Quit WoW, Looking for new mmo/rpg fix

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Gildan Bladeborn said:
You might consider looking into Dungeons and Dragons Online - since it went free to play it will certainly be easy on your wallet initially. I've been finding it pretty fun recently, but then again I'm a gigantic nerd who loves D&D (tonight's my pen & paper gaming session, glee), so your mileage might vary.

But hey, it's free!
This man speaks the truth! DDO is a great MMO. It just does so much right... It's also won awards for best free-to-play MMO. It's also been announced that Lord of the Rings Online is going free, looking forward to trying that out!
 

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I've heard some good things about newcomer "Allods". A friend of mine described it to me, and it sounds like it could be worth a download (microtransaction-model in place there, free to play otherwise).

It's what I plan to try out as soon as I get Windows running.
 

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Jasper Jeffs said:
Aion is good, they just released a patch giving more exp from quests and increasing drop rates too, so it's less grindy than it was. Although, levelling from 40-50 is still a big "what the fuck", and there are still money sinks all over the place. But, for some reason, I like that. The legendary items are legendary, and it's fucking satisfying when you get one, and the game makes you work hard to get them. Although, it does take a while to do anything, which you might find annoying, so I'd suggest Guild Wars. You don't pay monthly, it has a lot of content and a lot to do, and the PvP is dope.
This really interests me, i was looking at aion quite alot however the lack of a free trial stopped my from getting it. deffs worth the money then? anyone else played it got an opinion? :)
 

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This really interests me, i was looking at aion quite alot however the lack of a free trial stopped my from getting it. deffs worth the money then? anyone else played it got an opinion? :)
Friend of mine played it and said it was horribly grindy, and grinding was apparently pretty much mandatory (not like in WoW, I never really grind) just like in pretty much every other typical, Korean MMO. I could ask for more info if you like.
 

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Well if you're bored of World of Warcraft I'd suggest something completely different. I used to play it and it's by far the best M.M.O.R.P.G. out there. I now play Dawn of War 2: Chaos Rising which is a real time strategy game and is really fun.
 

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Cowabungaa said:
Friend of mine played it and said it was horribly grindy, and grinding was apparently pretty much mandatory (not like in WoW, I never really grind) just like in pretty much every other typical, Korean MMO. I could ask for more info if you like.
that'd be great mate, yeah i heard it was pretty grindy, but Jasper said the new patch got rid of some of this so getting some more knowledge would be good :)

AllLagNoFrag said:
Congratz on your quitting. Then again, it is sort of like quitting smoking and becoming an alcoholic.

On topic: You could wait for the new star wars MMO (coming out this year). And in what way do you judge an mmo or rpg to be "good"?
Ah yeah now you've got me, Thats hard to describe haha. guess something that technically runs well but also has something to keep me engaged with the action. Hence why EVE online was not great Imo, i had no idea what was going on story wise.
 

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You might want to try out Runes of Magic ;]
The game play is riped off WoW so you wont have any problems getting into it :]
It has tons of quests, a fun skill leveling system, a big world and its free :D
 

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Cowabungaa said:
Mindmaker said:
And the reason is...?
Polish and versatility. Nowadays, you can play whatever you like however you like.

Blizzard has given you a lot more freedom on how you can play WoW, from old-school 'uber hardcorez' to more lay-back casual style whilst still giving everyone access to all the content.
I quit some months before WotLK was released.
To me felt like you only had the freedom to grind.
PVE grind, PVP grind, crafting grind and so on.

Too much emphasis on gear and not enough emphasis on skill.

Even worse: the community.
I couldn't stand the forums.

If I kept on playing I probably would have quit as soon as Cataclysm came out.
Wait, nightelf mages? Even after they swore never to use magic again?
Tauren paladins?
Good job, you just became an MMO and threw the RPG part away.

Kagim said:
They are good at what they do. They listen to the majority of fans whispering and ignore the minority of fan screaming.
To me it felt the other way round.
I can't find another explanation how you can screw up balance that hard...

After that I picked up DAoC and had a great time with it.
Unfortuantely I had to stop playing on US servers, since the latency was so high (unbearable for a game that puts such an emphasis on RvR in endgame) and the payment was a big pain without a credit card.
European servers were kind of dead unfortunately...
 

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I don't play MMOs of any sort, the addictiveness is bad for me, physically mainly.

Try some Blizzard games, like Diablo. Or you could wait for The Old Republic.

Or for offline ones, try Fallout 3, Oblivion, or Knights of the Old Republic.
 

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Could try out Perfect World - it's free and has no subscription so if you hate it you haven't made a loss in any way
 
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Mogz said:
After finally realizing every time i logged into wow i would just sit there trying to find something to do after clearing all of the content thus far, I cancelled my subscription.

Though now I'm really craving a good mmo or rpg to sink my teeth into, any of you guys got any suggestions?
Good man. Admitting it is your first step.

For Free, you can now get Conan, Lord of The Rings, Requiem, Warhammer, Dungeons and Dragons Online, Guild Wars.

