R.I.P Hitman series

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Ilikemilkshake

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SuperMse said:
Ilikemilkshake said:
dissapointing but hopefully it will bring new people to the franchise without actually diluting the quality... although ive yet to see a game actually accomplish that
CoD 4, New Super Mario Bros. (both of em'), Mega Man 9, Mass Effect 2 and, uhm, others.
I meant with regards to 'dumbing down' (if i didnt, how would franchises ever get fans in the first place if they couldnt ever get fans?)...Cod4, NSMB, and MM9 didnt really dumb down.
And I'd argue on the Mass Effect 2 front, i loved the game but imo it was dumbed down quite alot and in general the game was of a lower standard than the first.
 

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Wait, what? I'm confused. Are we judging a game that we don't know anything about yet already?

Although some people had similar reactions to this as well when Bioware announced that they were making a Star Wars MMORPG based off of KOTOR.
 

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Ilikemilkshake said:
SuperMse said:
Ilikemilkshake said:
dissapointing but hopefully it will bring new people to the franchise without actually diluting the quality... although ive yet to see a game actually accomplish that
CoD 4, New Super Mario Bros. (both of em'), Mega Man 9, Mass Effect 2 and, uhm, others.
I meant with regards to 'dumbing down' (if i didnt, how would franchises ever get fans in the first place if they couldnt ever get fans?)...Cod4, NSMB, and MM9 didnt really dumb down.
And I'd argue on the Mass Effect 2 front, i loved the game but imo it was dumbed down quite alot and in general the game was of a lower standard than the first.
Oh. I thought that maybe you meant that, but I decided to list some games that had attracted new people to various franchises without dumbing down or diluting quality. You know, games that did it the right way.

That said, we shouldn't be afraid of change. But it's obvious when a change to a game is just some executive mandated bullcrap as opposed to something that actually helps the title.
 

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Seriously?
you cried a little?,grow up you fucking loser.

Making it more accessible does not = waah waah we're giving him and afro and changing the voice actor to 50 cent.

It just means they're polishing the game (the hitman games have always been a bit wonky)so what exactly is the problem?
Good god people,get your fucking heads straight.
 

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SuperMse said:
Ilikemilkshake said:
SuperMse said:
Ilikemilkshake said:
dissapointing but hopefully it will bring new people to the franchise without actually diluting the quality... although ive yet to see a game actually accomplish that
CoD 4, New Super Mario Bros. (both of em'), Mega Man 9, Mass Effect 2 and, uhm, others.
I meant with regards to 'dumbing down' (if i didnt, how would franchises ever get fans in the first place if they couldnt ever get fans?)...Cod4, NSMB, and MM9 didnt really dumb down.
And I'd argue on the Mass Effect 2 front, i loved the game but imo it was dumbed down quite alot and in general the game was of a lower standard than the first.
Oh. I thought that maybe you meant that, but I decided to list some games that had attracted new people to various franchises without dumbing down or diluting quality. You know, games that did it the right way.

That said, we shouldn't be afraid of change. But it's obvious when a change to a game is just some executive mandated bullcrap as opposed to something that actually helps the title.
When i said 'dissapointing but hopefully it will bring new people to the franchise without actually diluting the quality.'

The 'it' i was refering to was the changes that are being made, i should have been more clear xD

I hope that these changes do make it more accessible like Cod did, but doesnt actually 'dumb down'... because to dumb down is basically just saying people are too stupid nowadays to play the old hitman games, which is a bit patronising
 

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As a long time fan that article actually makes me half happy, half concerned. The formula was great but the AI needed work as did the trial and error structure.

I love IO as a developer. but WHAT did they release after Square before!?



They managed to fuck up a chase thriller across shanghai with two of the most interesting characters in recent memory going right down the shitter...


consider me terrified that they've gone mental over at IO...

DON'T YOU DARE RUIN MY PRECIOUS HITMAN!
 

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So the Hitman series is ruined because the developers announced that they were going to make the game "more accessible" in ways that are currently unspecified so that they can reach a broader audience and potentially make more money in the long run?

[HEADING=1]FOR SHAME!!![/HEADING]

Seriously, unless if these changes involve changing the gameplay into a twisted hybrid of Tetris, Total War, and Enter the Matrix and turning 47 into a retarded purple splooge donkey, I'm pretty sure we don't have anything to worry about.

The lesson of the day children:

Don't fear or pass judgement on shit you don't fully understand or have any control over.
 

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The constant reference to cinematics really isn't reassuring when you see it's a Square Enix game.
 

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On the one hand it's a good thing that they make it more accesible, because more people will buy the game, and that increases chances of even MORE Hitman games, which is brilliant.

But I really hope they don't dumb it down for good, or make even the hardest difficulty easier than it used to be... The difficulty was the great thing about the Hitman games !

I miss Hitman... I'll go play Bloodmoney now.. or Silent Assassin.
 

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Since Hitman has always been something of an "unusual puzzle game" to me, I'm not entirely bothered. Heck, they could have lock-on aiming and still keep the heart of the gameplay. Just make it so I can still complete a mission with only 1 kill: My target.
 

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Since the Hitman games were one of the first things I played during my transition into PC gaming, I'm definitely a hardcore fan.

I'm not going to say this is a bad thing, this whole dumbing down, because I don't know what the final product's going to be. I'd rather keep my hopes high for a good, improved game, without speculating and just building up a temper :p

Have faith, 47 Followers!
 

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Psycho-Toaster said:
I'm just happy there's going to be another one. I'm not going to be so quick to judge it and pull out the "YOU DUMBED IT DOWN" cannon, I'll wait until I've played it, or at least seen some gameplay footage.
Pretty much what I wanted to say, yea! Now I know there's another game coming, I can sleep easy :D
 

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I don't mind there being a new engine. I've always found the engine to be a bit clumsy, especially when it came to shooting.

It's the 'broader audience' bit that bothers me. That's what the movie tried to do. Look how that turned out.

(I admit, I haven't seen it, but I saw explosions and un-silenced weaponry in the trailer. THAT'S NOT AGENT 47.)
 

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Well i'm tired of these people who go on teh webs and complain about shit they dont know about. It's 1 article, 1 poorly written article. There is no gameplay whatsoever, so it might still be a damn good game.
 

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Today I cried a little after reading this interview.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/new-game-engine-brings-hitman-absolution-to-the-masses/

Why do they have to go and fuck up one of the best gaming series of all time. I can already see the dumbed down version with quicktime events and fancy animated action scenes... The staying true to "hardcore fans" is probably an option that turns off the "tooltips".

Don't they understand the whole charm of the previous hitman games was the fucking difficulty level and the fact that you had to figure out pretty much everything yourself.... FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
You do realize it might still be really good. Calm down.
 

Neverhoodian

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Let's not fall victim to the following tropes so early in the game's development cycle:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheyChangedItNowItSucks

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuinedFOREVER


I personally haven't played any of the Hitman games, but I think this is a bit premature. At least wait until a gameplay video has been released.