Return Of Kings celebrate 'making The Force Awakens lose $4.2 mil'

[Zontar]

That doesn't mean the values the hold, their goals, and the language they are very dissimilar, which seems to be the main reason behind the comparison.

Though it's true their not being MRAs does not preclude this, the MRAs I've seen do not have any of these three overlap with what I've seen come out from ROK. The idea that they are in any way comparable is laughable given what I've seen of both.

 

[K12]

After reading this I've decided to go and watch the force awakens another 420,000 times... gonna be a really long weekend!

 

[pookie101]

Man, that Twitter account is terrifying, and just the slightest bit hilarious. This reminds me of that guy who committed suicide when he learned one of the main characters in TFA was black. It seems this film has inadvertently become a litmus test for bigots. And with the money this movie is making, none of the actors who have now been catapulted to the A list are going to even shit for less than $4.2 million. The figure and this group are both sad, and slightly hilarious.

There isn't a debate, ROK's openly despises the MRM, and the MRM seems to feel the same way given what I've seen.

That doesn't mean the values the hold, their goals, and the language they are very dissimilar, which seems to be the main reason behind the comparison. When I perused their Twitter, I came up with the same kind of anti-women and pro-masculinity[footnote]Not that masculinity is a bad thing, but the kind of masculinity they want to see rise up is the primitive "Beat your wife over the head with a club and drag her back to your cave" kind of masculinity that has no place this side of the stone age.[/footnote] drivel I've seen peddled by so-called MRM groups. If I hadn't already read here that there is some kind of animosity between them and MRM, I honestly would have assumed they were the same thing. The Westboro Baptist Church and "pro-family" lobbying groups may be different groups that hold no love for each other, but their goals are often very similar, and to those who don't agree with them they may as well be the same thing.

no one committed suicide, just a fake news service being themselves

and apparently return of kings is actually a real site. its one of those moments where you see something, know its true but still cant get your head around the fact people actually believe that in any way

 

[Something Amyss]

After reading this I've decided to go and watch the force awakens another 420,000 times... gonna be a really long weekend!

Or you could watch it once but invite 420000 friends. Or I guess 419999 if you're stingy.

and apparently return of kings is actually a real site. its one of those moments where you see something, know its true but still cant get your head around the fact people actually believe that in any way

Yup. Their Mad Max fuss was so hilarious and simultaneously infuriating, I nearly choked to death by laughing and simultaneously head desking.

 

[renegade7]

The red pill "alpha" crowd really hates The Force Awakens. Example: http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/12/07/fetlife-sadist-the-new-star-wars-movie-is-cuckolding-me-with-its-big-black-you-know-what/

And that's just the tip of the asshat iceberg.

Wait a minute, Return of Kings is now considered MRAs? How does that work? They openly hate MRAs. Like, you literally can not be less of an MRA if you where the stereotypical "Feminazi" who reads SCUM and doesn't think it's fascist filth. You could call them Liberals, Conservatives or even Feminists and the title wouldn't be more incorrect then it already is.

I think it's because most people assume that the red pill PUAs, neo-reactionaries, and MRAs are the same thing. Not strictly true of course, but since being openly and unapologetically misogynist is the unifying theme and also happens to be the most salient trait of the three, it's not an unjustified assumption.

 

[Zontar]

I think it's because most people assume that the red pill PUAs, neo-reactionaries, and MRAs are the same thing. Not strictly true of course, but since being openly and unapologetically misogynist is the unifying theme and also happens to be the most salient trait of the three, it's not an unjustified assumption.

You're right, many people do mistake that they are the same thing. After all you mistakenly stated that MRAs are "unapologetically misogynistic" which, despite your claims, is in fact an unjustified assumption given it's as factually correct as stating that feminists are unapologetically misandrists: true for some but anyone stating it's the rule and not the exception is lying.

Also, of all the sources why would you quote "We Hunt the Mammoths"? They're literally the feminist equivalent of ROK or AVFM and are just as unreliable of a source (they did partake in the "Feminist Furu Road" fiasco just to name one thing they've done).

 

[WindKnight]

SHhh, Shhh child. You only give them more power. Good work with that. But yeah, even though I don't really know or care about this stuff, a star wars movie is not going to do poorly box office wise, especially one like this.

Um, I'm not sure what power they gain from people laughing at them.

I think it's because most people assume that the red pill PUAs, neo-reactionaries, and MRAs are the same thing. Not strictly true of course, but since being openly and unapologetically misogynist is the unifying theme and also happens to be the most salient trait of the three, it's not an unjustified assumption.

Pretty much. To me the difference between MGTOWS, MRA's and PUA's is pretty much inconsequential, even if it is enough for them to hate each other. Their defined by sexism (and other bigotry) and general unpleasantness.

 

[WindKnight]

I think it's because most people assume that the red pill PUAs, neo-reactionaries, and MRAs are the same thing. Not strictly true of course, but since being openly and unapologetically misogynist is the unifying theme and also happens to be the most salient trait of the three, it's not an unjustified assumption.

You're right, many people do mistake that they are the same thing. After all you mistakenly stated that MRAs are "unapologetically misogynistic" which, despite your claims, is in fact an unjustified assumption given it's as factually correct as stating that feminists are unapologetically misandrists: true for some but anyone stating it's the rule and not the exception is lying.

