'******'... Really?

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DanDeFool

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I've been playing multiplayer games, most of them PC shooters, for a very long time (over ten years) and throughout that time I have almost no recollection of anyone ever calling anyone else a '******.' This is probably because most of my online time was spent on well-moderated dedicated servers, where using any type of profanity or purposefully offensive language was likely to get you kicked/banned.

It seems in the last few years, '******' has become the insult-du-jour to be slung around like a big wet sack full of fecal matter and rocks, a paradigm shift of which I was blissfully unaware until the last couple of years.

It doesn't make sense to me. How does '******' trump any other insult in terms of emotional impact? Why call someone out on their sexual orientation instead of their ignorance, foolishness, clumsiness, or general lack of skill? Or, if '******' is instead being used as a substitute term for indicating these characteristics, then why not just call someone a douche, an asshat, a jackass, or a loser? Personally, when I hear someone being called a '******', or am called as such myself, I feel much less insult than I do shame and embarrassment to be sharing the same spaces as the kind of people who think that qualifies as appropriate critical language, even in an informal sense.

Why has homosexuality become correlated with bad characteristics to the point where accusing someone of it can be used as a catchall insult? How can so many people think that the word '******' can be easily substituted for an actual point? Is it strictly homophobia and prejudice? Are the old insults just not good enough anymore? Do people just think being crass helps get other people's attention?

What's going on here?

Mod Edit: Fair warning to those that wish to disrupt the discussion or troll this thread: we are holding the banhammer ready... kinda like a game of wack-a-mole.
 

TheSeventhLoneWolf

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''A ****** is a kind of meatball. Faggots are a traditional dish in the UK,[1][2] especially the Midlands of England.[3][4][5] It is made from meat off-cuts and offal, especially pork.[3] A ****** is traditionally made from pig's heart, liver and fatty belly meat or bacon minced together, with herbs added for flavouring and sometimes breadcrumbs. The mixture is shaped in the hand into balls, wrapped round with caul fat (the omentum membrane from the pig's abdomen), and baked.''

Source, Wikipedia.

All i've ever known a ****** to be really.
 

Contun

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Many people over the internet are just close minded, don't let it bother you too much...
 

Katherine Kerensky

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I'll always think of 'Faggots' as a type of processed food. That I rally hate.
bad memories of that food...
so I hear it, people are calling each other names related to a really bad type of food :|
 

dui29aghgb

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It's just a word that people (idiots) use as a substitute for other insults, because when they use it, not only do they insult you, but also make themselves feel better about their heterosexuality.
 

A Weary Exile

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Amnestic said:
I hate how popular this has become since Yahtzee started using it.
Seriously, the newer users paraphrase/quote him far too much. We know you like Yahtzee %99.9 of us here do! >:O (Not a direct assault on OP BTW)

OP: Don't pay attention to morons?
 

Hobo Joe

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It's just a sort of one-size-fits-all insult; similar to 'Douche.' Both of these insults have become very popular over the internet as some sort of insult to use on anyone that annoys you in any way, I'm not sure if people are actually being homophobic or if it's just a meaningless 'You're stupid' type of insult. Don't pay the detritus of the internet much attention.
 

Zefar

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E-penis + Ego.

Sums it up pretty good in my eyes. That's all there is to online gaming.

Like in L4D2. Just recently I finished a Versus round to the third map. The enemy team had done more damage total on the previous maps but we still got to the end. So they where leading. Until the third map when it was our turn.

We proceeded to grind their faces to the ground and started doing our good work. ^^ It's so fun to finally beat the team on ONE round and have half of them unable to handle the thought that out there SOMEONE might be better than you.
 

Optimus Hagrid

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I'm noticing that around where I live, '******' is losing its impact somewhat (except for amongst the stupid people). I can only hope it continues to go down the same path as 'damn' or 'sod', and in other places as well, so I never have to hear the barbaric word again.
 

Random Argument Man

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Macksheath said:
Amnestic said:
I hate how popular this has become since Yahtzee started using it.

What's going on here?
You're paying idiots far too much attention.
This.

Also, what does du-jour mean? I never done French.
Of the day or right now.

(EDIT: Merde! Quelqu'un a écrit mon message avant moi!) (Translation= Shit! I've been ninjaed).

Ex: Soupe du jour= Soup special of the day

If you have any other french questions, give me a call.
 

RagnorakTres

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I always think of a wood fireplace when I hear the word ******. It's not even an insult, really. Kinda like gay. I just think "So I'm really happy? Huh."

It just hasn't sunk into my subconscious that those are insults yet.

This is what happens when you read too much at an early age.

I think what your running into is that most (not all, not even a large majority, but a majority nonetheless) of male gamers are insecure about their sexuality and they thus project that insecurity onto whomever they feel threatened by. Thus, to them, calling someone straight "gay" is a major insult, and ****** is just modern parlance for a flamingly queer person. *shrugs* Or they could just be ignorant dipshits, I dunno.
 

Hollock

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there are different types of people playing nowadays. these people use ****** every 4 words
 

delet

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It's the same reason why 'gay' has come to mean stupid. It's the same reason 'retard' is used to mean stupid (though that kind of makes sense). It's the reason why 'Jew' has come to mean stupid. It's all because people are idiots. Half of them are too young and swear profusely to make themselves look cool and older. They try to fit in, so they take on the air of ignorance. They are the best, and if they're not, you're hacking. They constantly challenge you to one-on-ones and when you refuse, they boast how you're a scarred little ******-jew or something of the sort.

That's the xbox perspective, at least. I haven't played online in a while, except for a few attempts with borderlands. I don't care to do that again as the last party I was in, I found everyone was speaking in some kind of mumbled jibberish that only I couldn't decipher.

Watch TV at all? Every now and then (though they may have stopped) there's a commercial where they have some teens having a conversation and then they mention something about how something is 'gay'. Some person then comes up and equates the use of 'gay' to the person who mentioned that something was 'gay'. Basically, would you like it if your name was used as an insult? I always found those commercials slightly idiotic, but the point is valid.

TL;DR : idiots being idiots
 

Yumi_and_Erea

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Fag.
American definition: Insult, meaning homosexual.
British definition: A cigarette.

******.
American definition: Insult, meaning homosexual.
British definition: A log of firewood.

Everything's better in British (except health-insurance, gay-rights and the legal justice system).