Racist against....whites?
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Yeah, the Chinese have totally gotten over that little scrap with Japan. Not like they have massive anti-Japanese riots every now and then or anything.hoopyfrood said:
Also, do actually you know when segregation was ended?
HINT: later than the last World War
Pretty much all groups in the past felt that they were the best and everyone else was beneath them. The Japanese and the Chinese (the ones IN japan and china, I mean. The ones who are raised outside the country don't seem so prone to it) seem to hate and despise each other, but no one calls them out on it. The idea that only white people are racist or that white people invented racism is stupid. Look at the Black Panther party, I mean they are probably worse than the KKK as far as motives go. Look at what they are preaching http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1vbwc_blackhitler_politics.
In any case, the only reason that people are taught to hate a specific group of people is for political gain. Hitler did it so he could take over Germany (and eventually the world, supposedly), the KKK did it to ensure that their communities remained conservative (although seeing brown people as inferior being probably had something to do with it), Mao Ze Tong did to Capitalists so he wouldn't be contested (gotta mix in some non-whites somewhere).
As humans, we automatically try and find patterns so we can understand the world around us, ie fire is hot, that thing tastes good, etc etc. When europeans found a group of people that are technologically and sociologically millennia behind them without any anomalies, do you think that it's any surprise that they thought of them as a lesser people? It may not be ethical, but it's just how we humans think. All we can hope to do is try and not apply that thought process to people and start thinking that skin color correlates to behavior.
In any case, the only reason that people are taught to hate a specific group of people is for political gain. Hitler did it so he could take over Germany (and eventually the world, supposedly), the KKK did it to ensure that their communities remained conservative (although seeing brown people as inferior being probably had something to do with it), Mao Ze Tong did to Capitalists so he wouldn't be contested (gotta mix in some non-whites somewhere).
As humans, we automatically try and find patterns so we can understand the world around us, ie fire is hot, that thing tastes good, etc etc. When europeans found a group of people that are technologically and sociologically millennia behind them without any anomalies, do you think that it's any surprise that they thought of them as a lesser people? It may not be ethical, but it's just how we humans think. All we can hope to do is try and not apply that thought process to people and start thinking that skin color correlates to behavior.
I think that this argument became void when the last person to ever legally own a slave breathed their last breath. I didn't own a slave, my dad didn't own a slave, and my grandpa didn't own a slave. In fact, I doubt anybody in my family tree has ever owned a slave seeing as we don't exactly come from the wealthiest line. I'll just say what everybody says to the dumbass redneck who whines about how the south should have won:"It was over a hundred fucking years ago"thewerebuffalo said:
There is never an excuse for racism no matter what color your skin is. And yes there is a double standard in our society today. Is it fair? No, but it's there and will be there for many years to come and it's there because it's still rather fresh in history. Sure if you wanted to be technical you could say Anglo Saxxons were enslaved by the tiny Italian men from Rome and Muslims from the eastern empires but they happened so long ago they are not remembered. That will eventually happen with America's past as well. As the saying goes "Time heals all wounds".
Edit: And oh this is coming from a 100% full blooded Puerto Rican, just in case someone decides to throw out the "your defending your own race" arguement I've heard before.
Edit: And oh this is coming from a 100% full blooded Puerto Rican, just in case someone decides to throw out the "your defending your own race" arguement I've heard before.
This pretty much sums it up.scotth266 said:
Actually, I would get pretty pissed at anyone of any colour for trying to be racist to me, regardless of my own colour.
Wanna be racist and then justify it by the actions of dead men? Fuck you.
Wanna be racist and then justify it by the actions of dead men? Fuck you.
Suggesting that "we" owe people of a certain skin colour something is actually pretty damn racist...KingTeabag said:
I did nothing involving slavery.
Throughout history every nation was a slave and a master at some point in their history.
The Israelites had slaves for a time.
Roman's enslaved.
Egyptians enslaved.
African tribes enslaved.
Mexican's enslaved (Mayans, or was it Inca?)
Native Americans probably enslaved each other at different points.
