Rape threats reported to mothers, one mother replies

[Something Amyss]

Yup, that's part of the problem in this town. Very white liberal, so they're all super progressive in theory, and on paper, but put them to the test and you'll see them clutch their purse and cross the street when they see a black person... at the very least.

Which is weird to me, because I still can't find myself scared by black people. I look at the terrified ways they react to them, and I'm like, what? And some of these are the same people who taught me racism was over or who now claim we're in a post-racial society. It's just....amazing that people can be so oblivious to this.

And I'm sure I'm oblivious about things, too.

 

[JimB]

I was being facetious, but honestly, you probably shouldn't use real information for things on the internet anyway.

Ah. My apologies. I've been seeing a lot of genuinely reprehensible feelings expressed about rape and rape threats lately, so I took you at your word on that.

 

[jklinders]

Smash the brat's smartphone and cancel it's account, take away his computer and vidya games and consoles and when he complains of boredom, sign him up for volunteer work. Actions have consequences but too many parents are pushovers these days.

 

[JimB]

I was being facetious, but honestly, you probably shouldn't use real information for things on the internet anyway.

Ah. My apologies. I've been seeing a lot of genuinely reprehensible feelings expressed about rape and rape threats lately, so I took you at your word on that.

No, you haven't.

Why do you continually tell people what they think and feel? Are you so desperate to be agreed with, so terrified of dissent, that you have to pretend you have the authority to mandate the thoughts and feelings of those other than yourself? Whatever your reason, it's getting old, insaninater. You do not get to dictate what I find reprehensible, and for the record, I am quite thoroughly disgusted by your insistence that "Ha ha, it's funny because outperforming a woman at a video game is analogous her being pinned down and violently penetrated" is a joke worth defending to the point that individuals and private organizations are somehow morally wrong for expressing disapproval of those concepts without instead suing one another, spending exorbitant amounts of money in what would be the very definition of frivolous litigation.

 

[Tsun Tzu]

I'm rather concerned that it's so easy for people to find the contact details for minors and contact them directly.

Hm. You're on to something here.

This is troubling in and of itself.

What's more troubling is that our newest generation is so stupid as to not realize that their facebook profiles offer a readily accessible means of identifying both them and their immediate relatives/friends/acquaintances and that, should they choose to be a dick, the best method of doing so is and will always be through anonymous screen names.

Overall, I'm concerned for the future of trolling.

 

[VanQ]

This is something I can get behind. If some kid threatens to rape you, tell his mum so she can straighten him out.

If he/she[footnote]Girls send death and rape threats too. I play with two girls that scream more of them into the mic than any guy I've ever played with.[/footnote] is over the age of 18, report it to the proper authorities. While it might piss them off that you told their mum on them at that age it would likely do little to persuade them to stop. But a good police investigation will.

 

[renegade7]

I'm rather concerned that it's so easy for people to find the contact details for minors and contact them directly.

If this is social media spam, like Facebook or Twitter, then wouldn't it be reasonably easy to find that information?

If not, then we may have another problem.

 

[RicoADF]

No, you don?t, because I?m not telling anyone how to raise their kids. But I will openly call a parent that beats their children ?trash.?

Unless they put gun in my face.

When you say a beating do you mean giving the child a smack on the butt? As someone who was lucky enough to have a parent that cared I was smacked on rare occasions when I went too far and I thank my father for doing it esp now seeing all the spoilt brats that get away with everything today. Children need to be taught that actions have consequences and if do something wrong you'll be punished.

If you mean actual beating, as in someone assaulting their child (esp with an object/weapon) then yeah agreed. Just checking what you mean by that line.

I dunno. As a 21 year old who has been living away from home for three years, if my mum were to call me after hearing that I sent someone a rape threat, I would be scared shitless.

Personally I'd be more scared of my mother than any police officer. A cop could only charge me, my mother would (possibly literally) kill me lol.

 

[RicoADF]

I get where you're coming from, sadly. I live in Vermont, a super-hippie state where people sort of get the idea that these things aren't really an issue. *SNIP*

Sad to hear all of that crap going on in Vermont, when I visited the placed back in 2011 it seemed like a nice place, far better than Florida. Guess I just wasn't around long enough to find those types of people (which being a white straight male isn't surprising).

 

[Scow2]

Someone commented that violence against kids wasn't the answer, and you responded "do i have to bring up those words again" those words referring to "don't tell me how to raise my kids". You responding to someone saying "don't beat up your kids" and you responding back "don't tell me how to raise my kids" implies you support child abuse.

My "lies" will stop the moment you stop supporting and enabling disgusting things.

Humans are built and designed to take and learn from physical responses - far more readily than verbal ones. I've seen people raised without physical discipline - they are, without fail, the most whiny, overentitled bullies on earth. They feel invincible. Or, the parents that try to find alternative punishments that don't physically hurt the kid yet still punish them... they tend to be worse, as alternative punishments are designed to target the intellectual aspects of the mind and can leave much worse scars.

