Ridiculously unfair stuff in multiplayer

[TitanAura]

For me it's having achievements tied to the multiplayer component. It's fine to have it in your game and it's fine to ask that I play it, hell I might even enjoy it, but don't make it a requirement for 100% my single player experience. I don't like other people. Leave me alone.

 

[exp. 99]

Well I don't find the KV a problem unless it has derp loaded in I want to hit it with my sword range given that I know its weaknesses as I do play it myself. Although everything with it should be peachy in the next patch as I said. For me as well given that I play a fair bit of TD damage(Russian and German) Alpha damage and pen aren't a big deal to me.

Then we pretty much agree.

At the same time, pointing out my original freemium gripe...

The Type 59. I *loathe* that thing. I wholesale despise it and those who drive it.

Just to put that out there.

 

[marobidoux]

CoD Killstreaks. They're unfairness incarnate.

Winning? Here, take those toys! You clearly need them!

Losing? Shut up and take it while the big boys are having fun, noob... Here's a speed boost so you get killed more quickly. Stop wasting our time!

have you played mw3?

ooh here is a good player who got a high killstreak his assault killstreak rewards will last all of 10 seconds and get 0 kills, because we've made them super weak given you literally fucking homing missiles to shoot them down with, perks to couter them with and made it so you cant die from them within 5 seconds of spawning.

oh youre a bad player? dont worry with support you can have all the UAV's and counters you want and dont forget to equip the stealth bomber for a no-skill multi kill and just to really piss the other team off have a free EMP, on me go on it'll really fuck up their day, what are you struggling to get kills? why not spawn behind the good players or get dead mans nuke, its okay that your a paraplegic retard everyone should be able to do well in our game


mw3 is the most ridiculously noob friendly game ever, what a game should do is reward you for being a good player (with killstreaks) and punish you for being a bad player (with death, and the loss of killstreaks) mw3 rewards bad players with cheap, easy kills, death streaks like dead mans nuke, and giving them better killstreaks than skilled players.

pandering for good players is the best way to ruin MP, if your bad you should have to either learn how to play or get dominated by good players not rewarded for being bad with bullshit like dead mans hand.


on topic: urban cohorts and praetorian cav

Yeah I'm playing MW3 but I haven't finished unlocking everything so I didn't see the Dead Man's Hand Deathstreak. I looked it up and yeah, that's complete BS. I'm totally against giving rewards to bad players. That's not how you resolve a balance issue.

I don't mind the choppers, because I can take them down. I don't mind the UAVs and support stuff (drones, turrets, IMS, EMP, etc.) because there is a way to work around them. What I hate is getting killed because some dude decided to fire a missile at my glowing red square. That's what I call a cheap, easy kill with no skill.

 

[OctoH]

Human Vanguards in ME3. The Biotic Charge + Nova combo is pretty OP.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Well I don't find the KV a problem unless it has derp loaded in I want to hit it with my sword range given that I know its weaknesses as I do play it myself. Although everything with it should be peachy in the next patch as I said. For me as well given that I play a fair bit of TD damage(Russian and German) Alpha damage and pen aren't a big deal to me.

Then we pretty much agree.

At the same time, pointing out my original freemium gripe...

The Type 59. I *loathe* that thing. I wholesale despise it and those who drive it.

Just to put that out there.

Well as far as I know it was removed from the shop so at least the people with it are static and can only decline.

 

[The Wykydtron]

Agreed with Dark souls. I pretty much just don't even play it anymore because of how crap the PvP was. I wanted to try fighting some guy's but everybody and I mean everybody had some kind of stupid end game level lightning weapon that they could use to 2 shot me to death even if I block.

I just got so bored of it that I haven't bothered going back yet.

Yep, the concept behind the PvP is actually pretty genius. Just the griefing culture and technical issues that has come with it has sort of ruined it... Do you know if Demon's Souls had this stuff as well?

Really, I want more start game PvP, real start game PvP. base equipment vs base equipment stuff. Fun tiemz! You only get 6 or so Invasion orbs before you have to go and join the Darkwraiths to get more of them though. Unless i'm just missing another shop that sells them of course XP

This shank battle me and this other guy had in very start Undead Burg was hilarious! Bandit Knife vs Bandit Knife FIGHT!

