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I am actually surprised with this interview, I will look for more on it because I am curious. I can't hate Sega America as much as I like, cut content sucked, but with deadlines and the truth of nature being not wanting to spend anymore time subbing the hostess club. Or the fact they actually removed access to the games are regrettable I was just glad to get the game. But maybe with enough push the fourth game due out next year which they said would have full content stays true to it.
Personally I would like to see a dlc content for the missing areas or a patch in the game if Sega America took the time to sub it up and allow us to get the entire flare of the game.
On a completely random note, the fighting being so unrealistic fine and dandy. But truthfully how many guys in tropical based shirts would try to mug you or extort you every twenty feet now that's unrealistic.
Haha anyway, this is just my opinion and I am always thrilled with articles like this.
Personally I would like to see a dlc content for the missing areas or a patch in the game if Sega America took the time to sub it up and allow us to get the entire flare of the game.
On a completely random note, the fighting being so unrealistic fine and dandy. But truthfully how many guys in tropical based shirts would try to mug you or extort you every twenty feet now that's unrealistic.
Haha anyway, this is just my opinion and I am always thrilled with articles like this.
Rather easily I'd say. Presuming the author is an obvious foreign dude with decent language skills, he poses neither a threat to the Yakuza (police? sif!) nor a potential victim (stats simply state he's likely not a business owner) so the only category left is pretty much impartial drinking buddy. So likely at a pub or through some mates.manythings said:
Ha, ha, ha!
Even the Yakuza hate American censorship... I like the Yakuza, they're sensible.
Of course it's not going to be all that realistic, seeing as it's a brawler... people don't fight all the time and not get taken out eventually, as they noted.
Even the Yakuza hate American censorship... I like the Yakuza, they're sensible.
Of course it's not going to be all that realistic, seeing as it's a brawler... people don't fight all the time and not get taken out eventually, as they noted.
He was a crime beat writer in Japan for 12 years, of course he's going to have connections.snave said:
BTW, highlights from the interview that aren't mentioned in the OP:
-Only one of the three reviewers finished the game. All 3 were inept with a controller to begin with, and two of them couldn't finish the game because they didn't have pinkie fingers. I wish I made this shit up.
-An argument ensued over the stereotyping of the Yakuza, which was settled when one guy said that the stereotypes were mostly true.
-A humorous exchange occurred where all 3 reviewers acknowledged that all the politicians really are corrupt and in cohorts with the Yakuza.
-They met in a real estate office, which was actually a front for the Yakuza; the reception area was a usual hangout, and hidden on the first floor was a Yakuza training ground. It seems kind of scary that you could walk into any commercial building and it could be housing the mob.
-Another humorous exchange about how the Nigerians are moving into Japan and competing with the Yakuza. This is something I honestly did not know about. A hilarious argument about what to call foreigners was in this same discussion.
-This exchange, when talking about why they don't just shoot everybody:
K: Shooting people sends a message.
M: So does shooting anything. Shooting people gets you sent to jail.
K: That's part of the job description.
I have to say, that was one of the most interesting reviews I've ever read.
Some of this is not surprising, but some bits of it like the Yakuza having in depth knowlege of TWO versions of the game to talk about what was cut seem a bit odd.
That said, their comments seem to be spot on about some things, especially the behavior of the protaganist in games like this in general. As has been pointed out before, a realistic game about being a high end organized crime member would probably not involve a lot of fun action, but be more along the lines of an accounting simulation.
In general the thing about the big guys is being able to prove that they actually did anything even if people "know" what they are up to. That seems to be pretty much universal to all civilized nations with strong codes of laws and effective enforcement. A "boss" type once in that role is going to have other people do things for him, and keep himself as seperated from the actual "action" as possible so it can't be tied to him. The old maxim "A supervisors job is not to do the work of ten men, but to get ten men to do their work", that applies to pretty much anything where there are managers, bosses, or whatever, criminal or legitimate. If some boss runs around breaking legs and being a menace, he's taking a lot of risks of being caught doing something. The guy is a not anywhere near as useful if he's in jail on assault charges or whatever. Rather he sends punks out to do that kind of thing, and then cuts them loose if they mess up and get caught, those who succeed and remain free and relatively unknown are the kinds of guys who are going to advance.
