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CaptainTrilby

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I'll be sitting inside, while my night is ruined by explosions from fireworks displays, seeing as in my area, about 20 fireworks displays all seem to happen at once.

What I don't get is all the bigging up of Guy Fawkes, he wasn't even the leader of the Gunpowder Plot, he was just one of the conspirators who guarded the gunpowder and the guy who exposed the plot after he was tortured into confessing. I don't get the Guy Fawkes idolatry personally.

I'll stick to BF3 and watching fireworks from my window.
 

Scarecrow

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Rainboq said:
Scarecrow 8 said:
Rainboq said:
Scarecrow 8 said:
Togs said:
Scarecrow 8 said:
How silly of me, I forgot that this important event must have music. So, I present this for your enjoyment.

At last I know what that piece is called! thank you!
No problem. In fact, that's only one small part. The full piece comes close to fifteen minutes long.
And that's just the overture. o.o
I know, rather amazing. And it's good to hear from you again Rain.
It has been a while! How are you?
I'm quite well thank you. You?
 

Rainboq

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Scarecrow 8 said:
Rainboq said:
Scarecrow 8 said:
Rainboq said:
Scarecrow 8 said:
Togs said:
Scarecrow 8 said:
How silly of me, I forgot that this important event must have music. So, I present this for your enjoyment.

At last I know what that piece is called! thank you!
No problem. In fact, that's only one small part. The full piece comes close to fifteen minutes long.
And that's just the overture. o.o
I know, rather amazing. And it's good to hear from you again Rain.
It has been a while! How are you?
I'm quite well thank you. You?
Its rather mixed, but over all well.
 

TheAbominableDan

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I feel people may be basing their view of all this on the simplified movie version of V for Vendetta. And not the book or the actual Guy Fawkes day.

V for Vendetta is a very morally ambiguous book. It's made perfectly clear that V is insane, and is doing absolutely horrible things. The whole point of that book was "is doing horrible things acceptable to achieve something you believe in?" This point is made on both sides. Both V and Norsefire do awful things to achieve either freedom or order respectively.

And celebrating an existing holiday for a romanticized notion of what a movie was about is just silly. That's like celebrating July 4th because you liked the ideals behind the movie Independence Day.
 

Scarecrow

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Rainboq said:
Scarecrow 8 said:
Rainboq said:
Scarecrow 8 said:
Rainboq said:
Scarecrow 8 said:
Togs said:
Scarecrow 8 said:
How silly of me, I forgot that this important event must have music. So, I present this for your enjoyment.

At last I know what that piece is called! thank you!
No problem. In fact, that's only one small part. The full piece comes close to fifteen minutes long.
And that's just the overture. o.o
I know, rather amazing. And it's good to hear from you again Rain.
It has been a while! How are you?
I'm quite well thank you. You?
Its rather mixed, but over all well.
That's good. I hope you have, or are having, a good November the fifth.
 

sheah1

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Scarecrow 8 said:
I'm not celebrating or even really talking about the gunpowder plot.
And you just demonstrated you missed the point entirely.

I'm talking about the movie 'v for vendetta'.
Where the imagery of Guy Fawkes as a hero has a huge part.

And while that may have being somewhat based on the gunpowder plot, I chose to follow the message both the movie and comics had.
Which still doesn't mesh with what you said just a couple minutes ago. So...what things should be remembered? You didn't answer that.

And besides, artists use lies to tell the truth, while politicians use lies to cover the truth up.
Trite, false, and silly.

Kinda like the Guy Fawkes thing in the first place.

Look, I'm sure you think it's awesome to guide yourself with popcorn philosophy, but this is every bit as silly as forming a religion based on the Matrix.
So um, your babies, can I have them? We could travel the world dispelling misconceptions and preventing the celebration of awful people.
 

Rainboq

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Scarecrow 8 said:
Rainboq said:
Scarecrow 8 said:
Rainboq said:
Scarecrow 8 said:
Rainboq said:
Scarecrow 8 said:
Togs said:
Scarecrow 8 said:
How silly of me, I forgot that this important event must have music. So, I present this for your enjoyment.

At last I know what that piece is called! thank you!
No problem. In fact, that's only one small part. The full piece comes close to fifteen minutes long.
And that's just the overture. o.o
I know, rather amazing. And it's good to hear from you again Rain.
It has been a while! How are you?
I'm quite well thank you. You?
Its rather mixed, but over all well.
That's good. I hope you have, or are having, a good November the fifth.
Likewise.
 

