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Sporky111

Sporky111

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Mad World said:
A homosexual couple may not raise their child(ren) to also be gay, but they (the child) may still experience gender and sexual confusion. Like I said, I'm not completely sure if this is true, but I have read it to be true
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That works both ways, you know. Heterosexual parents can just as easily cause gender and sexual confusion.

In truth, I'm sure this is far more common. Most families raise their children to be straight, and it often becomes a very traumatic experience for a child or teen to discover that they're gay. Your logic is flawed.
 
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Seitou

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Mad World said:
Kermi said:
Even if we assume gay parents are going to raise a child to be gay - which I don't think is the case unless the child is going to be predisposed towards homosexuality anyway - you have to disapprove of homosexuality to consider this a "negative" influence.
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I do disapprove of it, though - of homosexual acts, anyway; I don't hate gays for being gay, but I am against the evil acts.

A homosexual couple may not raise their child(ren) to also be gay, but they (the child) may still experience gender and sexual confusion. Like I said, I'm not completely sure if this is true, but I have read it to be true. So in the meantime, I "Disagree" on adoption. It could change to "Neutral," "Agree," or even "Strongly Agree." But it could also go down to "Strongly Disagree."

However, I am firm on my position on whether or not gay marriage should be allowed. I don't think that it should.
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The use of the word evil there nearly made me throttle my monitor, evil is both subjective and far more then gay people. >.< I do have one proper question though. If you dislike gay marriage, what about a gay civil union, it's not religious, it's just a legal contract that lets them have the legal benefits of marriage without being involved in anything god related, would you have any objections to that?
 
Daniel_Rosamilia

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Magnesium360 said:
1. Male
2. Strongly agree
3. Strongly agree

In Australia, our government is very backwards when it comes to same-sex marriage, but I believe it's anyone's right to marry who they love, regardless of their gender or the gender of their partner.
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Quoted for truth, and that he stole all my answers.
Oh, and he's Australian. :D
 
lettucethesallad

lettucethesallad

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1. Female
2. Strongly agree (in the way that I think gay married couples should have the same rights as straight married couples. I don't think you should be able to force any specific religion to change their customs if they're strongly against it though.)
3. Strongly agree
 
David_G

David_G

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1. Male
2. Agree (Would've been Disagree but marriage hasn't been holy for a long time)
3. Disagree (maybe later on when gays become more acceptable in society, since the kid is going to get teased and bullied. A lot)
 
Bon_Clay

Bon_Clay

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Seitou said:
Mad World said:
Kermi said:
Even if we assume gay parents are going to raise a child to be gay - which I don't think is the case unless the child is going to be predisposed towards homosexuality anyway - you have to disapprove of homosexuality to consider this a "negative" influence.
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I do disapprove of it, though - of homosexual acts, anyway; I don't hate gays for being gay, but I am against the evil acts.

A homosexual couple may not raise their child(ren) to also be gay, but they (the child) may still experience gender and sexual confusion. Like I said, I'm not completely sure if this is true, but I have read it to be true. So in the meantime, I "Disagree" on adoption. It could change to "Neutral," "Agree," or even "Strongly Agree." But it could also go down to "Strongly Disagree."

However, I am firm on my position on whether or not gay marriage should be allowed. I don't think that it should.
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The use of the word evil there nearly made me throttle my monitor, evil is both subjective and far more then gay people. >.< I do have one proper question though. If you dislike gay marriage, what about a gay civil union, it's not religious, it's just a legal contract that lets them have the legal benefits of marriage without being involved in anything god related, would you have any objections to that?
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I agree that him calling homosexual acts evil was pretty god damn ridiculous. That's fine if its your opinion, can't punish you for thinking a certain way, but trying to apply that sort of thought into public law would be an outright crime.

Civil unions are a cop out. Marriage is not strictly a religious thing, and no religion should have any say over who gets married. Of course they have absolutely no obligation to marry same sex couples themselves, a church should have the right to refuse to marry anyone they want for any reason without exception. That is their business and they should be free to do it how they want. But one done without any church involvement with a judge or whatever should be free to everyone or no one at all.
 
newuseforvintage

newuseforvintage

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Sep 6, 2009
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1. Disagree
2. Strongly Agree

Now to explain my disagree choice for option 1.
I am strongly PRO-gay. I am all for homosexual equality in society.
They're human, I'm human, we cool. You know?
BUT!
When most people in the Western world, those this survey is aimed at, speak about marriage they are talking about the idea of marriage as founded and created in a Christian society. Our cultures, predominantly, were shaped in to what they are today by the beliefs of the fiercely religious, this is why marriage features in our laws.
So, whilst I believe in homosexual rights, I do not believe that people who do not follow the perceived tenants of a faith should be allowed to practice certain aspects whilst disregarding others.

Should homosexual couples be granted equal, legal, rights as married heterosexual couples?
Definitely.

Should they be allowed to feel righteous when told they can't get married in a church with a conservative following because "that's discrimination"?
No.
 
Mikaze

Mikaze

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Mar 23, 2008
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1. Male
2. Strongly agree
3. Strongly agree

newuseforvintage said:
Male
1. Disagree
2. Strongly Agree

Now to explain my disagree choice for option 1.
I am strongly PRO-gay. I am all for homosexual equality in society.
They're human, I'm human, we cool. You know?
BUT!
When most people in the Western world, those this survey is aimed at, speak about marriage they are talking about the idea of marriage as founded and created in a Christian society. Our cultures, predominantly, were shaped in to what they are today by the beliefs of the fiercely religious, this is why marriage features in our laws.
So, whilst I believe in homosexual rights, I do not believe that people who do not follow the perceived tenants of a faith should be allowed to practice certain aspects whilst disregarding others.

Should homosexual couples be granted equal, legal, rights as married heterosexual couples?
Definitely.

Should they be allowed to feel righteous when told they can't get married in a church with a conservative following because "that's discrimination"?
No.
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I can see where you're coming from, but in a progressive and multi-faith society that seperates church and state the argument that "it's against our religion, it cannot be" argument fails to hold water, especially when marriage as a legally binding entity ceased to be religious decades ago.

The real argument seems to me to be that the conservatives want to deny homosexual couples their civil rights because they're 'evil'.
 
Katherine Kerensky

Katherine Kerensky

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Mar 27, 2009
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Oh yay.

Female.
Strongly Agree.
Strongly Agree.

Because love is love, no matter the physical forms of the lovers.
And religion can stay out of it. They have no say in whether it is right or wrong for someone to love someone else.
I've already declared war on certain places in this world over such matters.
When the invasion comes, all will burn. All will become dust.
 
SovietSecrets

SovietSecrets

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Thank you to everyone who responded! Got my minimum and more than I needed. Thanks a lot guys and gals.
 
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