"Racist" (or something) Superbowl commercial

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Unesh52

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On the hall here in my dorm, there was some discussion about what the best super bowl commercial was. Since I didn't watch the game, I just looked up the ads people were talking about on YouTube. Probably my favorite was the Pepsi Max one:


The last scene was completely unexpected; the sudden shift in tone, combined with the notable schadenfreude, really made me laugh. That's when I noticed the comments section lighting up with accusations of racism. The argument I could pick out most clearly was that is was because the black woman had hit a white woman in the head, and to paint that as humorous was racist (and I'm not even sure which race was being marginalized). But you know, I just thought, Eh, YouTube, and went on my way.

Then tonight I was channel surfing and I landed on The O'Reilly Factor to find that they were talking about the same thing! Not only that, but it turns out that the reason they cared or even knew about it was because a member of Congress took the floor for a minute to ***** talk about it. Here's the footage from the proceedings:


The Congresswoman actually didn't say that much about it being racist; instead, she said it "showed a demeaning role for African American women." She did however, very pedantically state the race of each person involved in the last scene, thereby attributing some kind of importance to it, which is probably where the race thing came from. The lady on Fox arguing that the ad was racist primarily tried to show that this was just a single instance of a long history of pop media portraying black women as "battle axe," or in some other negative light. I just went back to the YouTube page to check out what was happening there, and the new argument is that it's a sick joke trivializing spousal abuse.

1) The race of the actors had very little to do with the content of the ad. This becomes clear if you imagine the ad with actors of a different race. It still makes sense, doesn't it? The only racial stereotypes that are even plausible here are a) black women are hard asses, and b) black dudes like white women. However, the "controlling wife" trope exists independently of race, and no race specific variation of that is apparent (for instance, the head jerk/finger wag accompanied by "oh no you di-ehn!"). The "man gets in trouble for checking out ladies" trope also exists independently of race, and since he did not single the white one out of a group of black alternatives, there's no reason to suspect the scene is playing on the stereotype that black men like white women.

2) The "abuse" the wife perpetrates on the husband consists of a) kicking him under the table at a restaurant, b) pushing his face in a cream pie, and c) replacing a burger he was about to bite with a bar of soap. The first is hardly abuse, the second is a play on classic humor (pie in face... come on, this is loony toons stuff), and the third was just because he was hiding in the bathroom to eat his fried food. You could count the incomplete can to the head as an example of "real" abuse if pressed, but since it was intended for another purpose, that's a bit of a stretch. More convincing is the idea that she's being controlling and/or psychologically abusive because she's forcing him to eat healthily. That's wrong though, because it's obviously an exaggeration of the pressure to be fit and healthy wives put on their husbands intended for comedic effect. All of these are conventions of slapstick and comedic hyperbole. To condemn this is to condemn the Three Stooges for asserting that all men in groups are thugs.

3) Even if it were the case that the image of the black female is being twisted due to an implied stereotype perpetuated by mass media, that does not make specific instances of the image in media individually culpable for the entire phenomenon, and certainly not one 30 second commercial to the exclusion of thousands of instances of movies, sitcoms, other commercials, images, books, games, and other miscellaneous media. Frankly, if you want to assert that popular media is perpetuating an offensive stereotype of blacks, especially black woman, for comedic effect, look no further than Big Mommas [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1464174/]. Or for blacks generally, anything by Tyler Perry. Or Chris Rock.

4) While I'm sure she found plenty of people willing to complain about the ad during the 6 and a half hours she was waiting for her stylist to finish her hair, this was probably not a big concern of the people who elected her to office. In fact, I'm almost certain no one who was sitting there watching her speak leaped up afterward, brimming with a sense of duty and demanding reparations for this hateful ad. And that's sad, because if it really had been offensive, that might have given them something to do in place of the jobs that none of them have. It may have only been a minute, but it's a minute that speaks boundlessly about her priorities as an elected official.

If you found this ad offensive, please, do tell me why. Because I'm strapped for a half-decent reason. And really, how can an esteemed member of Congress be so reactionary? In Congress. On the floor.

EDIT: Poll failed. Are the codemonkeys at the Escapist working on this yet? They should be.

EDIT 2: I want to respond to the defense that it was an "accident" again. The problem isn't that the wife character was a racist in the ad, it's that the writing was racist. Its jokes are based on a racial stereotype and a white woman getting beaned by a black woman.

That is to say, that's the argument. I've pretty succinctly called bullshit on that line of reasoning though.
 