A swat or thump, at an early age, teaches a lesson without lasting harm. Other techniques I've seen (usually social deprivations)... well, the kid usually learns something - just never the intended lesson. Physical discipline creates associations between negative behavior and repercussions on a solid, primal base. Other methods do not establish that connection, disassociate the punishment and crime, and teach the kid to be more manipulative and covert.

 

[CrystalShadow]

The problem is that a lot of times person A provokes person B and then as soon as an insult comes, person A takes the role virtuous and innocent by-stander that for no reason at all got blasted by person B. People have been arguing since the dawn of time and I'm fairly certain insults and threats have occurred in many of those arguments. It gets taken out of context if you just say "look what person B called me! Save me from this evil!". Also, I'm fairly certain we used to stab each other during the arguments in the past and given that there is a steep decline in stabbing injuries I am confident that we as a society is moving in the right direction.

No kidding. That's happened to me on Youtube recently. And I didn't even insult anyone directly.
But... A bunch of people were being jerks about something I said, and when I get upset about it, someone starts repeatedly being abusive about it because... How dare I be anything less than super-friendly and calm about a bunch of people being insulting and condescending...

Yeah... Aren't humans fun? -_-

 

[Thaluikhain]

Yup, that's part of the problem in this town. Very white liberal, so they're all super progressive in theory, and on paper, but put them to the test and you'll see them clutch their purse and cross the street when they see a black person... at the very least.

Which is weird to me, because I still can't find myself scared by black people. I look at the terrified ways they react to them, and I'm like, what? And some of these are the same people who taught me racism was over or who now claim we're in a post-racial society. It's just....amazing that people can be so oblivious to this.

And I'm sure I'm oblivious about things, too.

Yeah...the fear of those in society with less power, and the refusal to admit it...not something I've gotten a handle on.

 

[chikusho]

Humans are built and designed to take and learn from physical responses - far more readily than verbal ones. I've seen people raised without physical discipline - they are, without fail, the most whiny, overentitled bullies on earth. They feel invincible. Or, the parents that try to find alternative punishments that don't physically hurt the kid yet still punish them... they tend to be worse, as alternative punishments are designed to target the intellectual aspects of the mind and can leave much worse scars.

A swat or thump, at an early age, teaches a lesson without lasting harm. Other techniques I've seen (usually social deprivations)... well, the kid usually learns something - just never the intended lesson. Physical discipline creates associations between negative behavior and repercussions on a solid, primal base. Other methods do not establish that connection, disassociate the punishment and crime, and teach the kid to be more manipulative and covert.

Sorry, but I have to call bullshit on.. basically all of that.

People who are brought up with physical discipline are more likely to develop severe anger issues, violent behavior, personality disorders and mental illnesses like depression and social anxiety. They are also more likely to become alcoholics and drug addicts.
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Pediatrics/Parenting/33561

If what you're saying would hold even a modicum of truth (which it doesn't), I'd still rather raise a whiny kid than a violent and destructive one.

 

[Something Amyss]

Sad to hear all of that crap going on in Vermont, when I visited the placed back in 2011 it seemed like a nice place, far better than Florida. Guess I just wasn't around long enough to find those types of people (which being a white straight male isn't surprising).

It's a nice place to visit. As long as you're not on my Facebook feed. >.>

Plus, you know, it's not like they're out constantly deriding the negroes and queers. At least, not since the "Take Back Vermont" thing died down in the early 2000s.

Yeah...the fear of those in society with less power, and the refusal to admit it...not something I've gotten a handle on.

Plus, I live in a town with like, ten black people. Even if they committed a crime, the suspect list would be pretty short.

 

[Sylveria]

Too bad The Guardian decided to misquote the girl and warp her story so they could use it as a smear piece against a consumer revolt.

Anyway, on topic.

I think what she'd doing is dangerous regardless. Some anon sends her a totally baseless threat, happens to all of us. She gets their parents involved and what happens? Hopeful resolution: parent disciplines the brat and they become a better person for it.

Worst case scenario? Now you have someone really pissed at you, and you specifically, for getting them in trouble, potentially making them more dangerous.You're already dealing with someone unhinged enough to make rape threats, doing something like that could make them escalate.

 

[K-lusive]

What's more troubling is that our newest generation is so stupid as to not realize that their facebook profiles offer a readily accessible means of identifying both them and their immediate relatives/friends/acquaintances and that, should they choose to be a dick, the best method of doing so is and will always be through anonymous screen names.

Overall, I'm concerned for the future of trolling.

I'm concerned for its present. These days it seems not much more than flaming and claiming 'first' on youtube videos. Trolling was a art.

 

[klaynexas3]

sadly this only works for people 18 <= and below

They need to find another as effective way for immature idiots above 18

Hey, no matter what age I am, I know for a fact if I ever pulled this shit my parents would tear me a new one. It doesn't matter how old someone is, you inform their family of the shit they pull, and they can be in some serious shit. It's their family, the likelihood they've severed all ties or can do as such at the drop of a hat seems low.