[Relationship-topic] Do women take the initiative in starting a relationship?

[Strazdas]

2b) Some definitely do. I'm very picky so I like to select my men rather than them selecting me. Only trouble is that guys don't always respond well to girls making the first move, so I tend to make them think that they were in to me first. Jedi mind tricks and all that.

This makes me sad. Due to my shyness (im quite the opposite in rela life than on the net) i will never make the first move and would highly value a girl that would. but due to thinking like this the chacnes of this will be severely lowered. sigh.

Awwww no not at all! If a girl really wants you she'll find a way of getting things going, even if it's really subtle. That is unless you act so shy that you give the impression that you're not interested in her at all. I have a friend who had a crush on a chick for aaaaages, but he never even hinted at his feelings. She was in to him but she thought he didn't feel the same so she moved on and found someone else. As long as you make your feelings known she may just make that first move!

Thats kinda the thing. Yesterday i was sitting between two very good looking woman. what did i do? whip out my phone and watched a movie. i am unable to find a non-creepy way to make my feelings known.

Eeeerh, I kinda meant more like women you know rather than attractive strangers. If you don't know them well enough to start conversation then you probably don't know enough about them to make a move either.

Its the whole "knowing them well enough" part that's not accessible. Obviously at that point one could make a move, but how to get there is the real question.
The point is: you dont make friends by waiting.

 

[Dragonbums]

Why do you think the vast majority of women are attracted to men? That's a non-physical generalisation we can make, although not an absolute one: women are sexually attracted to men. It's not useless to make similar kinds of conclusions about women.

I mean, I can literally flip that statement around and ask why are all men attracted to women.

Of course, just because women are attracted to men, doesn't mean all women are attracted to men (homosexuals) and it certainly doesn't mean every guy has equal footing on what she deems attractive.

A guy who's really lean with tattoos all over can have much more of a chance to attract a specific ladies tastes than the average joe.

However the issue is is if your going to go onto a woman with the expectation that she is attracted to men- and in extension you, your going to find yourself knee deep in crap.

The general consensus is that you get to know the person first. That includes attraction. Because believe it or not, some women will not be attracted to men. Some will not be interested in men at the current moment. Some women just want to be left alone like any normal person would.

Yes. You can say men like women and women like men in the very broad sense of basic mammalian reproduction, however when it starts to come down to the individual person it gets a lot more complicated than that.