Of course in the scope of a TV show or video game, people want to see all aspects of this. Both the fear, respect, and power of the upper echelons, along with the juicy action and "hands on" cruelty... all coming from the same person which is implausible.
Truthfully I think the common "Hollywood" image of what Organized Crime is, comes from periods where things were civilized, but laws were hard to enforce. In the US for example we went through a period where the toughest guys were the bosses, and could pretty much do what they wanted with relative imputiny. This was because law enforcement was weak and unorganized. Guys like Al Capone literally took over entire cities, and while people frequently lionize the IRS for being the ones who found the evidence to arrest him, that wasn't the issue so much as nobody being able to do it for a long time. People like J. Edgar Hoover are considered villains today because of some of the policies they put into force, but when things were bad, they and those policies were quite heroic because they turned groups like the FBI into an effective force that was finally able to go after the "Bonnie and Clydes" that were out there.
People might intellecutally realize the truth where reminders are good, but emotionally they think of the things songs like this one were written about (one of my favorites actually).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Euavz2DQ5k
I guess the point is that whether they are Yakuza or not, the points seem to be good, and I think a reminder like that is a good thing from time to time.
That said, their comments seem to be spot on about some things, especially the behavior of the protaganist in games like this in general. As has been pointed out before, a realistic game about being a high end organized crime member would probably not involve a lot of fun action, but be more along the lines of an accounting simulation.
In general the thing about the big guys is being able to prove that they actually did anything even if people "know" what they are up to. That seems to be pretty much universal to all civilized nations with strong codes of laws and effective enforcement. A "boss" type once in that role is going to have other people do things for him, and keep himself as seperated from the actual "action" as possible so it can't be tied to him. The old maxim "A supervisors job is not to do the work of ten men, but to get ten men to do their work", that applies to pretty much anything where there are managers, bosses, or whatever, criminal or legitimate. If some boss runs around breaking legs and being a menace, he's taking a lot of risks of being caught doing something. The guy is a not anywhere near as useful if he's in jail on assault charges or whatever. Rather he sends punks out to do that kind of thing, and then cuts them loose if they mess up and get caught, those who succeed and remain free and relatively unknown are the kinds of guys who are going to advance.
Of course in the scope of a TV show or video game, people want to see all aspects of this. Both the fear, respect, and power of the upper echelons, along with the juicy action and "hands on" cruelty... all coming from the same person which is implausible.
Truthfully I think the common "Hollywood" image of what Organized Crime is, comes from periods where things were civilized, but laws were hard to enforce. In the US for example we went through a period where the toughest guys were the bosses, and could pretty much do what they wanted with relative imputiny. This was because law enforcement was weak and unorganized. Guys like Al Capone literally took over entire cities, and while people frequently lionize the IRS for being the ones who found the evidence to arrest him, that wasn't the issue so much as nobody being able to do it for a long time. People like J. Edgar Hoover are considered villains today because of some of the policies they put into force, but when things were bad, they and those policies were quite heroic because they turned groups like the FBI into an effective force that was finally able to go after the "Bonnie and Clydes" that were out there.
People might intellecutally realize the truth where reminders are good, but emotionally they think of the things songs like this one were written about (one of my favorites actually).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Euavz2DQ5k
I guess the point is that whether they are Yakuza or not, the points seem to be good, and I think a reminder like that is a good thing from time to time.
I still don't know why I haven't bought this. I loved the first one. I think I'll get this game next.
Interesting interview, afterall the best way to know or be accurate about a mafia/gangster game is to ask the very crime syndicate that it was based off.
According to Wikipedia... They didn't have the time to put them back in. Though my guess is that they know how some Americans (Jack Thompson* and Co.) react this sort of thing and would rather avoid being labelled as rape simulators. Though to be honest I'd have though that would be a good thing... Controversy sells... Especially when it's idiots who haven't put any thought or research into what they are condemning and end up looking fools when the "rape simulator" ends up as nothing.Golem239 said:
*Interestingly enough he actually took the side of Mass Effect when it was labelled a rape simulator.
I was going to laugh about the "Sega USA sucks" comment, since even non-gamers can tell when they're being ripped off, but it looks like I've been ninja'd 5x over already.
Still, it bears repeating. Sega USA sucks.
Still, it bears repeating. Sega USA sucks.
