Racist against....whites?

[Smudge91]

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The word Muslim comes from I think Arabic meaning to submit or "Taslim". And the way I see it, to be submissive makes you on a lower ranking than if you were arrogant(Like me).
BTW, protesting is not a religeon, it's a way of life, how dare you bag all the non catholic christians as protesters.

Oh my days you really are an idiot. You don't know what a protestant is. Tut tut. Go to school and go to a lesson called history then go to the 16th Century and looks up something called the spanish inquisiton.
There are either catholics or protestants and protestants then fracture of into many groups.

 

[geon106]

This whole thread is based on the fraudulent premise that it is actually socially acceptable for American non-whites to be racist.

It's not.

If you're a person with any kind of power, racist stuff is just as socially unacceptable as it is for a white person. Look at how much everyone scrutinized every comment made by Obama or Sotomayor for signs of racial bias, for example.

Americans just casually ignore racism when it comes from non-whites they perceive as powerless because, well, they think it doesn't matter because, y'know, they're powerless. Society is all about ignoring the powerless. (Now, individually powerless whites still get a wary eye because they have the numbers to be a dangerous mass movement.)


The word Muslim comes from I think Arabic meaning to submit or "Taslim". And the way I see it, to be submissive makes you on a lower ranking than if you were arrogant(Like me).
BTW, protesting is not a religeon, it's a way of life, how dare you bag all the non catholic christians as protesters.

Protestent isn't a protest. Protestent IS a religion. Even an American would know that!

 

[Soxafloppin]

Its like being sexist againts men, Impossible.

 

[Spacelord]

Racism against white people is accepted because, damnit, we deserve it.

 

[TheRundownRabbit]

You can be racist against white people
we define racism as the mental or physical abuse of a person because of their race.
And caucasian is a race
We just don't punish racism towards whites because of that damned affirmitive action

 

[Sigel]

Everyone has been horrible to everyone else. I hate to break it to you but not one race of people is innocent of some horrible act. Everyone has enslaved, persecuted, raped, and/or killed everyone else, white people are not the only ones who have done this. I personally think racism of any person is stupid, inane, and repulsive.

Edit-More Topic Wise- I personally weary of "white guilt" and think the whole concept is stupid. I am a grandchild of immigrants whose relatives didn't even some to this country until sometime after 1910, and yet I have this stupid concept shoved down my throat.

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

Ahh I see, because the context of this thread only applies to the United States. Good save there Alex, I thought this thread might be broad enough to encourage a lack of such generalisations because racism varies between context(countries), but then thankfully you came in with authority to allow further flames by limiting the discussion to one societies racism. Bravo.

I'm going to go ahead and make an assumption that the majority of people posting slavery related posts are in fact American. While his statement shouldn't limit the amount of countries down to one, he's probably still addressing the majority.

That is precisely my problem, I feel he believes he is directing the conversation in the correct manner when he is infact hurtling it towards the wrong path. We should not head down the path of personal experiences, case studies or vindications; this thread was created with the purpose of discussing the issue of reverse racism or excuse racism. Rather than directing this thread towards commenting on the notion and its entailements I feel he is forcing the idea of proof. Why am I even trying, this thread has so much mod all over it if I say more I will be immediately viewed as a menace of some sort. I'm not here to make enemies but I fail to see how his view of the issue and perceptions of the thread should be foreshadowing the discussion.

I do understand, but I do feel that the way this thread started was pretty wrong, it kind of started with the whole "Why is it when white people do this it's wrong, but when black people do it it's right?" and because of that, it pretty much started down the wrong path, it was far gone before Alex even started methinks. A discussion about "reverse racism" (which, IMO is racism in itself to try and say that racism only goes one way) could have had a much better opening statement, than simply pointing the finger and going from there, which opened up Pandora's box, so to speak (like these threads always do).

Either way, I think that while perhaps it wasn't entirely right for Alex to word it like that, considering the state of the thread as is, I think it's appropriate.

 

[Alex_P]

dude, thats not what my post is about at all. its about how someone thinks that just because my great ansestors owned slaves i should be punished.
kinda like its paybact or something.

Dude, your post is a three-liner about how "who gives a shit" if a black man is racist towards whites. The first mention of slavery at all is from someone else. Your only mention of slavery is right here, in post 219, seven pages into the thread.

-- Alex

 

[Lord Thodin]

Well thats easy. Cause whites might be the minority in number, we arent the minority in power.

 

[Alex_P]

Ahh I see, because the context of this thread only applies to the United States. Good save there Alex, I thought this thread might be broad enough to encourage a lack of such generalisations because racism varies between context(countries), but then thankfully you came in with authority to allow further flames by limiting the discussion to one societies racism. Bravo.

You're right -- answering the question in terms of America is restricting it. That's what the majority of the posts in the preceding pages are doing, too, though, by using the phrase "African Americans" or focusing on slavery. I was originally, y'know, responding to that.

Rather than directing this thread towards commenting on the notion and its entailements I feel he is forcing the idea of proof.

Where's the benefit in talking about a social issue on the basis of a set of misunderstandings?

-- Alex

P.S. Privileged as fuck. Have fun with it!

 

[Meemaimoh]

Of course you're right, Alex. There's no way that racism against white people is any more okay than racism against anyone else.

I was in a racial minority at high school. I'm a white girl and I was surrounded by Asians. Most of these girls were very cool about it, and it actually ended up being a fantastic experience, since I got to engage in things like festivals with them and I learnt a lot about their various cultures. But there was one girl who was, I don't know, resentful that I was friends with a lot of Asians? When I should have stuck with the other white girls? Idk.

Anyway, she was horrible to me for most of high school. At various points she spread rumours about me (after the first couple, everyone ignored her) and generally treated me pretty poorly. It hurt. So yeah, I got a taste of why racism isn't okay, no matter who it's directed to, of from whom. I was just lucky that the rest of my Asian friends were so supportive.

Having said that, I can't imagine what it must be like to have to put up with that when living as a minority for your entire life. I can kind of understand why it's seen as "worse" for a white person to do it, and it has nothing to do with history - white people are at an advantage to begin with, and rather than starting a problem for the other races, chances are they're compounding one. On the other hand, if someone is racist toward a white person, it's more than likely only adding to what self-inflicted white guilt has achieved.

That doesn't make the individual act of racism against white people any less horrible than vice versa. It just makes the overall effect less profound.

 

[frenchtoast1337]

I didnt mean it like that. I meant that they complain about using "stereotypes" when they them selves are a LIVING stereotype. I think that people should just drop the whole stereotype thing because I have never seen a non stereotypical person! I am not trying to be racist here, so please dont take my comments the wrong way. I a just voicing my opinion.

 

[murlo360]

So, even if white people did something in the past, everyone should be equal now. So, if everyone is equal, then why is racism accepted? It doesn't matter who is racist to who: We are all equal, right?

im black and personally i think black people need to forget about the past this slavery &segregation happened a longtime ago and there still bitching about it come on thats just abusing the cause. they also use the word (i dont like saying this word) cracker or pancake on TV but when some one who is Caucasian goes on and says(i dont like saying this word)****** ohh there going to cause a big fit about that. so both words should be illegal because thats Verbal assault.

 

[thewerebuffalo]

No, white people just enslaved other white people for a longer period of time, before enslaving a black person ever came into the picture.

but did they enslave them because they were white? no? then they weren't being racist.

there are peoples grandfathers and grandmothers who were segregated and threatened and beaten because they were black you can't just get rid of that by saying, it wasn't us, it wasn't our fault

 

[Lukirre]

If we had a white version of the Million Man March, we'd be gunned down in a heartbeat.
If we advertised "White Pride!" as opposed to "Black Pride!", we'd be gunned down.
If we had White Entertainment Magazine, we'd be gunned down.
If we had Miss White America, we'd be gunned down.
If a white comedian made fun of black people in place of black comedians making fun of white people, well...you get it.

I'm going to say what has been said before about the whole "slavery" business.
Claiming that your grandfather's grandfather was enslaved and therefore you deserve accomadations is absolute bullshit.

I tell you what.
Show me how long it is that you, yourself, spent as a slave in your lifetime.
Prove you me that you truly understand the hardships that society gave you, rather than just leeching off of those who truly suffered.
Then I will say "Okay, maybe you do deserve elevated freedoms".

It's all about revenge.

Feminist extremists (KEY TERM) don't want a society where women and men are truly equal, they want a matriarchal society.

Same thing here.

 

[Rawker]

...And Justice for All.

You're quoting the Metallica album or do you think it's funny to add nothing to the conversation but a few words that I'm assuming you think are ironic?

little bit of both. i find it funny that their cry for justice is now reversed, and i think metallica said it best.