would guess final fantasy because it's the oldest one I could recognize
but something that should Influence the genera is the Tales series
I'm not saying it has but it should
more games should adopt that 4 player co-op hack and slash battle system
there are way to many new RPG's on that list
I also didn't know Zelda was an RPG
I think KOTOR would have to be there before Dragon Age
And I would guess final fantasy because it's the oldest one I could recognize
but something that should Influence the genera is the Tales series
I'm not saying it has but it should
more games should adopt that 4 player co-op hack and slash battle system
Baldur's Gate
Bards Tales (the original)
Diablo
Ultima
Are all missing from this list.
Personally I find it hard to pick between the four of them..
Bards Tales (the original)
Diablo
Ultima
Are all missing from this list.
Personally I find it hard to pick between the four of them..
Umm I think you'll find that it was dragon's quest practically invented the 'generic JRPG'.Mackheath said:
Dragons quest was first out (and resembled most modern JRPG's) in 1982, while FF was created in 1987. At the time of creation, Sakaguchi (the original dev for Final Fanasty) indicated that Final fantasy was inspired by Dragons Quest, Zelda and Ultima..
I said Oblivion, just because it seemed to represent elder scrolls series on the list.
Dammit, no Zelda. Not an RPG
There are some things thast arent on the list that I would have chosen though. Like WoW or Diablo.
Dammit, no Zelda. Not an RPG
There are some things thast arent on the list that I would have chosen though. Like WoW or Diablo.
Not to sound stuck up, but I'm going to call misinformation on all these "Final Fantasy invented JRPGs" posts.
Dragon Quest was released over a year before FF, and it was the first to utilize typical JRPG conventions, such as TBed combat, level grinding, warrior/thief/mage classes-in other words, the first to rip off DnD.
Dragon Quest was released over a year before FF, and it was the first to utilize typical JRPG conventions, such as TBed combat, level grinding, warrior/thief/mage classes-in other words, the first to rip off DnD.
See, now we're getting into semantics again, because essentially the top 3 and the bottom 3 choices may as well be two separate genres. But if we somehow manage to negotiate the Great Nomenclature Reef, I'm going to say Ultima 4. Just off the top of my head, it was the first attempt to give an RPG some semblance of the R and the P.
those games are too new
think back to 1981
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizardry
Wizardry: Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord
The popularity of Wizardry in Japan led to the making of many novels, comics, pen-and-paper role-playing games, and an OVA (direct-to-video animation), and several original console sequels, spinoffs, and ports. Most have been released only in Japan.
Wizardry also established the command-driven battle system with a still image of the monster being fought that would be emulated in later games, such as The Bard's Tale, Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy.
Wizardry really is the orginator of the computer RPG
Prettier but more or less the same
think back to 1981
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizardry
Wizardry: Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord
The popularity of Wizardry in Japan led to the making of many novels, comics, pen-and-paper role-playing games, and an OVA (direct-to-video animation), and several original console sequels, spinoffs, and ports. Most have been released only in Japan.
Wizardry also established the command-driven battle system with a still image of the monster being fought that would be emulated in later games, such as The Bard's Tale, Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy.
Wizardry really is the orginator of the computer RPG
Prettier but more or less the same
I picked CT because of the awesome storytelling, side quests, battle system and for getting rid of random monster encounters and replacing it with ambushes. That last bit was made even better by the fact the game doesn't need to go to a separate screen for the battles.Ravek said:
You are wrong. On every single count. There are many people who neither love FF7 nor think it the best thing ever. It did not "open the west up to RPGs again", we had plenty of excellent RPGs up until it came out (System Shock, Diablo, The Elder Scrolls I and II, etc.) It broke no stereotypes, RPGrs have been playing in every kind of sci-fi or fantasy setting before the first DOS MUD was ever thought up. In fact, the original Final Fantasy, the one actually mentioned in the poll, is much more generic and stereotypical than the game it mimicked, the original Dragon Warrior.Judas Iscariot said:
Time to clear up a myth.
"Influence" does not have anything to do with the quality of a game or how fondly it was remembered. It has everything to do with how much of a game you see in the games following it. Oblivion and certainly Dragon Age are sort of disqualified because there hasn't been enough time to see the scope of their influence. The original Final Fantasy has almost no influence; everything it did was done before it at some point. The reason it did so well was because it took elements from other games and took them farther and made them better. This means it is a good game, but not influential.
TES: DaggerFall is influential because it basically created the first massive open world in a video game. Daggerfall may or may not be as good as Final Fantasy, but because it created features that are used heavily in games today, it is more influential.
I feel like many are just voting based on their favorite and not considering the actually influence of any of these games (see: anyone voting for DA:O)
"Influence" does not have anything to do with the quality of a game or how fondly it was remembered. It has everything to do with how much of a game you see in the games following it. Oblivion and certainly Dragon Age are sort of disqualified because there hasn't been enough time to see the scope of their influence. The original Final Fantasy has almost no influence; everything it did was done before it at some point. The reason it did so well was because it took elements from other games and took them farther and made them better. This means it is a good game, but not influential.
TES: DaggerFall is influential because it basically created the first massive open world in a video game. Daggerfall may or may not be as good as Final Fantasy, but because it created features that are used heavily in games today, it is more influential.
I feel like many are just voting based on their favorite and not considering the actually influence of any of these games (see: anyone voting for DA:O)
