Realism in Fallout

[spindle]

As a huge fan of the original series I was pretty disappointed with bethesda's addition to the series. For one thing they took away all the varieties of guns and ammunition, the sex is gone, the humour is lame mimicry of the tone of the original. But what really pissed me off is the lack of realistic damage. In the first two if you shot someone point blank with a shotgun and they were wearing a t shirt they'd die, in the last expansion I unloaded 20 rounds into an emaciated hillbilly wearing nothing but cloth pants. To make matters worse, he was using the same gun on me and was doing way more damage despite my damage resistance being capped out at 85%. So level 30 with a perfect ranged build in power armour < hick with shotgun. Not to mention the massive amounts of bugs in the game it's amazing it ever got released. I've fallen out of world, seen deathclaws fly into space, one-shotted a behemoth with a single grenade after it shot him hundreds of feet into the sky. I mean its still one of the best games on 360 but did they even play the original before the made this thing?

 

[Dogstile]

sorry, give me a second.

your complaining about a game that is full of mutants, power armour, and a nuked world because is has no realism?

i laugh at you. HAH! <see?

 

[Internet Kraken]

In regards to the Swampfolk in Point Lookout, there is a reason they do so much damage. All their attacks deal an extra 35 or so damage. This bonus damage ignores your damage resistance. This is why they still inflict massive damage despite your high DR. Bethesda gave them this advantage because people often complained that Fallout 3 was to easy, even on the hardest difficulty.

 

[spindle]

sorry, give me a second.

your complaining about a game that is full of mutants, power armour, and a nuked world because is has no realism?

i laugh at you. HAH! <see?

The original had realistic damage, science fiction is still based in reality.

 

[Extravaganza]

sorry, give me a second.

your complaining about a game that is full of mutants, power armour, and a nuked world because is has no realism?

i laugh at you. HAH! <see?

Lol, OP thinks too much -_-

 

[spindle]

In regards to the Swampfolk in Point Lookout, there is a reason they do so much damage. All their attacks deal an extra 35 or so damage. This bonus damage ignores your damage resistance. This is why they still inflict massive damage despite your high DR. Bethesda gave them this advantage because people often complained that Fallout 3 was to easy, even on the hardest difficulty.

So all the could come up with is increasing damage and health to unreasonable proportions? That's Blizzard levels of lazy design.

 

[You_have_a_name]

were you maybe on very hard mode

 

[Internet Kraken]

In regards to the Swampfolk in Point Lookout, there is a reason they do so much damage. All their attacks deal an extra 35 or so damage. This bonus damage ignores your damage resistance. This is why they still inflict massive damage despite your high DR. Bethesda gave them this advantage because people often complained that Fallout 3 was to easy, even on the hardest difficulty.

So all the could come up with is increasing damage and health to unreasonable proportions? That's Blizzard levels of lazy design.

Well the problem was that the enemies died to easily. How would you suggest that they fix this problem?

 

[Extravaganza]

In regards to the Swampfolk in Point Lookout, there is a reason they do so much damage. All their attacks deal an extra 35 or so damage. This bonus damage ignores your damage resistance. This is why they still inflict massive damage despite your high DR. Bethesda gave them this advantage because people often complained that Fallout 3 was to easy, even on the hardest difficulty.

So all the could come up with is increasing damage and health to unreasonable proportions? That's Blizzard levels of lazy design.

I think your talking about WoW ( being lazy in design.)
Have you played starcraft or warcraft (not world)or diablo.

Not. Lazy. In design
If you have played all these games, you wouldn't be ripping on Bliz

 

[NotAPie]

Its still a good game, and realism would make it a bit too easy don't you think?

 

[spindle]

They should have just stuck with the old damage system, it worked perfectly and made sense. There was an actual reason to wear power armour, whereas in the new one combat armour protects just as well and doesn't slow you down.

 

[Harlemura]

Excuse me if I'm being obnoxious here, but who cares?
Is the game fun to play? To me, yes. I find it fun fighting a squadron of Super Mutants in my underpants. And deatclaw-rockets are pretty funny in my opininon.
Maybe I'd see it differently if I played the other Fallout games, but to me it seems your thinking too hard.

 

[spindle]

Yeah I was ripping on WOW, but to be honest I don't really think they've produced anything good since starcraft and even that I found overhyped. Myth was a much better RTS and it came out a year earlier.

 

[spindle]

Excuse me if I'm being obnoxious here, but who cares?
Is the game fun to play? To me, yes. I find it fun fighting a squadron of Super Mutants in my underpants. And deatclaw-rockets are pretty funny in my opininon.
Maybe I'd see it differently if I played the other Fallout games, but to me it seems your thinking too hard.

It just hurts to see a sequel to an amazing game sloppily done. It's nowhere near as bad as Deus Ex 2 but it still sucks. It's more that the game could have been a lot better.

 

[Internet Kraken]

Yeah I was ripping on WOW, but to be honest I don't really think they've produced anything good since starcraft and even that I found overhyped. Myth was a much better RTS and it came out a year earlier.

Well if they stuck with the old damage system, then the problem with the enemies being to easy would still exist.

 

[Internet Kraken]

Excuse me if I'm being obnoxious here, but who cares?
Is the game fun to play? To me, yes. I find it fun fighting a squadron of Super Mutants in my underpants. And deatclaw-rockets are pretty funny in my opininon.
Maybe I'd see it differently if I played the other Fallout games, but to me it seems your thinking too hard.

It just hurts to see a sequel to an amazing game sloppily done. It's nowhere near as bad as Deus Ex 2 but it still sucks. It's more that the game could have been a lot better.

Well how would you improve Fallout 3 to make it live up to your expectations?

 

[Sparrow]

A fan on the originals complaining about the current one.

Shocker.

 

[WrongSprite]

Excuse me if I'm being obnoxious here, but who cares?
Is the game fun to play? To me, yes. I find it fun fighting a squadron of Super Mutants in my underpants. And deatclaw-rockets are pretty funny in my opininon.
Maybe I'd see it differently if I played the other Fallout games, but to me it seems your thinking too hard.

Nah don't worry, I've played the old ones and I think think like you.

To be honesy, they're fairly bad games.

Also, has anyone noticed that OP just seems to be flaming Blizz/Bethesda? Theres not much else to this thread.

 

[Nerotharis]

Fallout 3 is fine, they took in in a different direction and it's their right to do so. I find the new way they took it perfectly done despite the occasional bug.