Question of the Day, September 6, 2010
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Baldur's Gate series for me. It was the series that hooked me up on RPG's. Final Fantasy is a bit too Japanese for me, and though it has had a big influence on JRPG's, I somewhat doubt it's influence on western RPG's, which came from Dungeons and Dragons tabletop games.
That's a really shit poll you've got there Escapist. Where's Baldur's Gate or Fallout or Planescape: Torment or Gothic or Deus Ex or Ultima. Dragon age has no place on that list, it's an amazing game but hardly influential and Oblivion should be changed to The Elder Scrolls series or at least Morrowind. Thy poll is wank !
Oblivion was just an alteration on the theme set by Morrowind, which wouldn't exist without the first two Elder Scrolls games. Simply put, each RPG released affects all the RPGs released after it. It's safe to say the RPG genre would not be the same without either of the games on the list.dragonslayer32 said:
Or maybe I'm just talking shit because there's no game in the poll that actually did major crap.
Final Fantasy, hands down. Love it or hate it, this game series has set a lot of standards in the RPG world.
I think Chrono Trigger is easily the best RPG ever, but I'm not sure it has been influential. It didn't really do anything completely new over Final Fantasy, it just did it tons better. I can't think of any games that specifically copied off Chrono Trigger. Even if Chrono Trigger were a poll choice, I'd have to pick Final Fantasy.Redlin5 said:
Of course the game that most influenced RPGs was Dungeons and Dragons.
I know what the question is and I answered it accordingly, Oblivion was more influential because it didn't have any cut scenes and still was a great game, meaning it focused all on gameplay. It was the first RPG I am aware of to do this.Flying-Emu said:
That's really not 'influential' since there AREN'T a lot of RPGs that do this.dragonslayer32 said:
No, their aren't a lot of RPGs that do this, but the ones that do are all modern RPGs with more following in their footsteps. It has shown the RPG genre that cut scenes aren't needed, thus changing the genre, MAKING IT MORE INFLUENTIAL.Flying-Emu said:
How come these are all new titles (relatively)? I mean Dragon Age has hardly got enough time to influence the genre. Also a lot of the games are just newer renditions of old ideas. Dragon Age can never be as influential as Baldur's Gate since it borrows so heavily from that game (which is not a bad thing) and Oblivion has had very little influence that wasn't originally from Morrowind (or Daggerfall for that matter but I haven't played that so...). No wonder Final Fantasy gets the most votes that game really was influential since it started the whole genre and wasn't just a small evolutionary step like the others on the list (I'm not saying that they were bad but Neverwinter Nights for example wasn't all that innovative, it was just BG in 3d).
That said I have to pick Baldur's Gate as the most influential. It wasn't the first and it too built on games before it but I think that's where the mold of the modern RPG took form. Also I picked it above FF since when I think of RPG I don't really think of FF or Diablo for that matter even though both are technically RPGs.
That said I have to pick Baldur's Gate as the most influential. It wasn't the first and it too built on games before it but I think that's where the mold of the modern RPG took form. Also I picked it above FF since when I think of RPG I don't really think of FF or Diablo for that matter even though both are technically RPGs.
Final Fantasy was a wonderful game (for the time) for the NES. Final Fantasy II & III (4 & 6) were incredible games for the SNES (6 especially). But as much as it pains me to admit, RPGs still were not VERY popular. It took the graphics overhaul of Final Fantasy 7 to make the role playing game a popular, uber successful genre that it is today (but it also marked the beginning of the decline for the venerable F.F. series).
You do realize that Final Fantasy only started it's 'cut-scenes' with #7, right? Before that the characters would simply move around and talk without the player being in complete control, or they wouldn't talk at all (silent protagonists) and the story would evolve around them. Oblivion (though I love it) was not the innovator here.dragonslayer32 said:
I'd prefer to say that JRPGs and RPGs are separate genres, as Final Fantasy has undoubtedly had a massive impact on JRPGs but probably very little effect on western ones.
Anyway, I think Baldur's Gate has had the biggest impact on the Western RPG genre, at least with the focus on choices of your party members and their interactions with one another.
If there was a JRPG version of this, I think Final Fantasy would be the major influencing force there.
Anyway, I think Baldur's Gate has had the biggest impact on the Western RPG genre, at least with the focus on choices of your party members and their interactions with one another.
If there was a JRPG version of this, I think Final Fantasy would be the major influencing force there.
It was for current gen consoles. Final Fantasy evolved with adding cut scenes and RPGs followed this. Oblivion however, went against this changing how we play RPGs today.Abanic said: