Report: Xbox One Not as "Sold Out" as Microsoft Claims

[Ieyke]

Its not "sold out" because of stockpiling for black friday. Same for PS4. Retailers are holding onto any shipments they can get for the holiday rush.

Its to get costumers in the door of an expected soft season, and possibly unload more stuff on the customers once they are in the door.

In fact, the very same site has stated as such. So the PS4 isn't as sold out either if walmart still has them.

http://n4g.com/news/1400214/walmart-stores-have-ps4-in-stock-but-wont-tell-you-stockpiling-for-black-friday

Look at the source on n4g, dualshockers.

Not to mention we have no idea how big the batch of xbones are. Not being sold out isn't a death sentence if you make a lot of consoles. Which is a very good tactic when you are near black friday.

That means people will go to the product with a better production chain. Its basic supply and demand. Especially since good black friday sales is good news for your stock price.

The difference is that all PS4s available for sale were sold out in 3 days across the entire state of Texas, while Xbone's are just sitting on store shelves.

The ones withheld from sale for Black Friday don't mean anything.

 

[Slash2x]

Hey hey Microsoft remember when MANY gamers said we did not trust you after all the BS you have pulled with this console?

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MOST OF US DID NOT BUY IT!!!!!!!

I saw four of them at my local Walmart and even more at gamestop! I live in a college town!

 

[Spud of Doom]

I'm not sure we can really draw anything useful from this report. I thought it was pretty widely known ahead of release that Microsoft was expecting to have a much bigger supply of systems for sale on release. If that's the case, it's certainly possible for them to have outsold the PS4 even though they didn't sell out.

 

[Censorme]

While source leaves something to be desired, it wouldn't be the first time Microsoft has done this. They also claimed the original Surface was selling out all over the place in order to increase demand. Then we found out later that they had so many over stocked it cost them billions. Hell, I'd never even seen a Microsoft Surface in person until a few weeks ago

Good, I am happy so many people are reluctant now.

Fucking suffer, Microsoft. Not selling as well as planned isn't too bad for them, but it's something. Every bad thing that happens to them from here now is something well deserved, and I even say that as someone who mained a 360 last gen.

Every idea and move they approached gen 8 with would have been the start of the crash (and a much deserved one, at that). Screw them for trying to bring that on, and good on all of you for helping put a stop to their BS. I am happy they overturned their "ideas" because of the catastrophic negative press they earned, but all is not yet forgiven. You may apologize for putting a knife to someone's throat, but that doesn't mean your "cool" with them now. Not all of us have the memory of a goldfish.

^This. This stuff right here. All over the place I keep seeing "Oh, why do people still hate the Xb1 and Microsoft? Its not bad anymore." Seriously? Did we forget the part where Microsoft decided gamers shouldn't be able to play games without their permission? And then told us to fuck off cause its the future and this is what we wanted? PC is already fucked up the ass hole with drm and drm clients deciding when I can play games. If Sony was pulling this shit and I lived in a magical universe where Microsoft didn't have a history of screwing their customers, I would either be jumping ship or learning how to crack pc games. The idea that so many people would buy a more expensive console that's weaker AND tried to fuck us just because they owned a 360 last gen, is sad. I get that some people want to play exclusives and I can't blame them. But that's only worth waiting and buying the console when its cheaper and the games have actually come out

This is an extreme stance, but I share it too. I mained a 360 last gen as well, but I was not prepared for the ignorance, arrogance, and hubris that was behind the Xbone.

How could I even wrap my head around a console that wasn't solely designed for gaming? An original plan that had an always-online camera peering into my living room and memorizing my face? The "future" is we're all cattle in some kind of big brother consumer utopia? Alright, let them try it.

But NO, even THEY couldn't stick with their own guns and show us why they were right. They took everything new away and just made a 360.2 (not that many know it.)

They are squirming away from their punishment, and even worse, still maintaining that they're "ahead" and "everyone isn't ready". Coming from the company that's been playing catch-up with Apple and fucking themselves up everywhere else. WE are behind on the times.

I refuse to lay down and accept this contempt. I don't have a "side". I'm not against "innovation". I'm not taking this personally. I just want natural selection to be carried out.
I bought a gaming P.C this Spring and a Wii-U to applaud Nintendo for ditching the motion controls. I have a pretty good idea of where the wind is blowing.

 

[Shoggoth2588]

My store has some in stock but we're holding them for the two-day Black Friday sale we're having. Anyway, I'm sure we all could have guessed that Microsoft would pool up their numbers instead of announce US sales only.