MellowFellow

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I do think it is weird people would find it racist. I saw the ad as just another ad where the girlfriend is mad her boyfriend was looking at another girl.
 

Spade Lead

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It struck me as funny precisely BECAUSE the act of striking the white woman would be considered a hate crime. It didn't strike me as racist, just funnier than shit.

Every race has women that would do that, and the fact that it was a black woman in the commercial means that we CAN portray them that way, that we aren't handling the race issue with gloves any more, which means they have come a long way towards earning equality.

In my opinion.
 

maddawg IAJI

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Its not racist and I don't see how exactly it can be taken that way. The woman accidentally hit a white jogger when attempting to take her frustrations out on her husband for looking at other woman, how is that racist? Its a common joke among sitcoms that feature couples. A person's skin color doesn't play a role in their actions.

You could have replaced the couple with any other race, it would not have made a difference.
 

Redratson

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There is no way a person is THAT freaking stupid. In no way did this ad display racism. It showed a couple with a up tight wife, and very jelous one, and a normal joe of a husband. That woman probably wanted some attention.
 

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Here in Southern Louisiana I've formulated a racism test:

-If it was meant with hate or meant to hurt/bash someone and their race then it's racist.
-If you look at a normal situation and -needlessly- see race being involved when it really isn't, then THAT'S racism.

Commercial = Not Racist
Congresswoman = Racist
 

Lilani

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So now it is demeaning for women (and particularly African-American women, apparently) to be in a standard relationship with a man, and reacting "violently" if the man has a wandering eye?

As a woman, the only thing that offends me here is the way this woman is besmirching the name of women's rights. There are plenty of legitimate cases regarding sexism out there, but the only ones that get headlines are these piles of irrelevant nonsense. It's insulting. This woman is making a mockery out of legitimate cases that actually require justice. She should never be elected again. She is only degrading the credibility of herself and those she whom claims to represent.
 

Dr Snakeman

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How in the HELL is this racist? I mean... god...

I guess some people are idiots. Nothing really new, just people bitching about racism when there is none.

By the way, thanks for the video, it was hilarious.
 

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While the commercial was a bit... mean-spirited at the end there, it was in no way racist.

It was kinda sudden and jarring. Didn't mesh up with the rest of the commercial. But racist? lol, no. It wasn't wasn't about a black woman striking a white woman. It was about a wife trying to strike angrily at her husband.
 

Dags90

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I wouldn't consider it racist, but I would consider a stereotyped representation of black women as being aggressive and obstinate partners. Just because there's the Jewish mother stereotype runs parallel to stereotypes about overbearing Italian mothers doesn't make it less stereotyped.
 

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Wait, wait, wait. People actually think it's racist? I don't see anything wrong with it. I guess people are just too eager to make claims of racism.
 

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Lonewolfu571 said:
Here in Southern Louisiana I've formulated a racism test:

-If it was meant with hate or meant to hurt/bash someone and their race then it's racist.
-If you look at a normal situation and -needlessly- see race being involved when it really isn't, then THAT'S racism.

Commercial = Not Racist
Congresswoman = Racist
I like it. I like you. I'll use your racism test from now on to judge things that look like gray areas.

I think the script for this ad could have been written without mentioning the race of anyone involved, which is another good way to demonstrate that something isn't racist.
 

SnootyEnglishman

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Um..that was supposed to be accidental. If you look closely the woman saw her man giving googly eyes to another woman and the can was meant to hit him. Acting in defense the man ducked and the projectile just happened to hit the Caucasian Female. It was all mere coincidence and nothing more. To accuse it of racism is just silly.
 

minespatch

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The commercial was funny and seemed like a normal commercial for me.

That congresswoman however made me squint my eyes due to the stupidity I heard. Did she miss the point of the commercial? :|
 

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summerof2010 said:
On the hall here in my dorm, there was some discussion about what the best super bowl commercial was. Since I didn't watch the game, I just looked up the ads people were talking about on YouTube. Probably my favorite was the Pepsi Max one:


The last scene was completely unexpected; the sudden shift in tone, combined with the notable schadenfreude, really made me laugh. That's when I noticed the comments section lighting up with accusations of racism. The argument I could pick out most clearly was that is was because the black woman had hit a white woman in the head, and to paint that as humorous was racist (and I'm not even sure which race was being marginalized). But you know, I just thought, Eh, YouTube, and went on my way.

