Remember that mission in Prypiat on Call of Duty 4? Well take a look at this...

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purf

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Hmmm... yeah, this thread will do:
I have profound theory that Highway 17 is actually north of Monterey, CA.
 

Starke

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purf said:
Hmmm... yeah, this thread will do:
I have profound theory that Highway 17 is actually north of Monterey, CA.
HL2 is specifically someplace in Eastern Europe. There's hints here and there, but the really solid piece of evidence is the Church in Lost Coast.
 

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Starke said:
purf said:
Hmmm... yeah, this thread will do:
I have profound theory that Highway 17 is actually north of Monterey, CA.
HL2 is specifically someplace in Eastern Europe. There's hints here and there, but the really solid piece of evidence is the Church in Lost Coast.
Considering Valve has said as much that it's in Eastern Europe also...
 

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Starke said:
purf said:
Hmmm... yeah, this thread will do:
I have profound theory that Highway 17 is actually north of Monterey, CA.
HL2 is specifically someplace in Eastern Europe. There's hints here and there, but the really solid piece of evidence is the Church in Lost Coast.
Huh, I'd pick all the Lada and Moskvitch Lookalikes standing around :) My point is: some time ago I was browsing some "abandoned buildings" pool on flickr and this one image so screamed Half-Life. Turned out, it was the derelict Fort Ord north of Monterey, just at the sea, nearby the ... coastal Highway 1. Which "used to run along the coast between here and there but this segment was damaged and rendered unusable", why in this area you have to drive along the beach through all the antlions.
 

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dragonslayer32 said:
Wow, that is pretty cool. That mission was one of the most unrealistic, you know, 2 guys take on hundreds of enemies but this makes it a little bit better.
Well it's not completely unrealistic. It mostly depends on what the 2 guys and their enemies are armed with, and in that mission the two guys DID have sniper rifles/scoped rifles, while their enemies were armed with mostly Kalashnikov assault rifles (which are excellent assault rifles, make no mistake, but they aren't known worldwide for being accurate rifles at longer ranges but are mostly considered to be close to medium range weapons as opposed to a purposebuilt sniper rifles).

Also one single marksman or a team of snipers waiting in ambush can pin down entire units of combatants in real battle conditions. Especially if the area in question is filled with difficult terrain that makes them hard to spot and shoot back at (which a sniper worth his salt is likely to pick if he's assigned to ambushwork/area denial).

For instance during the Winter War, a rather notorious Finnish Sniper named Simo Häyhä (holding a record of most confirmed enemy kills among all the snipers in the world if im not mistaken) harassed and pinned down the russian invaders so much they actually brought in artillery strikes with the hopes of getting rid of ONE single sniper, and even that plan failed.

I think it goes to show that depending on what you're armed with and what tactics you use, it's not completely unrealistic for two men to take on up to a few hundred enemies and still come out on top. And you might argue that "well one hundred combatants wouldn't be armed with only assault rifles designed for close to medium range", and in the case of some fighting forces, that might be true. But others aren't as well equipped in many parts of the world. After all logistics and supply can be a ***** for most armies depending on the situation at hand.
 

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kidwithxboxlive said:
Veteran camping spot? NO!
i was in one of the booths near the ferris wheel. i got grenade spammed but i actually only threw out 2 grenades and got hit by lots of flash bangs
Screw those booths, I died so many times in them.

The patch of grass behind the bumper cars is the best spot! Did it in 3-4 goes from there. Lots of claymores helped.

It's amazing how much easier veteran is after you've been playing multiplayer.
 

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
Well it's not completely unrealistic. It mostly depends on what the 2 guys and their enemies are armed with, and in that mission the two guys DID have sniper rifles/scoped rifles, while their enemies were armed with mostly Kalashnikov assault rifles (which are excellent assault rifles, make no mistake, but they aren't known worldwide for being accurate rifles at longer ranges but are mostly considered to be close to medium range weapons as opposed to a purposebuilt sniper rifles).
Someone didn't play Veteran difficulty :p
 

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One of my favorite photos from Pripyat is one taken inside an abandoned school, in the music classroom. On the piano there are music sheets with a toppled inkwell on top. The spilled, dried ink making a thick, black curve along the sheets. It looks very artistic and makes a statement.