This is a video by the most prominent MRA site, a voice for men, and the 'most influential' MRA Paul Elam


Totaly respectable and not misogynistic. Totally a movement you can respe- (burst out laughing)

 

[renegade7]

Also, of all the sources why would you quote "We Hunt the Mammoths"? They're literally the feminist equivalent of ROK or AVFM and are just as unreliable of a source (they did partake in the "Feminist Furu Road" fiasco just to name one thing they've done).

I didn't really know that, I don't follow We Hunted the Mammoth directly. I just picked the source that included the most text from the original rant. I also didn't want to link where the blog post actually originated from because it's behind a login wall and is part of a website that I think I would get a warning for linking to.

 

[Zontar]

This is a video by the most prominent MRA site, a voice for men

Odd, last time I checked YouTube and social media had long replaced them as the centre of the MRM where they are ridiculed for the most part due to their extremist views. But then again why am I not surprised.

Also when are you going to change the title of the thread? I'm pretty sure having thread titles that are misrepresenting the content of the OP is against one of the forum rules.

 

[Zontar]

I also didn't want to link where the blog post actually originated from because it's behind a login wall and is part of a website that I think I would get a warning for linking to.

That's understandable, though it's getting harder to actually find links to sites for most movements these days anyway since YouTube, Twitter, Facebook and Tumblr seem to have absorbed the mainstream of pretty much everything these days, so sites separate from those that aren't major publications are more likely then ever to be where the more extremists sides of this are to be found no matter what the views.

 

[WindKnight]

Also, of all the sources why would you quote "We Hunt the Mammoths"? They're literally the feminist equivalent of ROK or AVFM and are just as unreliable of a source (they did partake in the "Feminist Furu Road" fiasco just to name one thing they've done).

I didn't really know that, I don't follow We Hunted the Mammoth directly. I just picked the source that included the most text from the original rant. I also didn't want to link where the blog post actually originated from because it's behind a login wall and is part of a website that I think I would get a warning for linking to.

Its a site that basically uses MRA's, MGTOWS and PUA's own words to mock them. Picks out the cream of the awful things they're saying, and lets you read it with commentary, IE disinfectant through sunlight.

You can probably guess why some hate it and call it a 'hate site'

As to changing the thread title... Hmm, does ROK fall more under the MGTOW banner, or should I just say ROK?

 

[Lightknight]

I find it hard to believe that people didn't watch the movie because of anything said along these lines that weren't already apparent in the trailers.

Don't know who these people are, supposedly they aren't MRA but whatever.

 

[Cold Shiny]

I just explored their website a little bit, and, I must say, I'm speechless. The things these people come up with are beyond "weirdly bad" and enter into pure evil.

My favorite article near the top was "why women shouldn't work".

I think the human race is doomed.

 

[Zontar]

You can probably guess why some hate it and call it a 'hate site'

Probably because it's a legitimate hate site on par with the people they mock?

As to changing the thread title... Hmm, does ROK fall more under the MGTOW banner, or should I just say ROK?

I was under the impression ROK was of the "back to the kitchen" personality types, not the "screw it I'm staying alone forever" types, so I'd lean towards just ROK.

 

[WindKnight]

I'm still super confused how they got the exact number of dollars TFA lost for pointing out it had women and poc errr... 'it was sjw propoganda'

Going through the article, they ran a poll for who saw it/didn't see it because of their article, and timed the 'didn't see it' votes by an average/representative ticket price.

 

[renegade7]

I also didn't want to link where the blog post actually originated from because it's behind a login wall and is part of a website that I think I would get a warning for linking to.

That's understandable, though it's getting harder to actually find links to sites for most movements these days anyway since YouTube, Twitter, Facebook and Tumblr seem to have absorbed the mainstream of pretty much everything these days, so sites separate from those that aren't major publications are more likely then ever to be where the more extremists sides of this are to be found no matter what the views.

Okay I'm looking at We Hunted the Mammoth now, and I think you're right. I'm not finding them particularly extreme, but the "nerd-shaming" (for lack of a better term) is really bothering me.

Like, I enjoy a good laugh at someone who has such a severe case of anxiety over his penis and that the penises of actors in fiction movies as much as anyone else, but whoever writes this blog also seems to have a habit of resorting to "loser basement-dweller nerd" stereotypes and singling out and insulting people who are clearly struggling with social anxiety by picking on the same vulnerabilities that led to their frustration in the first place.

 

[WindKnight]

Like, I enjoy a good laugh at someone who has such a severe case of anxiety over his penis and that the penises of actors in fiction movies as much as anyone else, but whoever writes this blog also seems to have a habit of resorting to "loser basement-dweller nerd" stereotypes and singling out and insulting people who are clearly struggling with social anxiety by picking on the same vulnerabilities that led to their frustration in the first place.

Except these people are essentially blaming people for their own attitudes, and willing to stoke up and reinforce hatred and bigotry to make themselves feel better, and getting into echo chambers where that attitude is reinforced, and strengthened and leads to some truly unpleasant abuse and harassment, and veneration of people who, say, kill their girlfriend for leaving them, or shooting up their school because their a virgin, or someone who may have crashed a passenger jet because his GF left him.