Rare needs to get back with Nintendo
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Only if you don't acknowledge Wii Sports, Wii Play and Wii * as games. Their core games have mostly been old games with new coating, I admit.Stammer said:
First of all, backwards compatibility. Just about anything that has the name "Playstation" on it can run PS1 games. It makes sense not to pull it out if you don't exactly need to do so.Stammer said:
Second of all, all the rest of the hardware on the PS1 is inferior to the N64. This is seen by the lack of bilinear filtering that graphically makes everything that's 3D look...well, horrendous.
And third, well...the problem with the N64 was that outside of its first and second party games, it just didn't have anything going for it. You had the old juggernauts, you had Banjo, you had Goldeneye...then you have a worse scifi version of Goldeneye called Perfect Dark that was barely playable thanks to the dipping framerate. And what then? The other camp had Wipeout, it had MGS, it had Syphon Filter, Tekken, Soul Edge, GTA and a whole boatload of titles people hadn't seen before. Even the Saturn had a superior library with new titles with Daytona USA, Panzer Dragoons, NightS and a vastly superior version of SOTN.
Few things:
N64, as a previous owner, had a two hands worth of solid titles, the rest crap. I sold it AND I have no remorse, longings, pining, or feeling of loss and/or regret. It was craptastic in terms of bad graphics, muddiness, and jaggies. Bad 2D is ok, Bad 3D is down right horrible. The PSone is far more memorable because it had great RPGs that really out shown much of the SNES catelog, save two IMO: Mario RPG and Chrono Trigger.
Rare can stay with MS. Nintendo is the one being a bunch... grr. Not allowing Goldeneye for XBLA and Wii Ware because everyone would buy the XBLA for the online, better controller for FPS, better graphics, achievements and basically just a better experience. If I had an N64, it would stay in the closet because:
A) all the Thumb sticks would be wobbly/broken shoddy messes
B) FPS with the C-Pad? *barf*
Viva Pinata Kicks Ass, and the new Banjo looks like goooood fun!
And Finally one defense for the Wii:
EVERYONE saying there is nothing to play needs to stop looking over Boom Blox and go out and rent and/or purchase this title. If you would stop complaining about the crap games and give the good ones an actual shot/purchase instead of the stupid crap, then you would have more unique experiences. Boom Blox is AMAZING. PLAY IT!
N64, as a previous owner, had a two hands worth of solid titles, the rest crap. I sold it AND I have no remorse, longings, pining, or feeling of loss and/or regret. It was craptastic in terms of bad graphics, muddiness, and jaggies. Bad 2D is ok, Bad 3D is down right horrible. The PSone is far more memorable because it had great RPGs that really out shown much of the SNES catelog, save two IMO: Mario RPG and Chrono Trigger.
Rare can stay with MS. Nintendo is the one being a bunch... grr. Not allowing Goldeneye for XBLA and Wii Ware because everyone would buy the XBLA for the online, better controller for FPS, better graphics, achievements and basically just a better experience. If I had an N64, it would stay in the closet because:
A) all the Thumb sticks would be wobbly/broken shoddy messes
B) FPS with the C-Pad? *barf*
Viva Pinata Kicks Ass, and the new Banjo looks like goooood fun!
And Finally one defense for the Wii:
EVERYONE saying there is nothing to play needs to stop looking over Boom Blox and go out and rent and/or purchase this title. If you would stop complaining about the crap games and give the good ones an actual shot/purchase instead of the stupid crap, then you would have more unique experiences. Boom Blox is AMAZING. PLAY IT!
However, the N64 had very low texture memory, rendering all textures a hideous blurry margerine smeared mess. The best looking PS1 games, things like Chrono Cross, look better than N64 games for that reason primarily.
Anyone sensible person with decent enough taste will immediately tell you that Rare with Nintendo is ten times superior to Rare with Microsoft. I'm really hoping Nintendo buy back Rare, because at least then many of the classic N64 Rare titles will be available (the current VC N64 line-up is scarce to say the least).
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.66592InfectingTheCrypts said:
Head here. That is the joke.
The only problem that i can see with rare games is that the audience they seem to be aiming at is different to the key 360 audience. They tried to make another fps (perfect dark zero) game after the majority of those who were good at them left to form free radical. Grabbed by the ghoulies and kameko can be discarded, both seemed poor and a bit rushed (despite rare working on kameko since the early gamecube days).shatnershaman said:
Viva pienta is just on the wrong console. Most 360 owners want shooty death not a fun animal management sim. Release it on a nintendo console such as the DS, as rare are doing in a few months time, and it will sell like hot cakes.
The new banjo game, well i will reserve judgment.
p.s. is it just nostalgia (as i boot the game up every month or so i tend not to think it is) or can goldeneye and perfect dark still in this day and age, if you don't mind the graphics, kick the hell out of most of the modern fps genre.
I don't think it's fair to get in a huff about Nintendo not wanting to have a Nintendo licensed, Nintendo exclusive product on XBLA. If it appears anyware it will be on Wii, but not until Microsoft, Rare and Nintendo sort it out between them, which unfortunately I just can't see happening.TheKbob said:
Microsoft buying Rare was a totally dumb thing to do. They don't make the sort of games that 360 will naturally buy (Viva Pinata? Banjo Kazooie?) whereas, like blackcherry said, they would sell like crazy.
true, Microsoft hit the target but what shooting in the wrong yard, they just rush the games and hope enough idiots who loved the first rare games would buy em to make enough of a profit.InfectingTheCrypts said:
If they actually tried to make the game less detailed and more entertaining and betta controlling mircosoft might get it right
Your arguments make little to no sense.InfectingTheCrypts said:
Here's their idea: it's called broadening an audience. The best way to attract more people to play on your console is to make sure your console has as wide a variety of games to play as possible. What you're basically saying amounts to "because their console has the reputation of having an fps heavy library, they shouldn't even try to go outside that niche". If Nintendo had gone by these ideas, they'd probably have gone the way of Sega.
And as I said, Nintendo themselves sold Rare, because they hadn't been doing anything worthwhile for a long time. I mean, DKC64 wasn't that good and Star Fox Adventures bordered atrocious. The trend started there. Thankfully, Kameo and Viva Piñata are both GOOD games and variety on any console shouldn't be a bad thing. Rare slowly seems to be getting their groove back and I hope the next games they do are proof of this.
Yeah battletoads. This is by far the greatest idea I have ever heard from somebody ever.
Unless Banjo Kazooie kicks ass, then Rare should whore itself out to all consoles so everyone's happy. Unless Nintendo's smart. There's plenty of room for innovation with these games. It'd make me dust off my wii just to play Jet force gemini... ONLINE!
Unless Banjo Kazooie kicks ass, then Rare should whore itself out to all consoles so everyone's happy. Unless Nintendo's smart. There's plenty of room for innovation with these games. It'd make me dust off my wii just to play Jet force gemini... ONLINE!