Red Riding hood, Really?

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manythings

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Ghengis John said:
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You ought to reread Little Red Riding Hood as an adult. It's kind of fucked up.
Yes. Yes it is. Red Riding hood is a good girl. Shit, she's here to help her grandma. I guess the lesson was, good intentions are no shield from harm. Or maybe don't trust strangers. Or maybe "watch your ass in the woods." Heck there's a lot of good lessons there.
Read the old, OLD version. It involves bestiality, sometimes cannibalism and there sure as shit isn't a woodsman to save the day.
I don't remember a version with bestiality.
In some versions Red offers (or the wolf coerces her into) sex in exchange for letting her go.
 

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manythings said:
Ghengis John said:
manythings said:
Ghengis John said:
Blank Kold said:
You ought to reread Little Red Riding Hood as an adult. It's kind of fucked up.
Yes. Yes it is. Red Riding hood is a good girl. Shit, she's here to help her grandma. I guess the lesson was, good intentions are no shield from harm. Or maybe don't trust strangers. Or maybe "watch your ass in the woods." Heck there's a lot of good lessons there.
Read the old, OLD version. It involves bestiality, sometimes cannibalism and there sure as shit isn't a woodsman to save the day.
I don't remember a version with bestiality.
In some versions Red offers (or the wolf coerces her into) sex in exchange for letting her go.
No. No I don't believe that at all. Find me one.
 

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Matt_LRR said:
I really want to hate this movie on principle, but it has Gary Oldman in it, so I can't bring myself to do so.

Tho GO wouldn't let me down!

-m
Gary Oldman you say? Yup I'm watching it.
 

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Matt_LRR said:
I really want to hate this movie on principle, but it has Gary Oldman in it, so I can't bring myself to do so.

Tho GO wouldn't let me down!

-m
I'm guessing you haven't seen Interstate 60
 

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God, I'm going to regret posting this. I don't actually think the directing in Twilight was that bad.

Look, look, I know, Twilight bad, burn it to the ground, so on and so forth. But I think the source material and actors had more to do with it's horribleness more than anything else. There are a few scenes, such as the baseball scene, that are just thematically impressive and well done. You completely forget for a second you are watching a bullshit movie about tween vampires and actually get into it for a second. All in all, I think this movie has great potential.
 

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Ghengis John said:
manythings said:
Ghengis John said:
Blank Kold said:
You ought to reread Little Red Riding Hood as an adult. It's kind of fucked up.
Yes. Yes it is. Red Riding hood is a good girl. Shit, she's here to help her grandma. I guess the lesson was, good intentions are no shield from harm. Or maybe don't trust strangers. Or maybe "watch your ass in the woods." Heck there's a lot of good lessons there.
Read the old, OLD version. It involves bestiality, sometimes cannibalism and there sure as shit isn't a woodsman to save the day.
I don't remember a version with bestiality.
There is a version before the Brothers Grimm by Charles Perrault which involves the Wolf suggesting that Little Red should get into bed with 'Grandma'. This is to sleep off the large meal that they had shared which had made Little Red sleepy - of course unknown to poor Little Red the stew was in fact her Grandma!! Although not present in Perrault's tale some of the folk stories claim the wolf convinces Little Red to take her clothes off before jumping in.

Apparently this beastiality/cannibalism aspect didn't come into play until the late 1500s with trial of Peter Stumpp (source - wikipedia). Peter Stumpp was tried for murder and cannibalism. Because of his large hairy demeaner (And the fact that during his torture/trial he confessed to recieving a gift from the devil so he might change into a wolf) he was known as 'werewolf of Bedburg'. The beastiality aspect I suspect stems from Stumpps daughter who was tried along with her Father with the charges of cannibalism and incest.
 

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Ok, first off.

For those who read Cracked.com, this will be known.

The original Red Riding Hood was a Tavern story. It involved Red Riding Hood actually dying in the end, unlike today's. The axeman bursts in, cuts open the wolf, and granny and red both fall out dead.
Second, before the wolf ate red, he made her do a strip tease.
Now answer this. Why. Would you do a strip tease. For your grandmother.

Several other childhood stories are also ruined by reality.

Sleeping beauty.
When the prince first laid eyes on her, he just got right to work, and she pumped out two children before she even woke up.

