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sammyfreak

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Vivaldis Seasons are intense beyond reason and Beethovens 9th is insane.

But i do think most by Bach (except Valkyrie) is rather overated.
 

MrKeroChan

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I enjoy classical music more than most, but I enjoy a panorama of music. For each bit o' beloved Bach or Mozart, there also exists complete crap...same thing goes for rock, pop, coutry, techno, gospel, and yes even rap. I'm still looking for some jazz that don't make me want to claw out my eardrums, though....
 

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Here's a bit of trivia from a former orchestral musician ... people often confuse the terms "Classical" (a style of music) with "orchestral" (music played by an orchestra).

Many people mistakenly cite music like that of Bach or Tchaikovsky as Classical. Classical music actually falls into a relatively narrow 100 year span from the early 1700's to the early 1800's.

Mozart, Beethoven and Haydn composed in the Classical style. Bach and Pachabel were Baroque and Liszt, Schumann and Tchaikovsky were Romantic composers.

But they ALL made orchestral music.

I love metal, punk, rock, rap ... just about everything, but my favorite piece of music is Beethoven's Piano Sonata No. 13.
 

sammyfreak

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Rjak said:
Here's a bit of trivia from a former orchestral musician ... people often confuse the terms "Classical" (a style of music) with "orchestral" (music played by an orchestra).

Many people mistakenly cite music like that of Bach or Tchaikovsky as Classical. Classical music actually falls into a relatively narrow 100 year span from the early 1700's to the early 1800's.

Mozart, Beethoven and Haydn composed in the Classical style. Bach and Pachabel were Baroque and Liszt, Schumann and Tchaikovsky were Romantic composers.

But they ALL made orchestral music.
I have that indicated before but never seen composers categorised, interesting indeed.
 

Girlysprite

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Yes, I actually know that 'classical' fact. However, for the sake of discussing, classical is an easy term to cover all non pop/folk/whatever styles.

Classic is something that everyone has to/will like. All music tastes are aquired. Ever tried to listen to chinese/Japanese classic music? To many westerns it sounds like ploinking and wailing.
 

Anarchemitis

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In no peticular order, these are my favorite peices:

Pictures at an Exhibition, by Modest Mussogrsky, Orchestrated by Ravel
Canon in D Major, by Rossini
William Tell Overture, also by Rossini
Midsimmer Vigil (aka Swedish Rhapsody), Hugo Alfven
The Planets Suite (Particularly Jupiter and Neptune), by Gustav Holst
A Midsummer's Night Dream, No. Scherzo, by Felix Mendelssohn
Peer Gynt Suite (and additionally Hall of the Mountain King), by Evard Grieg
and lastly
Tosca, by Puccini
 

Nerdfury

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I don't like any individual composer. For each composer there's a few pieces I like and some I don't. That being said, my current enjoyment comes out of overtures and music from some of the Operas I've seen or will see - such as Il Barbiere de Seviglia, Le Nozze di Figaro: Ossia la Folle Giornata and Turandot.
 

MrCrun

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I like Shostakovich most. After that Puccini, Verdi and Prokofiev (esp. Romeo and Juliet). Holst is very good but the previous mentioned are better IMHO. I also hate Vivaldi with quite a passion, to the point of turning of the radios of other family members when he comes on.
 

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wilsonscrazybed said:
Since we're trading music links you should go back and listen to a NWA (specifically Fear of A Black Planet).
Fear of a Black Planet was Public Enemy, just in case he ever does decide to check it out. Exceptional album.
 

Baroque

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It is so true, my favorite classical instrument is piano. Like if you really listen, every single note is in perfect balance if you do one note wrong is sounds horrible. One song I really enjoy is See Saw - Rain And Storm omg this song is perfect every note is so wonderful.

classical music feels like it was the time when the money for the music was not the biggest gain. Today i cant really belive all rappers and hip hoppers make all there songs out of heart.
 

Haliwali

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Used to play classical guitar, but that was a long time ago. Might pick it up again sometime...
 

xMacx

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Baroque said:
classical music feels like it was the time when the money for the music was not the biggest gain. Today i cant really belive all rappers and hip hoppers make all there songs out of heart.
Huh? Musicians were part of a court's staff (as in paid staffers), and even had a bit of rock star popularity to them - check this out: http://www.bos.frb.org/economic/nerr/rr2003/q2/requiem.htm

Plenty of musicians were there for the pay - and many derided each other for it. There's a book they sell through the Kennedy center filled with quotes of all the great ones disparaging each other for "not being in it for the music."
 

wilsonscrazybed

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xMacx said:
wilsonscrazybed said:
Since we're trading music links you should go back and listen to a NWA (specifically Fear of A Black Planet).
Fear of a Black Planet was Public Enemy, just in case he ever does decide to check it out. Exceptional album.
Yea, just realized that. Don't know why I got those confused.
 

Girlysprite

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Ah if were comparing modern and classic for a bit; a funny story I always likes is how a classic piece (or for those who know more; expressionist) named Le sacre du printemps caused a great riot on its first performance. There were shouts, fistfights, the noise from the fighting public was so loud that the dancers could not hear the orchestra anymore.

I really like that piece by the way.
 

Lukeje

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Yeah, 'Le Sacre de Printemps' (The Rite of Spring) is a great 'classical' piece (listen to the 'Augurs of Spring'... it's as heavy as some rock music!). But with regard to music that is emotionally moving (like Holst's 'Jupiter') I would have to recommend Mendelsohn's Violin Concerto in E minor... or Bach's double violin concerto in d minor... or Glass's violin concerto (all right... so I like violin concerti...)
 

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I like it when heavy metal and classical meet in beautiful harmony. Power metal is some good smit.

I know off-topic discussion is meant to be, well, off-topic, but while I'm here I strongly suggest that anyone who likes classical music check out Eternal Sonata. If playing as Chopin in a majestic dream world as he lies on his death bed is wrong, I don't want to be right.
 

alansmithee

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irstly, ride of the valkaries is Wagner not Bach. I just had to get that out of the way, not a big fan of Wagner he has his moments but he hides them well in hours of absolutely tedious sound.

As for the existence of grander music than the planets I would argue there is a lot of it, but in an entirely subjective way. Its not on a technical level that I fault him except in so far as a composer with in a monophonic medium such as classical music is required to tell a story I find interesting. let me explain, the major difference between baroque, the style that preceded classical, and classical is that baroque encapsulated each bit of the piece from each other bit of the piece and relied on the tensions and ironies that ensued to carry the music. classical music attempted greater unity, its supposed to be a cogent whole, its movements analogous to a sort of journey or roller coaster rising and falling.

In this vein the technical virtuosity of the piece becomes like calligraphy It is beautiful but it has to contain themes and movements that engross me on a personal level. To that end I feel that the emotional weight of the planets is simple, it evokes grandeur, majesty, and little else. In a piece of classical music I want something disorienting something that in the words of Hesse "makes you feel that a man is shaking heaven and hell."

To such end as that, one of my most cherished pieces of classical music is the second movement of Beethoven's 7th: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=qs5pH4GKYkI

I tend to prefer modern classical though, as this sort of texture is hard to find in much of the "classic" classical pieces. A great example of modern classical if you can find it is Vernon Handley's 4th symphony.

That being said the only Artists whose music I have ever liked across the board have been the Cruxshadows (with the exception of Metallica when I was younger.)
E.G.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=sT6sGVsgbJQ
Helen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVNjx4k8mWk
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