 

[PoolCleaningRobot]

and even worse, still maintaining that they're "ahead" and "everyone isn't ready". Coming from the company that's been playing catch-up with Apple and fucking themselves up everywhere else

Mfw you made this excellent burn

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I bought a gaming P.C this Spring and a Wii-U to applaud Nintendo for ditching the motion controls. I have a pretty good idea of where the wind is blowing.

While I'm a Playstation kind of guy, I think a decent pc is essential to get the most out of gaming. I still feel a little burned by Nintendo after (in my humble opinion) the massive disappointment that was the Wii, but when a company says "if you don't want to lose sales to used games, make games people don't want to sell" I'm glad they're still around

 

[Flunk]

Report: Xbox One Not as "Sold Out" as Microsoft Claims

On the other hand, both New York stores reported having absolutely no PS4s for sale, although it is still difficult to make a direct comparison, as the Best Buy clerk said that his store received less PS4 units than Xbox Ones.

Source: Dual Shockers [http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/11/24/xbox-one-sold-out-but-there-are-still-plenty-right-in-the-heart-of-new-york-including-day-one-editions/]

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Tweak Atlus' nose for bad grammar, then use less instead of fewer a story later. Oh irony!
http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/less-versus-fewer

That's a prescriptive rule that no longer describes US English. Speakers of US English no longer use the word fewer in that context, in fact they very rarely use it at all.

 

[hngst2404]

yeesh folks will report anything just to gain some clicks these days. So between black Friday stockpiles, the nature of the site reporting these so-called droves of unsold xbox ones and the fact that we have no idea when these pics were even taken, what are we to believe? Simply that anybody can have a website and anybody can report anything as "news"

 

[mjc0961]

Not surprising. Microsoft can tout selling 1 million in one day all they want, but the simple fact is that they did it across 13 countries. Sony did the same thing in just 2 countries. Obvious math and common sense tell us that Xbox One isn't selling as well as PS4, and thus it's no surprise there are still so many unsold Xbones out there.

So wait... Stores are not selling XB1s at full price so they can later sell them at a discount?

Seems legit.

Nope. They aren't going to discount the Xbox Ones (and PS4s if they actually have any). They will just advertise that they have Xbox Ones and PS4s available and people will come in to buy them at full price.

Brand new game consoles are never discounted for black friday.

 

[QUINTIX]

We're still looking at possibly the second biggest console launch in history. Makes one wonder how much bigger the launches of the past two weeks could have been without the awkward attempt to step into an all digital future by MS, the sausagefest of the PS4 announcement and with giving at least an option for native backward compatibility.

 

[cerebus23]

So it does look like the 1 mill units sold is the world wide number and not for NA. That's not good, not bad but that is not good at all.

Well, if it is the global sales figure then it works out at less than one hundred thousand units sold per country on launch day, which by my reckoning is pretty disastrous.
For some history, 400'000 PS2's went in the first twenty four hours in the US alone, 500'000 PS4 at least have gone in the US and even the PS3's 'difficult' launch saw roughly 400'000 go to the US on day one and 300'000 sold in Europe on day one. Under 100k per market is potentially terrible, of course we don't know how those numbers break down (if it's 500k US 150k Canada, 150k UK and then rest of the world (or similar) disaster averted), but it means that at least one of the major markets ignored the Xbone on launch day.

Realistically the Xbone probably sold around 600,000 units in North America while the remaining number were sold elsewhere. It certainly wasn't evenly distributed by country, since America has both a large and wealthy population. That said, the Xbone has historically done very poorly outside the U.S. The fact that the PS4 was able to defeat the Xbone so handily "on its own turf" is not a good sign for Microsoft.

This, MS had to beat sony here, and they did not. Even with a slightly better launch title lineup the xbone with its 100 dollar price tag higher is just not moving all that well.

Economics? Or people fed up being treated like cattle or both. My gut would tell me at 100 more than a ps4 its a no brainer for the mom and dad that are trying to save a few bucks where they can, and a kid just scrouging to afford a game system.

 

[AdagioBoognish]

So basically...neither console is sold out anywhere. In other news, my supermarket hasn't sold out of orange juice. It is also well stocked in cheese and it looks like there are more than enough rolls of toilet paper to last a while.

Imagine if juice got as much hype as consoles. Thousands of fanboys screaming about how apple juice is the most refreshing and it's label has the best resolution, while orange juice fans are making fun of apple juice cause it heats up too fast and wont get titanfall. Couldn't think up a juice metaphor for titanfall.