I tried my best to find it but couldn't...
By the way, if you're looking for photos of Pripyat look no further [http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/]
 

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purf said:
Starke said:
purf said:
Hmmm... yeah, this thread will do:
I have profound theory that Highway 17 is actually north of Monterey, CA.
HL2 is specifically someplace in Eastern Europe. There's hints here and there, but the really solid piece of evidence is the Church in Lost Coast.
Huh, I'd pick all the Lada and Moskvitch Lookalikes standing around :) My point is: some time ago I was browsing some "abandoned buildings" pool on flickr and this one image so screamed Half-Life. Turned out, it was the derelict Fort Ord north of Monterey, just at the sea, nearby the ... coastal Highway 1. Which "used to run along the coast between here and there but this segment was damaged and rendered unusable", why in this area you have to drive along the beach through all the antlions.
So it's in an alternate universe where the Soviets took Coastal Highway 1 and stuck it in Eastern Europe... We'll find them yet. :p
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
Someone didn't play Veteran difficulty :p
Hmm, can't really remember what difficulty I played in. But I do remember playing it through on a difficulty setting that was significantly harder than "normal". How many difficulty settings are there in CoD: MW again? (I borrowed the game from a friend and those were pretty much my only playthroughs so)
 

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
dragonslayer32 said:
Wow, that is pretty cool. That mission was one of the most unrealistic, you know, 2 guys take on hundreds of enemies but this makes it a little bit better.
Well it's not completely unrealistic. It mostly depends on what the 2 guys and their enemies are armed with, and in that mission the two guys DID have sniper rifles/scoped rifles, while their enemies were armed with mostly Kalashnikov assault rifles (which are excellent assault rifles, make no mistake, but they aren't known worldwide for being accurate rifles at longer ranges but are mostly considered to be close to medium range weapons as opposed to a purposebuilt sniper rifles).

Also one single marksman or a team of snipers waiting in ambush can pin down entire units of combatants in real battle conditions. Especially if the area in question is filled with difficult terrain that makes them hard to spot and shoot back at (which a sniper worth his salt is likely to pick if he's assigned to ambushwork/area denial).

For instance during the Winter War, a rather notorious Finnish Sniper named Simo Häyhä (holding a record of most confirmed enemy kills among all the snipers in the world if im not mistaken) harassed and pinned down the russian invaders so much they actually brought in artillery strikes with the hopes of getting rid of ONE single sniper, and even that plan failed.

I think it goes to show that depending on what you're armed with and what tactics you use, it's not completely unrealistic for two men to take on up to a few hundred enemies and still come out on top. And you might argue that "well one hundred combatants wouldn't be armed with only assault rifles designed for close to medium range", and in the case of some fighting forces, that might be true. But others aren't as well equipped in many parts of the world. After all logistics and supply can be a ***** for most armies depending on the situation at hand.
I know it is possible but still quite unrealistic, for example, after you take the main shot you get blown out of a building and walk around the corner to find about 100 enemies at close range with AK47s and shotguns. Plus, whilst waiting for extraction, the enemies are in their hundreds. Sure, you and your fellow sniper are armed with high powered rifles and explosives, but the fact that you would need to be carrying about a tonne of ammo and your fellow sniper is not taken into account.
 