For Trials, all of the above and Everquest 1 and 2.

If you're into graphics and atmosphere, LotRo (see Shamus's guide) or Everquest 2. (1's better, but there's less people - Luclan D'lere is a reasonable server)

If it's more about the PvP, Guild Wars is probably a good port of call.

If you're more about storyline, Warhammer/Conan.

If you just want guts, Requiem.

If you want teamplay, D&D Online.

But wait: here's a nice handy list as well of free trials: http://www.gameogre.com/demos.htm

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World of Warcraft is the King of MMORPG's for a reason.
Hired assassins usually.
 

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Mindmaker said:
I quit some months before WotLK was released.
To me felt like you only had the freedom to grind.
PVE grind, PVP grind, crafting grind and so on.

Too much emphasis on gear and not enough emphasis on skill.

Even worse: the community.
I couldn't stand the forums.

If I kept on playing I probably would have quit as soon as Cataclysm came out.
Wait, nightelf mages? Even after they swore never to use magic again?
Tauren paladins?
Good job, you just became an MMO and threw the RPG part away.
I never grind. Not for PvP, not for PvE, if I have to kill something too damned often I'm outa there. And you know what? I've got plenty of cash and level up pretty smoothly, I'm doing just fine. Don't have to farm anything at all. Since WotLK a lot has changed, like the Random Dungeon Finder tool. Good gods that makes leveling so much more enjoyable.

As for gear, there barely is an emphasis on that nowadays. Hell that's something people complain about, gear being so easily accessible instead of being the status symbol it once was. But I love it, it does put the emphasis on skill. Especially in PvP where gear is pretty much equal (arena items).

As for the Cataclysm thing, no law states that fictional universes can't progress like ours do. Nothing stops some individual Night Elves from learning about the arcane, nothing stops individual Tauren from turning to the Light. I mean, Azeroth is trembling on it's foundations. Drastic times call for drastic measures, that includes Night Elves reluctantly returning to using magic.

Can't argue about the forums though. Everyone always whines about any change Blizzard makes, and still beg for more. Hence why I avoid them.
The_root_of_all_evil said:
For Free, you can now get Conan, Lord of The Rings, Requiem, Warhammer, Dungeons and Dragons Online, Guild Wars.

For Trials, all of the above and Everquest 1 and 2.
Waitwut? I don't hope you mean that WAR and AoC don't require you to subscribe, because you still do. Sure WAR's trial is endless, but you can't progress past level 10 or something. And LotR still requires a subscription until this fall, so we still have to pay for a few months.
 

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Cowabungaa said:
As for the Cataclysm thing, no law states that fictional universes can't progress like ours do. Nothing stops some individual Night Elves from learning about the arcane, nothing stops individual Tauren from turning to the Light. I mean, Azeroth is trembling on it's foundations. Drastic times call for drastic measures, that includes Night Elves reluctantly returning to using magic.
Call me conservative, but I don't like it.
WoW never even came close to the story presented in WC3 or the Warcraft books.
Not that people play the game for its story or even care about it, but still...

I tried to compensate by starting over on a RP server.
But guess what?
There was no difference to a PvP server.
 

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Mindmaker said:
Call me conservative, but I don't like it.
WoW never even came close to the story presented in WC3 or the Warcraft books.
Not that people play the game for its story or even care about it, but still...

I tried to compensate by starting over on a RP server.
But guess what?
There was no difference to a PvP server.
Apparently many people are like that. I don't get that, as if game universes (and it's not just the Warcraft universe) are not allowed to progress.

In any case, I do play it for it's story, at least it's one reason. It's just a damned shame that it took until WotLK for Blizzard to finally integrate story and gameplay in a really good way. It's also why I can't wait for Cataclysm; it'll bring the 1-60 content on par with the WotLK content, quality-wise.
 

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Mogz said:
Jasper Jeffs said:
Aion is good, they just released a patch giving more exp from quests and increasing drop rates too, so it's less grindy than it was. Although, levelling from 40-50 is still a big "what the fuck", and there are still money sinks all over the place. But, for some reason, I like that. The legendary items are legendary, and it's fucking satisfying when you get one, and the game makes you work hard to get them. Although, it does take a while to do anything, which you might find annoying, so I'd suggest Guild Wars. You don't pay monthly, it has a lot of content and a lot to do, and the PvP is dope.
This really interests me, i was looking at aion quite alot however the lack of a free trial stopped my from getting it. deffs worth the money then? anyone else played it got an opinion? :)
It's hard to say, it's unforgiving, full of money sinks, offers little guidance as to where you're supposed to be going and, even with the patch, is rather grindy. I like it though, it has slow progression, and the PvP is very fun. I don't know the full effect of the patch making things less grindy as I'm almost lv.46, but they have added 8 quests which are repeatable 10 times each to this one town I've been in, and I've levelled nearly 4 times off them alone, which is a lot at lv.46. I was able to do 43-46 in under a week, before the patch it would've took me about 2 weeks, maybe even more when without the quests, I would've been made to grind mobs, which I can't devote myself to do. I think they've added similar quests in every zone though, it's just a matter of finding them.