We should just forget the past. There are no American's who have been forced to work in the cotton fields for a good few generations now. I honestly wish Americans would just drop the whole thing. Everyone agree to just be normal without any 'guilt'. Differences are differences and they mean nothing to me inside or outside a person. We're all human. Thanks to the internet we've never been closer to one another. We shouldn't treat anyone nicer because someone who looked like them was once in chains, nor should we treat them any worse because of it.
The Israelites had slaves for a time.
Roman's enslaved.
Egyptians enslaved.
African tribes enslaved.
Mexican's enslaved (Mayans, or was it Inca?)
Native Americans probably enslaved each other at different points.
We should just forget the past. There are no American's who have been forced to work in the cotton fields for a good few generations now. I honestly wish Americans would just drop the whole thing. Everyone agree to just be normal without any 'guilt'. Differences are differences and they mean nothing to me inside or outside a person. We're all human. Thanks to the internet we've never been closer to one another. We shouldn't treat anyone nicer because someone who looked like them was once in chains, nor should we treat them any worse because of it.
Because I am responsible for the crimes of my ancestors even though I've never met them and don't condone their actions and am totally different from them.
Therefore racism against me and other whites is obviously just retribution.
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Therefore racism against me and other whites is obviously just retribution.
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That's ridiculous, there are races, you can't claim they don't exist simply because you don't want them to. There are real, testable, genetic differences between races. However, they're not the type of differences that Racist people imagine. For example, saying all black people like watermelon is ridiculous and racist. But saying that white people are more likely to get skin cancer isn't racist, it's true.chstens said:
Let me give you an example of what you're saying.
"We should abolish the idea of different sexes. There is no male or female, we are all under the category of human. Such words as he and she should be eliminated from the english language. This will help eliminate sexism."
Or how about this?
"Great danes and chihuahuas are both dogs, and there should be no distinctions made between the two."
Can you see now how ridiculous it would be to get rid of the concept of races? That is not to say that racism is right, it is very, very wrong. I would say that racists have a mild form of mental retardation preventing them from thinking critically. Just because blacks and whites have different skin cancer probabilities doesn't mean they should be treated differently on a societal level. They are both capable of full complex reasoning and emotions; they're both human on a basic level. Anyone that applies enough thought to it should come to that conclusion.
Hmm... rambling is fun ^..^
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Amen.2012 Wont Happen said:
Most people take equality for granted. They think it's something we're owed. But it's not. It's something you have to work for, to fight for, and most people I come across just don't seem to get it. Because of our history, white men and to a lesser extent white women are often regarded as less worthy for equal treatment. We all fall victim to this belief regardless of our race, gender or religion. It's not our fault, it's just the mindset that's been built up over the years. It's why that, for the most part, someone will call out a white guy for being racist and support the black women who may in fact be solely motivated by nothing but racism.
I'm glad for the fact that I'll be long dead in a hundred years when muslims are the dominant race/religion. I won't be subject to the worldwide white enslavement movement XD
I'm glad for the fact that I'll be long dead in a hundred years when muslims are the dominant race/religion. I won't be subject to the worldwide white enslavement movement XD
racism ain't going away even if all the world suddenly went to heaven.
I know of Indians in India... southern Indians has some real bad views/ideas of northerners and vice versa. In America we got blacks that treat blacks fine but other colors like second or third class citizens. And the reverse is seen to happen. It's weird. Almost like people need to feel good by tromping on another.
I know of Indians in India... southern Indians has some real bad views/ideas of northerners and vice versa. In America we got blacks that treat blacks fine but other colors like second or third class citizens. And the reverse is seen to happen. It's weird. Almost like people need to feel good by tromping on another.
Once again another idealism gone wrong. Yes, lets back ourselves into a corner so that when we make some joke about black people we're monsters. But if a black person makes a joke about whitey, we have to take it, becauuse it's "racist" to backchat them. But lets face it, we made it happen, so there is nothing to be done about it. We allowed the few people who want to abuse the people who slaves them 200 years ago to insult them. Least we let them free.
And that's very well put. It is kind of depressing, to be honest. And I can see why people skimming over comments and not observing your explanation of where this thread went wrong is irritating.Alex_P said:
Pardon?Daveman said:
And that's very well put as well. I...don't have much more to say than that.nilcypher said: