Im not a racist but im just saying when ever someone tells me a white joke i laugh but when a black guy hears a black joke they get all up in my grill (n' stuff)
Not entirely true. The AMERICAN whites oppressed those people, but now all whites are being racism-ed. So all the European whites have to put up with "bird-shit" and "white bread"Armored Prayer said:Well considering whites were racist and done horrible things towards:
Native Americans
Blacks
Asians
Latinos
Middle easterners
Hindus
Jews
and even their own women. (You know not having any civil rights and all)
I can see why being ignorant towards them is acceptable.
Edit: Ok this came out wrong. Lets just say that this was all in the past, I mean no offence, and that all forms of racism is wrong.
And there we have it. There don't need to be five more pages of people missing the point, the point being that the OP is wrong, and at this point you're just stirring the pot.Alex_P said:This whole thread is based on the fraudulent premise that it is actually socially acceptable for American non-whites to be racist.
It's not.
If you're a person with any kind of power, racist stuff is just as socially unacceptable as it is for a white person. Look at how much everyone scrutinized every comment made by Obama or Sotomayor for signs of racial bias, for example.
Americans just casually ignore racism when it comes from non-whites they perceive as powerless because, well, they think it doesn't matter because, y'know, they're powerless. Society is all about ignoring the powerless. (Now, individually powerless whites still get a wary eye because they have the numbers to be a dangerous mass movement.)
-- Alex
No, white people just enslaved other white people for a longer period of time, before enslaving a black person ever came into the picture.thewerebuffalo said:because white people weren't subjected to a couple hundred years of slavery under black people. doesn't mean I like it though
Maybe the whole slavery thing and the many years of racism could have had something to do with it? Other than that, I got nothing.ninonybox360 said:why is it a big deal if a white man is racist to a black man
but if a black man is racist to a white man its like "who gives a shit"
This is basically the basis for the whole thing, but I would vote to wait a couple of generations so there's no-one around who's parents were personally involved in the whole slavery thing, then perhaps it would be easier to get over the whole thing - less real stigma, more a 'traditional' thing. Of course, that could be equally difficult to get over, but meh...Xojins said:Probably because the segregation only ended about 50 years ago, while slavery and racism were rampant for hundreds of years. Many of the arguments from white people I know basically boil down to: "Oh, that's all in the past and we don't agree with it and have apologized for it, so you're not allowed to be mad about it anymore." I think it's rather stupid.
There's no such thing. But if you mean those short facts about blonds that people usually laugh at...no, they're not racist.ThePeiceOfEden said:Blonde jokes are racist?
Yeah, but, see, everyone's just going to read the first dozen posts and then add their own one-liner to the thread without reading it anyway, and the circlejerk of I-don't-really-get-it-but-I-have-an-opinion will continue until people get bored and the thread falls off the front page and then two weeks later someone -- who may well be someone who posted to this thread already -- starts another thread based on the same misconception. Just like those political correctness threads that are full of people who don't realize that "political correctness" is a constructed strawman and not a real social movement.ChromeAlchemist said:Oh god, really? I was just about to get typing when I saw Mr P above me say:And there we have it. There don't need to be five more pages of people missing the point, the point being that the OP is wrong, and at this point you're just stirring the pot.Alex_P said:This whole thread is based on the fraudulent premise that it is actually socially acceptable for American non-whites to be racist.
It's not.
If you're a person with any kind of power, racist stuff is just as socially unacceptable as it is for a white person. Look at how much everyone scrutinized every comment made by Obama or Sotomayor for signs of racial bias, for example.
Americans just casually ignore racism when it comes from non-whites they perceive as powerless because, well, they think it doesn't matter because, y'know, they're powerless. Society is all about ignoring the powerless. (Now, individually powerless whites still get a wary eye because they have the numbers to be a dangerous mass movement.)
-- Alex
Everything you say here is so very true, I hate the whole women can bash men but men cant bash woman, its complete bullshit! It goes the same way for blacks to white and vise-versa.somedude98 said:Its the same with sexism im afraid. Listen to "if i were a boy". All it does is slag off the male gender. You know what would happen if i slagged off the female gender in a song? i would be beaten in the street and i would never be able to leave my house again. This is an issue i hate so goddam much. No one gives a shit if you insult someone for being iether male or white. Yay for the one way system of racism. Then theres the N word. The N word when said by a white guy is the most horrible thing ever imaginable and he/she should be burned alive for even thinking of writing an artical in which it is said by their sister. When a coloured person says it its a friendly greeting. EH?! WTF is this? If white people made a word that no coloured (im being more racially diverse here) could say, people would be outraged.
Im not racist, i believe in equality... for EVERYONE. I think my fellow man should be more open to us now. We are brothers and the horrible past of our ancestors is gone. Real racists should be punished. People who spread actual hate, not people who make some joke that they dont even actualy mean.
A great man said "when someone tells a joke about someone else and they both laugh, the world will be a better place". Thats my ethos on this topic, no one has any justification to insult anyone because of race.
Im basically asking for insults here because of my first paragraph but i am not racist in the slightest. If you want to insult me because you are super paranoid about racism like all of todays people then go ahead. I dont want to offend anyone and everything i say is in no way meant to be offencive. (This boils down to safety basically)
EDIT: I agree that we are not downtrodden, groups today still persecute other races and i find this far worse than the occasional jibe in my direction. I just want these jibes to work both ways.
Nimbus said:I think we may have gotten a wee bit carried away with it in the past, if you know what I mean.
Nimbus said:I think we may have gotten a wee bit carried away with it in the past, if you know what I mean.
I'm almost certain this has been pointed out but ... racism is racism. Doesn't matter who it's from and directed to. That we treated black people poorly in the past is NO justification for us to be treated poorly now. If the bastards who did the mis-treatment are still alive, by all means, punish them as they deserve.thewerebuffalo said:because white people weren't subjected to a couple hundred years of slavery under black people. doesn't mean I like it though