Go read the original Grim Brothers' stories. You may be interested at what you find.
I was under the impression that the hunter opens up the wolf and granny and red are still alive. To make good their escape they fill the Wolf up with stones and sow the wolf shut. The wolf wakes up and thirsty goes to the well where he falls in and drowns.Of course the Brother's Grimm use this part in their tale 'The Wolf and the 7 little Kids'.

The Grimm version that I was brought up on had Granny eaten and fed to Little Red and Little Red being coax into bed only to be at the last moment rescued by a huntsmen who had been tracking the wolf for its pelt. Red and the Huntsmen move into Granny's house after this and for the most part live happily ever after.

In later years, another wolf comes along trying to eat Red's daughter. Red however has passed on what she learnt from her experiences. The daughter doesn't get sidetracked by the wolf the way her Mother did and manages to get back in time to warn Red. The huntsman is out working and the ladies must fend for themselves. They barracade the house. The wolf outside tries his best to coax the women into opening the door - even pretending to be the huntsmen at one point - but to no avail. In the end the wolf realises the chimney hasn't been boarded so he climbs down the chimney only to fall into a cauldren of boiling water. The story ends with Red's family dining on wolf stew.
 

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Blank Kold said:
You ought to reread Little Red Riding Hood as an adult. It's kind of fucked up.
Hell, this story was the basis for a short story I wrote involving brutal murder (twice) and implied lesbian sex. And that story in turn, along with Hansel and Gretel and Alice in Wonderland, inspired me to write more stories and a wider universe involving more brutal murder, torture, more lesbian stuff, incest, and half my main cast in a mental asylum. And these characters are the good guys...

So yeah. If anyone wants to know why I feel this version of Red Riding Hood is a good idea, all they need to do is look at the very earliest versions of these stories. The ones full of sex/blood/gore/murder/cannibalism/etc...
 

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I have and even the watered down kids version is messed up. Im just saying its a good game.
 

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Actually, I always hated Little Red Riding Hood to begin with. I hope this movie destroys it as much as possible. Now before everyone tries to have me shanked perhaps I should explain my point of view. I love animals and I loved the wolf character. Red Riding hood was just this stupid girl with no personality other then 'I'm a young innocent child, weeee!'

Even as a child I was hoping she'd be eaten. It's natural selection, the guy who eats the most marbles doesn't get to have kids. *George Carlin quote!* So I was disappointed that such a dumb person would actually live.

And the thing I remember the most is the sickening part where the hunter fills Wolves body with stones and it drowns. Sorry, that had me scarred for life and it still does - I'm fucking mentally scarred by a children's book. Jesus, I can't believe I just said that. How could anyone write something so fucking horrible? It's funny that these moronic parents are always arguing about the modern world corrupting innocent young minds when they approve of books with little to no redeemable value.

Yeah, These twats go ranting on about Harry Potter when it's basically a statement against racism going on for seven books meanwhile they turn a blind eye to The Little Red Riding hood when it doesn't seem to have an actual moral. Oh, and you know, it kills a living creature just trying to survive in an inhumane manner. Who wrote this fucking thing, Sarah Palin?

What's the moral behind this? Don't be fucking stupid? No, that can't be it. Because in the end Little Red Riding hood survived for being stupid and the Wolf died for being cunning. AGH, Fucking christ! If I have to continue anymore I'll probably strangle someone so I'm just going to stop here before I go bat fucking shit insane.

Well, I think I'm off to write a fan fiction where the Wolf kills all the characters and survives. Putting stones in the hunters balls and having him drown in a river filled with 10 piranhas. (So they don't kill him too quickly)

God, I hate this book.
 

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my school did a red riding hood play once... It was terrible.

So my childhood isn't ruined by this, just spat on. :)
 

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Crazy_Dude said:
Cole Sauer said:
I reacently saw a commercial for a new horror movie and it looked okay (but i dont like horror so whatever) so i was wondering what it was and i saw it was red riding hood... REALLY i feal like media is just trying to murder my child hood anyone else?
Michael Bay already ruined my childhood nothing can make me forget those horrible Transformer movies.

Also isnt Red Riding Hood directed by the same guy who directed Twilight?

I think I have said enough.
Guys didn't direct twilight. Not even the new ones. We all know why.
 

Viivrabe

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no one reads the originals...
fairy tales are almost all originally dark and horrific, Red Riding hood was originally an allegory for force-able rape, and now its just going to be about a slut who has sex with a werewolf and "love".
makes me sick to be honest.

thats why I likes "The Brothers Grim"