Then tonight I was channel surfing and I landed on The O'Reilly Factor to find that they were talking about the same thing! Not only that, but it turns out that the reason they cared or even knew about it was because a member of Congress took the floor for a minute to ***** talk about it. Here's the footage from the proceedings:


The Congresswoman actually didn't say that much about it being racist; instead, she said it "showed a demeaning role for African American women." She did however, very pedantically state the race of each person involved in the last scene, thereby attributing some kind of importance to it, which is probably where the race thing came from. The lady on Fox arguing that the ad was racist primarily tried to show that this was just a single instance of a long history of pop media portraying black women as "battle axe," or in some other negative light. I just went back to the YouTube page to check out what was happening there, and the new argument is that it's a sick joke trivializing spousal abuse.

1) The race of the actors had very little to do with the content of the ad. This becomes clear if you imagine the ad with actors of a different race. It still makes sense, doesn't it? The only racial stereotypes that are even plausible here are a) black women are hard asses, and b) black dudes like white women. However, the "controlling wife" trope exists independently of race, and no race specific variation of that is apparent (for instance, the head jerk/finger wag accompanied by "oh no you di-ehn!"). The "man gets in trouble for checking out ladies" trope also exists independently of race, and since he did not single the white one out of a group of black alternatives, there's no reason to suspect the scene is playing on the stereotype that black men like white women.

2) The "abuse" the wife perpetrates on the husband consists of a) kicking him under the table at a restaurant, b) pushing his face in a cream pie, and c) replacing a burger he was about to bite with a bar of soap. The first is hardly abuse, the second is a play on classic humor (pie in face... come on, this is loony toons stuff), and the third was just because he was hiding in the bathroom to eat his fried food. You could count the incomplete can to the head as an example of "real" abuse if pressed, but since it was intended for another purpose, that's a bit of a stretch. More convincing is the idea that she's being controlling and/or psychologically abusive because she's forcing him to eat healthily. That's wrong though, because it's obviously an exaggeration of the pressure to be fit and healthy wives put on their husbands intended for comedic effect. All of these are conventions of slapstick and comedic hyperbole. To condemn this is to condemn the Three Stooges for asserting that all men in groups are thugs.

3) Even if it were the case that the image of the black female is being twisted due to an implied stereotype perpetuated by mass media, that does not make specific instances of the image in media individually culpable for the entire phenomenon, and certainly not one 30 second commercial to the exclusion of thousands of instances of movies, sitcoms, other commercials, images, books, games, and other miscellaneous media. Frankly, if you want to assert that popular media is perpetuating an offensive stereotype of blacks, especially black woman, for comedic effect, look no further than Big Mommas [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1464174/]. Or for blacks generally, anything by Tyler Perry. Or Chris Rock.

4) While I'm sure she found plenty of people willing to complain about the ad during the 6 and a half hours she was waiting for her stylist to finish her hair, this was probably not a big concern of the people who elected her to office. In fact, I'm almost certain no one who was sitting there watching her speak leaped up afterward, brimming with a sense of duty and demanding reparations for this hateful ad. And that's sad, because if it really had been offensive, that might have given them something to do in place of the jobs that none of them have. It may have only been a minute, but it's a minute that speaks boundlessly about her priorities as an elected official.

If you found this ad offensive, please, do tell me why. Because I'm strapped for a half-decent reason. And really, how can an esteemed member of Congress be so reactionary? In Congress. On the floor.

EDIT: Poll failed. Are the codemonkeys at the Escapist working on this yet? They should be.

It's not racist at all. Race is irrelevant to the issue of the joke involved. It's a joke about men being womanizers and women being jealous nut-bags. If anything, it's sexist, anyone dragging race into it is just playing the race card for attention, or pushing an agenda of some action against "racism" in the media.
 

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I agree, in no way was this racist. You could very easily (like you pointed out) have changed the race of any of the characters and it would have been the same. People are just over-reacting like they have a tendency to do (and in turn marginalizing the real racist events).

And the ironic thing? The fact that people caring so much about race only perpetuates the idea that race is an important difference amongst people. When you stop looking at people's race as anything beyond simple physical characteristics and start judging them by their personality, racism will no longer be an issue. But when you constantly criticize a situation because there are people of different races acting in different ways, you only support the idea of innate differences in race.
 

Plurralbles

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This really upsets me. It's all about intent when it comes to racism. The people making it aren't racist, therefore, the commercial is not racist.

If you can't laugh, then you shouldn't be considered human in some cases.