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Pripyat is a very interesting place. It's a city that's been abandoned, but at time of evacuation the city itself was intact. It hadn't been bombed or burned or anything else that would due major damage to the structures of the city. Radiation is obviously deadly to us but it doesn't destroy concrete. So when you look at Pripyat, you see a city that has only been destroyed by the ravages of time. Like what would happen if humans just vanished one day, and everything we built was left to decay and crumble.
There's actually an entire TV series all about what would happen if people up and vanished without warning. It shows what would happen to all the mega structures, reactors, power plants, wildlife and farm animals among other things without people around. I don't remember what it was called, but its pretty damn cool.
Life After People it was on History channel, they showed footage of Pripyat and talked about how it was an ideal place to look at the decay of human structures.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
Pripyat is a very interesting place. It's a city that's been abandoned, but at time of evacuation the city itself was intact. It hadn't been bombed or burned or anything else that would due major damage to the structures of the city. Radiation is obviously deadly to us but it doesn't destroy concrete. So when you look at Pripyat, you see a city that has only been destroyed by the ravages of time. Like what would happen if humans just vanished one day, and everything we built was left to decay and crumble.
Yeah, its almost...poetic...or something.

Theres a lot more images of the place floating around the web, furniture and kids toys left behind, rusted out cars and machinery, that sort of thing. It looks like the people didn't even evacuate, just evaporated.

Its really unsettling and perfectly shows the danger we can pose to ourselves.
 

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The CoD 4 mission was epic, one of the many things that set it apart from the others.
 

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Yeah...not really news to me, Pripyat was the town right next to the Chernobyl reactor that went kablooey.
 

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Well i have been there (you can do tours in the exclusion zone), one amazing holiday :D

The pripyat area in Stalker call of pripyat is almost frighteningly real, i recognised most of the buildings i visited while there.

The main square of pripyat in stalker shadows of chernobyl is also a near perfect replica.

This is a view of that square from an apartment building across the street:
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/98/l_bd5909490b8c45f5be6b470036e934f0.jpg
Ferris Wheel:
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/72/l_b31974cab97b48ff96e5e7f752dc0c45.jpg

COD4MW, cant really remember how it looked in game gotta play it again.


Radiation is high near the sarcophagus:
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/89/l_dc71ae767de5432891c2685735a23d5f.jpg
 

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
dragonslayer32 said:
Wow, that is pretty cool. That mission was one of the most unrealistic, you know, 2 guys take on hundreds of enemies but this makes it a little bit better.
Well it's not completely unrealistic. It mostly depends on what the 2 guys and their enemies are armed with, and in that mission the two guys DID have sniper rifles/scoped rifles, while their enemies were armed with mostly Kalashnikov assault rifles (which are excellent assault rifles, make no mistake, but they aren't known worldwide for being accurate rifles at longer ranges but are mostly considered to be close to medium range weapons as opposed to a purposebuilt sniper rifles).

Also one single marksman or a team of snipers waiting in ambush can pin down entire units of combatants in real battle conditions. Especially if the area in question is filled with difficult terrain that makes them hard to spot and shoot back at (which a sniper worth his salt is likely to pick if he's assigned to ambushwork/area denial).

For instance during the Winter War, a rather notorious Finnish Sniper named Simo Häyhä (holding a record of most confirmed enemy kills among all the snipers in the world if im not mistaken) harassed and pinned down the russian invaders so much they actually brought in artillery strikes with the hopes of getting rid of ONE single sniper, and even that plan failed.

I think it goes to show that depending on what you're armed with and what tactics you use, it's not completely unrealistic for two men to take on up to a few hundred enemies and still come out on top. And you might argue that "well one hundred combatants wouldn't be armed with only assault rifles designed for close to medium range", and in the case of some fighting forces, that might be true. But others aren't as well equipped in many parts of the world. After all logistics and supply can be a ***** for most armies depending on the situation at hand.
1) There was plenty of cover for them to use
2) The effective range of an ak47 is 300 meters, much longer than the ground you were fighting over.
3) Two snipers would have to give their position away with muzzle flashes.
4) They were not pinned down. You can pin down a larger force when there is a great distance, or if they are unwilling to take casualties, but they actually just all went after you.
5) They attacked in waves. If they all charged at once you would not be able to kill them quickly enough before they were all over you. It was hard enough as it was.
6) They had men coming down from choppers right into your fire. It would've been much smarter to use the choppers to find the snipers and do a fly by shooting. Or drop the men behind some shelter.