"Racist" (or something) Superbowl commercial

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BanthaFodder

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I say that the people denouncing this as racist are they themselves racist. they cling to the tiniest thread to keep these stereotypes in the public eye, whereas if they ust dropped it, everyone would either:

A. forget all about it
or
B. just not care about it anymore

so thank you, you "politically correct" douchebags, for helping to keep racism alive...
 

Unesh52

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Xan Krieger said:
I don't like that the pretty girl got hurt but it's not racist, just a hate crime (if you believe in such things).
Uh... dude, hate crimes are racist. That's the quality that makes them hate crimes.
 

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summerof2010 said:
Firstly, congrats on your Avatar. Amazing. I love you. Why didn't I think of that? Holy shit. Mad.

Secondly, I apologize in advance if this sounds like I'm picking on America but every time I hear about racial issues it's from America. Yes yes, the majority will be from America anyway because their media dominates the world. BUT I've noticed that people are so politically correct over there sometimes that they will go out of their way to find something that isn't even close to racist and ***** about it.

If there was a black person complaining that this advertisement was racist... it is known as playing the race-card.

At the end of the day, guess what the funny thing is? Usually the ones who are pointing OUT the racism are actually the racist ones!


Example:
Person #1: Hey look. There's a black guy over there standing next to a white guy.
Person #2: OMG! You're a RACIST!
Person #1: What? But I was just making an observation.
Person #2: And it was about different skin colors! That makes you a racist!

etc...

summerof2010 said:
Xan Krieger said:
I don't like that the pretty girl got hurt but it's not racist, just a hate crime (if you believe in such things).
Uh... dude, hate crimes are racist. That's the quality that makes them hate crimes.
I follow the South Park mentality on 'Hate Crimes'. All crimes, regardless of skin colour, should carry the same penalty. If a white man murders another white man is it not a crime probably instigated by hate?
 

BanthaFodder

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summerof2010 said:
Xan Krieger said:
I don't like that the pretty girl got hurt but it's not racist, just a hate crime (if you believe in such things).
Uh... dude, hate crimes are racist. That's the quality that makes them hate crimes.
actually, unless I am mistaken (and I very well might be), a hate crime is an intentional crime perpetrated mainly for racial/ethnic/regligious/etc reasons. the girl getting hit with the can was an accident, and therefore not a hate crime.
 

Squirrel1328

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Personally i just don't see how it is offensive, and most of all racist, would it be racist if the couple was caucasian?
 

Unesh52

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Javelk said:
I guess Congress Woman Lee was more worried about a Pepsi comercial rather than the problems faceing her constituents. Maybe she would have perfered that the can hit another black woman. Maybe she just wanted to hear herself talk. I'm pretty sure though she's just an idiot.
This comment made me giggle. Can't exactly pin why though.

Naheal said:
Give it another watch and pay attention this time, Mr. Troll.
Hey watch that. No feeding the troll. You'll just make it follow us around all damn day.
 

Naheal

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Jewrean said:
summerof2010 said:
Firstly, congrats on your Avatar. Amazing. I love you. Why didn't I think of that? Holy shit. Mad.

Secondly, I apologize in advance if this sounds like I'm picking on America but every time I hear about racial issues it's from America. Yes yes, the majority will be from America anyway because their media dominates the world. BUT I've noticed that people are so politically correct over there sometimes that they will go out of their way to find something that isn't even close to racist and ***** about it.

If there was a black person complaining that this advertisement was racist... it is known as playing the race-card.

At the end of the day, guess what the funny thing is? Usually the ones who are pointing OUT the racism are actually the racist ones!


Example:
Person #1: Hey look. There's a black guy over there standing next to a white guy.
Person #2: OMG! You're a RACIST!
Person #1: What? But I was just making an observation.
Person #2: And it was about different skin colors! That makes you a racist!

etc...
We're pretty vocal about our past racism and we're more than a little hypersensitive about racism now. Not saying that excuses it, but meh.
 

Naheal

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summerof2010 said:
Javelk said:
I guess Congress Woman Lee was more worried about a Pepsi comercial rather than the problems faceing her constituents. Maybe she would have perfered that the can hit another black woman. Maybe she just wanted to hear herself talk. I'm pretty sure though she's just an idiot.
This comment made me giggle. Can't exactly pin why though.

Naheal said:
Give it another watch and pay attention this time, Mr. Troll.
Hey watch that. No feeding the troll. You'll just make it follow us around all damn day.
You're right. I wouldn't want him coming in on my territory.
 

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Black woman hits white woman: Racist portrayal of black women being violent
Black woman hits black woman: Racist portrayal of black on black violence prevalent in areas where all the white people moved away
White woman hits white woman: Racist due to lack of black people

This is a game where the only winning move is to not play. Or, more appropriately, not care. At all.
 

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BanthaFodder said:
summerof2010 said:
Xan Krieger said:
I don't like that the pretty girl got hurt but it's not racist, just a hate crime (if you believe in such things).
Uh... dude, hate crimes are racist. That's the quality that makes them hate crimes.
actually, unless I am mistaken (and I very well might be), a hate crime is an intentional crime perpetrated mainly for racial/ethnic/regligious/etc reasons. the girl getting hit with the can was an accident, and therefore not a hate crime.
Yes, and it wasn't a hate crime. I just thought it was weirder that he claimed it was a non-racist hate crime than that he called it a hate crime in the first place.

Now that I think about it, hate crimes aren't necessarily about race... so maybe he thought the jogger was a lesbian?