Kaland

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How will I celebrate it? With birthday cake and presents of the BF3 variety! Today is also my birthday, sadly, I do not have a Guy Fawkes mask to wear with my party hat
I celebrate the 5th of November by receiving presents, money and cake.

And at least some alcohol for this specific November 5th.
It's my brother's birthday. Several people are coming over, and the house needs cleaning.
I'm joining the birthday crowd! I celebrate the 5th of November with presents, food, congratulations and partying.

The birthday crowd is growing. Soon we will rule the thread.
 

Wieke

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I'll be celebrating the fact that Guy Fawkes was arrested that night. That British parliament wasn't blown up. And that Great Britain wasn't turned into a catholic theocracy.

And by celebrating I mean doing nothing special, just another Saturday.

Wikipedia said:
Fawkes, who had 10 years of military experience fighting in the Spanish Netherlands in suppression of the Dutch Revolt, was given charge of the explosives.
Wikipedia - Gunpowder Plot [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot]
 

ChildofGallifrey

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I found it delightfully ironic that this college football seasons biggest non-bowl game (my much beloved alma mater LSU vs. Alabama) was scheduled for today of all days. Somebody in the NCAA has a sense of humor and a crystal ball.
 

ReservoirAngel

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CaptainTrilby said:
What I don't get is all the bigging up of Guy Fawkes, he wasn't even the leader of the Gunpowder Plot, he was just one of the conspirators who guarded the gunpowder and the guy who exposed the plot after he was tortured into confessing. I don't get the Guy Fawkes idolatry personally.
Plus people seem to paint him as a valiant hero but he was just trying to get rid of one government so that another one equally as oppressive could be installed.

Add to that the fact that the explosion if his and his co-conspirators' plan had succeeded would have levelled several city blocks all around the Houses of Parliament, killing many innocent people, and he kind of becomes a wanker.
 

ProjectCobalt

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Wieke said:
I'll be celebrating the fact that Guy Fawkes was arrested that night. That British parliament wasn't blown up. And that Great Britain wasn't turned into a catholic theocracy.
Agreed. I'm going to be celebrating my brother's birthday! Guy Fawkes day's kind of been blown out of proportion thanks to V for Vendetta. I love Alan Moore so very, very much. That said, I can't help but feel like if he hadn't written that (wonderful) graphic novel, we'd have a lot fewer people in Guy Fawkes masks thinking he was in some fashion heroic, rather than being on at least some basic level a terrorist and attempted murderer.
 

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ReservoirAngel said:
CaptainTrilby said:
What I don't get is all the bigging up of Guy Fawkes, he wasn't even the leader of the Gunpowder Plot, he was just one of the conspirators who guarded the gunpowder and the guy who exposed the plot after he was tortured into confessing. I don't get the Guy Fawkes idolatry personally.
Plus people seem to paint him as a valiant hero but he was just trying to get rid of one government so that another one equally as oppressive could be installed.

Add to that the fact that the explosion if his and his co-conspirators' plan had succeeded would have levelled several city blocks all around the Houses of Parliament, killing many innocent people, and he kind of becomes a wanker.
And even then, wasn't he just a mercenary hired by the people who really wanted that to happen?

He's probably the most well-known because he was the one working with the explosives.
 

jpoon

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Damn, time for me to get a copy of V! I don't have a mask unfortunately and most of the tools in america wouldn't understand what the hell I was doing anyways.
 

ReservoirAngel

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OhJohnNo said:
ReservoirAngel said:
CaptainTrilby said:
What I don't get is all the bigging up of Guy Fawkes, he wasn't even the leader of the Gunpowder Plot, he was just one of the conspirators who guarded the gunpowder and the guy who exposed the plot after he was tortured into confessing. I don't get the Guy Fawkes idolatry personally.
Plus people seem to paint him as a valiant hero but he was just trying to get rid of one government so that another one equally as oppressive could be installed.

Add to that the fact that the explosion if his and his co-conspirators' plan had succeeded would have levelled several city blocks all around the Houses of Parliament, killing many innocent people, and he kind of becomes a wanker.
And even then, wasn't he just a mercenary hired by the people who really wanted that to happen?

He's probably the most well-known because he was the one working with the explosives.
I always thought he was the most well-known because he was the first one to be arrested, so he became the face of the entire insane plot.
 

OutsiderEX

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I'm going to celebrate Catholic Hate Day by going to a local Bonfire Night celebration and possibly eating a toffee apple and a burger van hot dog.