 

[AdagioBoognish]

I find this this bit of news as a bit creepy, like snffing through your neighbours garbage to find something to complain about.

I am not even a console gamer but the amount of ire this new period of console game has generated has become downright emberassing. This goes both for the fans and the media who feeds their mob mentality.

This, this a lot. Maybe its because im a pc gamer,maybe its because im getting older but the media does seem to be attempting to stir up both mobs and it doeant seem to be taking that much.

but it is fun to poke them with a stick of your console isnt as good as they claim or hasnt sold as well to get them to react...

The closest we'll ever come to being able to knock open a wasps nest over the internet.

 

[Strazdas]

I really can't work out if this is trying to bash the XBone or if it's an advert for the shops mentioned. You've even stuck their exact address on there. Why not the aisle number of where you can pick up said XBone too?

To be honest whoever i asked who visited thier local shop would tell me that they would tell them that "no PS4s left, plenty of Xbox" so thats pretty much universal thing happening. Also the center of big city is the first place to "sell out" anyway so if it hasnt sold out thats something to worry.

Of course it coudl be that microsoft jut over-produced A LOT, which is not good since if it has problems like Xbox 360 had you have produced (and yet to see) a lot of broken machines.

Anyone else starting to think that the market for consoles might be sated for now..?
It's mostly down to the games anyway and these are luxury items in a time of crisis.

What crysis?

Besides the source, I kinda feel like this is the worse kind of reporting. People running around snapping pictures and talking to "store employees" count as reputable guides to global sales figures?

C'mon people.

Its more of a "microsoft lied when they said they sold out. Sony didnt lie when they said they sold out". Nothing to do with sales figures, merely availability and lies.

 

[Griffolion]

Show of hands people. who really believed Microsoft when they said they were sold out?

Show of hands people. Who really believes any company when they say they're sold out of a product? (With the possible exception of Apple).

 

[PirateRose]

Didn't the escapist have an article a while back about reports that PS4's would be shipped in far less numbers than the Xbox One? That Microsoft is making their device in larger numbers than PS4?

I'm getting a PS4 myself, but I'm pretty sure this article is just taking out of context a silly fact that there are just more Xbox's than PS4s.....

AH! Here's that article : http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/126265-Analyst-Xbox-One-Could-Outship-PS4-3-to-1

Analyst says Xbox One could out ship PS4, 3 to 1.

 

[TomWiley]

Good, I am happy so many people are reluctant now.

Fucking suffer, Microsoft. Not selling as well as planned isn't too bad for them, but it's something. Every bad thing that happens to them from here now is something well deserved, and I even say that as someone who mained a 360 last gen.

Every idea and move they approached gen 8 with would have been the start of the crash (and a much deserved one, at that). Screw them for trying to bring that on, and good on all of you for helping put a stop to their BS. I am happy they overturned their "ideas" because of the catastrophic negative press they earned, but all is not yet forgiven. You may apologize for putting a knife to someone's throat, but that doesn't mean your "cool" with them now. Not all of us have the memory of a goldfish.

Well, your memory seems to stretch marginally beyond that of a goldfish then. Sony is the company that, just a few years ago, the entire Internet hated for publicly supporting SOPA, the most blatantly anti-consumer proposition in the last 40 years. And the whole "PS4 being assembled by Chinese child labor" controversy was just a few months ago. Oh, and let's not forget the last seven years of you know kinda suing their own users for trying to put Linux on the PS3? At least two gamers were unfairly sued for copyright infringement and computer fraud.

Meanwhile, Microsoft are the bad guys for, I guess, giving you the option to purchase a system that requires Internet connection?

The only thing more hilarious than gamers' goldfish memory is how certain goldfish gamers will accuse others' of being more of a goldfish than themselves.

But it's the same thing with Valve - a company that pretty much hated by everyone back in 2004-2006 for restricting all their game to their new DRM platform (no known and publicly loved as Steam).

My opinion however is that none of these companies are unethical in any real way and this whole anti-consumer bullshit stands and ends with the Internet's tendency to overuse the word.

 

[mysecondlife]

"Dual Shockers" "xboners"

This is how I'll refer to people this generation. You are either a Dual Shocker, a Xboner, a Wii User. Combinations are being though of, but at the moment "Dual Boner" is looking pretty decent in the running for people who have PS4 and Xbone. Dual Wii Boner U/Dual Wii Boner for those who are balling enough to have all three.

Sorry I don't have anything to add to this topic, I ran into Mumorpuger's post and had to share the lols.

No need to apologize. Its a worthy post. Gosh I hope I never end up being Dual Boner.