Jewrean said:
Firstly, congrats on your Avatar. Amazing. I love you. Why didn't I think of that? Holy shit. Mad.
:D Thank the guys at the Avatar Store who made it for me. I stumbled onto that scene just browsing random horror flicks on Netflix. Lucky find I guess. Also, you've reminded me that 'mad' is a cool expression.

I've got good feelings happening inside me.

Blitzwing said:
Then you haven?t been paying attention.
Nah, he's just not been down to the Religion and Politics board in a while.
 

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The commercial was written to include: a 30-something wife, a 30-something husband and a hottie in a small, tight workout outfit. It works the same if it's a white couple and a hot asian chick, or an asian couple and a hot black chick, or any combination thereof. Ironically the casting of black actors in the roll of the married couple was most likely done in an attempt at diversity.
 

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In my opinion (I'm fine with the commercial) I can see how some people would see it as racist. Black wife is hard on husband, Husband attracted to white girl, White girl bashed in the head by a pepsi for doing nothing wrong then the black couple make a run for it, and also the thing about the black guy wanting a burger so bad he'd hide in the washroom to eat it. While of course this stuff isn't racist (It's just a joke commercial that could have any race in it), you can KINDA see why someone would find it racist. But at the same time, 'the only people who see racism in harmless things, are the people who WANT it to be racist'. (Which means that you'd have to be racist to find it racist to begin with).
 

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My thoughts on the subject are not going to be popular but here they are:

Racism is pretty much dead in the US, a lot of people will say it's not, and that it's simply much more hidden, etc, etc... or argue all kinds of extended definitions of racism that have little to do with race more than bigotry towards specific cultures and behaviors (which is an entirely differant issue). Perhaps the best example you need of racism being dead as a mainstream phenomena in the US is that we have a Black president, who could not have been elected without support from whites (the ethnic majority). If racism was a major societal force this would not have happened, and what's more there would be no need for it to be "underground".

At any rate, where racism is dead it's still a major political rallying point, ESPECIALLY for minorities that have largely been defining themselves through the battle. As guys like Bill Cosby have pointed out in discussions about education, we're at a time where there is nobody keeping anyone else down, it's the hard part comparitively, where people have to TAKE those oppertunities and go out and become educated. The problems facing groups like black America are subcultures that don't value work and education, but rather conflict, and a "git rich or die trying" attitude about forcing society to conform to your whims, rather than striving to conform to it now that doing so is possible. To the people who don't want to conform to society and just be normal, the idea of an ongoing battle is appealing, it's better to have an enemy to rage against, and an excuse to not follow the rules, than to do your part to fit in. Someone providing that enemy, can thus rally minorities, especially blacks in cases of racism involving them, to their banner because on a lot of levels it's what they want to hear, not the racism but rather an example of societal racism that can be fought. The ethnicity of the person doing the rallying doesn't much matter either, since it's the cause that's important, and the leader pulling it off can always exploit that power base and not just for direct votes. With racism being more or less dead as a mainstream phenomena finding things to rally people around this kind of cause is more difficult. It's a situation where there is no huge conspiricy of secret racists under most bushes, it's just that people don't care in a practical sense, especially not businesses. The threat posed by a few guys in white sheets passing notes in a bayou also isn't the kind of threat that can seriously rally people, as it's just not big enough. On the other hand if someone can spin a commercial like this by trying to make it into something that it's not, but the audience WANTS to see for their own reasons... well that can be a powerful tool.

The point here is that there is nothing at all racist about this commercial, however I think that there is hope that by making enough noise it can be made to SEEM like some kind of racist stereotyping, and outrage about it can be played politically.

In looking at this commercial, like a bunch of other people I really can't see anything that is race specific here, and I'm not sure who is being discriminated against. I mean sure, the wife is a harpy (to an exagerrated, humerous degree) but that's not race specific. The victim of the piece is white, and really the only thing I could think of being racist about is is the white girl being assaulted and the black couple running away to avoid responsobility, but that's really pushing it since them being black has little to do with the vibe of the whole thing.

What's more there isn't going to be any kind of "secret" or even "unintentional" racial message here, because this is an ad running during some of the most high profile and ridiculously expensive airtime to exist. Anyone who thinks that this was not CAREFULLY reviewed among many submissions from commercial creators who would kill to have their commercial for that product put on the air then is insane. This thing was probably subjected to a bloody microscope, and brough up before focus groups to measure advertising impact beforehand. There is nothing there unless you WANT it to be there, and as I'm saying above, I think that's what it comes down to, people desperate to create a boogieman.
 

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Anywhere else in the world and people would just laugh at the end result with this commercial. But this is America, where everyone and their dog apparently has a hidden racist agenda. People get up in arms about the silliest things.

Can't we all just get along and enjoy the schadenfreude?
 

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Meh, people are always complaining about insignificant shit, expecially when it come to politicians. If you look for racism everywhere your going to find it, regardless if its there or not. I don't see anything rascist in that as at all.
 

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I didnt even know it was racist. I just thought it was funny and envious gf behavior. People are blowing this way out of proportion.
 

Wintermoot

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I dont see how the add is racist its just the guy,s wife trowing a coke can at him with him ducking. Wouldnt it be racis if the add only showed cuacuasiian people?
 

Lullabye

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I think it was more sexist than anything. I mean, what if it had been the man doin all that to the woman?
eh?
EH?
 

VaderMan92

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I though it was racist, it depicted a hate crime against a black woman. What did that cheeky white girl aggressively attack her fist with her face for anyway. Lol, if anyone wants to ***** about the double standard in society imagine if the hot girl on the bench had been black and the couple had been white. Then the NAACP would be all over Pepsi for that one.