Also is anything other than a big fuck off greatsword viable in PvP? Maybe certain spells but that's mostly what i've been running into

 

[bluepanda 492]

The Pompson nothing better then losing an uber because of infinite spam.

 

[Jaeke]

Red Dead Redemption: I EARNED THAT 5th LEGENDARY LEVEL 50 YA BASTARDS!

Not like the other 95% of players that hacked their way via Google...

Oh, and Grand Theft Auto 4 free roam with friendly-fire on. Anyone in a car/helicopter with a friend can rape you until the cows come home.

 

[Jaeke]

Human Vanguards in ME3. The Biotic Charge + Nova combo is pretty OP.

Oh hell ya this.
Seriously. Those guys are asses. My Asari Vanguard can round up 60-70k by herself until some douche comes charging in. I seriously saw a guy get 200k one round.

Two-

Hundred

Thousand.

 

[Jaeke]

Smoke bombs in AC Revelations, Ubisoft doesn't care enough to nerf them.

This is why I still prefer Brotherhood over Revelations. Both in Multiplayer and even singleplayer.

 

[ElPatron]

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I am honest, I admit that a shotgun at close range pisses me off many times - but that has to do more with unbalance and map design than shotguns themselves.

When you have a scattergun that hits 9 pellets on a target at point blank range and you can't get one-shot-KO with it, then your gun is pointless. A shotgun should be as good as the top SMGs in the game.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

The plasma gun in Tribes: Ascend for about the five days before they fixed it. Your hitbox for the purposes of that thing hitting you was something along the lines of three to four times that of normal.
But then they fixed it and I was happily doing well in Arena again. Still a bit of a pain to play against, but nothing so insurmountable as it was before they fixed it.

People who intentionally cause lag in CTF of the same game. Pathfinder comes in and grabs the flag under guise of lag and you don't even get told about it until he's teleported 1/4 the way back to his base.

The Plasma was way OP for a while, but I still have a huge issue (as a new player) with the Juggurnaut. Only class that can one-hit kill (with skill mind you) with the 2nd highest health. Every other class needed 3 or 4 hits. He needs a near miss.

OT: League of Legends has had the FAMOUS FIVE. The five champions that were so gamebreaking overpowered that every game was "if you have them, you win. If they have them. Queue dodge. If he is banned, you're fine"

#5 Release day LeBlanc
One shot capable on any champ starting at Level 6.

#4 Old Shaco
Lower cooldowns and higher damage on a champ still considered to be one of the best junglers in the game.

#3 Beta Heimerdinger
5 turrets. Nuff said.

#2 Release day Xin Zhao
Top players set kill records, as he was capable of 1 v 5ing your entire team.

#1 Beta Twisted Fate
His global teleport? 16 seconds cooldown on his E. His W? AN AREA OF EFFECT 2 SECOND STUN! His ult? GLOBAL SLOW AND REVEAL.

You forgot pre-nerf Evelyn and Twitch, especially Eve, who had one of the fastest jungles in the game, unmatched ganks due to her invisibility, a speed steroid and an on hit stun.

The reason they're not on the list is because two items destroy them both. If you have an elixir or a vision ward, and see them before they start their attack run, they're both squishy as hell.

Yes, but at the time of Eve and Twitch's hey day, they were some of the fastest and most powerful jungelers in the game and could gank quickly and effectivly largely because no one has had time to back for vison wards and no one is gonna sink money in a oracles in the early game D:

 

[Torrasque]

No one said this yet? Yay i'll be the first .

WESKER!
WESKER!
WESKER!

Really anyone that uses Wesker in UMVC3 doesn't care for a fair fight . Best tip i have recieved for dealing with wesker is , don't get hit ... EVER .