I can't recommend Aion, because a lot of people I know don't like it for the aforementioned reasons. I don't really mind them myself, it makes the game more satisfying. You could look on YouTube or get more opinions, because it's a love or hate game. I don't want to say "buy it", only for you to find out it's not your thing, and it's still like £20 with a free month or something.
 

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Mindmaker said:
Cowabungaa said:
Mindmaker said:
And the reason is...?
Polish and versatility. Nowadays, you can play whatever you like however you like.

Blizzard has given you a lot more freedom on how you can play WoW, from old-school 'uber hardcorez' to more lay-back casual style whilst still giving everyone access to all the content.
I quit some months before WotLK was released.
To me felt like you only had the freedom to grind.
PVE grind, PVP grind, crafting grind and so on.

Too much emphasis on gear and not enough emphasis on skill.

Even worse: the community.
I couldn't stand the forums.

If I kept on playing I probably would have quit as soon as Cataclysm came out.
Wait, nightelf mages? Even after they swore never to use magic again?
Tauren paladins?
Good job, you just became an MMO and threw the RPG part away.
The nightelves are not using magic again, they are just accepting Highbourne back into there ranks with the coming of Deathwing. Highbourne have always used magic.

Tauren Paladins are Paladins in Mechanics only. Technically they are sun worshipers. There is a bit of story behind it. You probably shouldn't listen to the people screaming and actually check out the in game story where it talks about it.

Its no different then Undead Priests. Undead Priests don't worship the light but rather the forgotten shadow. Nor do they cast Holy healing magics as that would cause them to burn from the inside out. Mechanically they are using holy element. Story wise they are using Shadow magic.

The game has always been about grinding, you just don't have to devote as much time as you used to. Before it was about grinding the same raid sixty times for a single piece of gear and you had to PvP every single day to maintain your rank otherwise you lose all your progress. Now the Raids are about the content, exploring the raid areas and seeing the story unfold. Gear is no longer the ultimate goal but rather completing the content itself is. Thus why Heroic modes have been included. You can't out gear Heroic Raids with current end gear.

PvP is nothing but skill now. Once you get top tier PvP gear skill separates the scrubs from the heroes. Two warriors in the same gear, the crappy warrior is going to get burned while the skilled one still has full health.
 

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Mogz said:
After finally realizing every time i logged into wow i would just sit there trying to find something to do after clearing all of the content thus far, I cancelled my subscription.

Though now I'm really craving a good mmo or rpg to sink my teeth into, any of you guys got any suggestions?
Guild wars or warhammer online:age of reckoning
 

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AllLagNoFrag said:
Congratz on your quitting. Then again, it is sort of like quitting smoking and becoming an alcoholic.

On topic: You could wait for the new star wars MMO (coming out this year). And in what way do you judge an mmo or rpg to be "good"?
Ah yeah now you've got me, Thats hard to describe haha. guess something that technically runs well but also has something to keep me engaged with the action. Hence why EVE online was not great Imo, i had no idea what was going on story wise.[/quote]

Hmm... honestly, I don't play enough mmo's but, something that runs technically well is what mmo's that are coming out are striving to do (all you have to do is wait a while and dive into the awesome collection of multiplayer/singleplayer games). For an mmo to keep you engaged with the action.... hmmm, well, when you find one, if you do, please tell me. I have yet to witness an mmo that has kept a person engaged with the action because imo, every mmo gets repetitive and always has a bottomline (main reason of the game that you just keep playing for)

Guild Wars is very promising though. It has probably the least amount of training/grinding needed (if any) and from what my friends tell me, engaging action and fun team play.
 

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Well you ahve two options:

1. Go back to wow, or

2. Settle for a shitty game.

It's one or the other as far as online games are concerned. Don't ask me why non-Blizzard companies can't make a good mmo, they just can't.
 

Mogz

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Jasper Jeffs said:
It's hard to say, it's unforgiving, full of money sinks, offers little guidance as to where you're supposed to be going and, even with the patch, is rather grindy. I like it though, it has slow progression, and the PvP is very fun. I don't know the full effect of the patch making things less grindy as I'm almost lv.46, but they have added 8 quests which are repeatable 10 times each to this one town I've been in, and I've levelled nearly 4 times off them alone, which is a lot at lv.46. I was able to do 43-46 in under a week, before the patch it would've took me about 2 weeks, maybe even more when without the quests, I would've been made to grind mobs, which I can't devote myself to do. I think they've added similar quests in every zone though, it's just a matter of finding them.

I can't recommend Aion, because a lot of people I know don't like it for the aforementioned reasons. I don't really mind them myself, it makes the game more satisfying. You could look on YouTube or get more opinions, because it's a love or hate game. I don't want to say "buy it", only for you to find out it's not your thing, and it's still like £20 with a free month or something.
Thanks alot, deffs gonna look into it, nice to hear a balanced review of a game rather than, omg i play _____, buy it. That goes for 99% of these posts too, i like this forum :)