LOL. A month ago, I was hanging out with some friends at my University, watching the friend of a friend (who I shall call Guy A) play against some other guy (who I didn't know, but will call Guy B) in UMVC3, and he was wrecking face with his team of Wesker - whatever he felt like - whatever he felt like.
He won 70 fucking matches in a row with Wesker - ??? - ???. After 20 matches of playing normally with a team he knew how to use, he decided to switch up his 2nd and 3rd to Phoenix Wright and Rocket Raccoon. He had NO IDEA how to use these two characters, but as he was playing, he was figuring out shit, and he actually made them pull their weight and work! Until then, he would lose both those characters, and then rape face with Wesker.
The craziest match, was around 50ish, when he lost Pheonix really early, and had RR get focussed down. So all he had was a 100% Wesker against a full team with 60% - 100% - 80%. Shock and surprise, he still won. He had 10% health and had used every ultimate he had, but he still finished the game with his super ultimate (you can tell I play this game a lot, herp derp) and made it look easy. It was fucking insane.

Unbalanced things:
Feral DPS at any point of wotlk to early cata in any setting
Prot Pallies in early cata in any setting
Frost Mages after Blizzard broke Druid shapeshifting
The spawning system in any CoD after MW2
MK14, Type 95, dual FMG, PP90, and hip firing in general, all in MW3
Quickscoping in any CoD after CoD4
Captain Falcon in Brawl, or a player that knows how to use Sonic
Dual SBP90s in TS2
Certain broken spots that players can go in Reach's Infection mode
Atlas in Mech Assault
Firebats in any setting in Starcraft 1
3/3 Speedlings with crack upgrade in any setting in Starcraft 2
Sturm in Advance Wars 2
War Tanks in Days of Ruin
Fucking Anti-Tank units in Days of Ruin
Grit + Ultimate + Battleships

And I think that is all I can think of at the moment.

 

[Shrapenel92]

Engie nests.

Well not really since im an expert on busting them but still they do slow the game down like a *****.

This, couldn't there be something that prevents engies all building too close together? Or would this just unbalance the game? I don't know.

No, don't stop it..! The second cap of the second level of Dustbowl is absolutely beautiful..! Every time I walk up to the rock on the left while playing offense and launch two lnl nades at the same fucking corner by their spawn without even having to look and getting over 5 destructions and 2 kills with the one volley, I cry a single tear of joy.

In fact, any time my team gets shut down by that boring old corner sentry nest, I die a little inside. It's so fucking easy to wreck that it's not a single problem when I'm on server, because I'm the one willing to walk up and nade that shit down, whether I'm being gunned down or not. Targe + lnl = dead engies

Hahaha! I've never even tried that, I'm going to have to go play and see if I can't use that tactic to bolster my score!

 

[Bat Vader]

The very rare times I did PVP in WoW was annoying because every time the player I was facing would jump around. I don't know if it is considered unfair but I consider it really annoying.

 

[Kopikatsu]

All I'm going to say is that Sniper classes/weapons do not belong in competitive multiplayer.

 

[Lugbzurg]

Actually, what I think is very unfair is the point always going to the person who killed you. It should go to whoever dealt the most damage to you. Not necessarily the one who finished you off.

 

[legendp]

Gonna have to go with the Banshee in Halo Reach. It can be countered with a Scorpion or a Falcon, but on the maps where they aren't around that thing can be a real pain in the rear, dive bombing people and fliping around like the pilot has ADHD which makes it impossible to hit with anything other than a SPARTAN laser, and can instakill you with ease. Oh yeah, can the Guass Warthog.

Yes. Fuck guys to take the Banshee at the beginning of every game and proceed to use it for the rest of it. I even see people wait until they respawn so they can get dibs on them. It is one of those very rare instances where I'm tempted to team kill.

Also, this is most likely beaten to death, but the Ghost perk on Black Ops. Also using Lesnar on UFC. You're really just going to keep it on the ground game? Speaking of wrestling, people who use Randy Orton on WWE 12. His Punt finisher is unblockable! Totally unfair.

I think the banshees are actually rather easy to kill (perhaps even too easy to kill), Plasma grenade, or plasma pistol, sniper them, even just shoot at them with the assault rifle or hijack them. Granted I use the banshees as well so I know all the tricks. Personally I think they are very easy to take down, as long as you have a bit of strategy and don't just charge at it head first. I also use always stick a anti air rocket as my secondary in MW2 so I never had a problem with air vehicles (infact I liked them because they were easy kills)

 

[Snotnarok]

Pompson in TF2, infinite ammo, rounds pierce players and hit them more than once and saps 10% uber charge from medics and 20% cloak from spies.

What's the negative here? Right there is none. OP as hell.