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Holy fucking shitballs OP is in Edmonton.
Mind = blown.
What part of town are you in?
Anyway about the build...
IPS is crazy nice to look at, so that's good. I'd probably keep it but just to play devil's advocate, a TN screen would save a good $100 and have a faster response time. "Pro" or "1337" gamers prefer the low response time but, again, I'd take this one because frankly it will probably be sick.
That said, for the price of this monitor you could go 3D.
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX29697
Or a 27" Samsung for $310 with 2ms response for $310
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX38429
Anyway, ViewSonic for $305.12
http://www.hookbag.ca/product/H3C06MSIG/
We can get the 2500k for $209
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/232639/Intel/BX80623I52500K/
Memory Express will price match and beat it, so it will actually come out cheaper.
Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium for $88.98
http://tsonlinesoftware.3dcartstores.com/Microsoft-Windows-7-Home-Premium-SP1-OEM-64-bit-Branded_p_95.html
Just with those savings we can get an EVGA GTX 670 for $399
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/243159/eVGA/02G_P4_2670_KR/
Again, all of these products are at Memory Express so they will beat the sale amount by 25%
Oh and we can improve the PSU to an 80 Plus Bronze certified, PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKIII 600W for $76.94
http://www.hookbag.ca/product/H3C06MQS4/
Mind = blown.
What part of town are you in?
Anyway about the build...
IPS is crazy nice to look at, so that's good. I'd probably keep it but just to play devil's advocate, a TN screen would save a good $100 and have a faster response time. "Pro" or "1337" gamers prefer the low response time but, again, I'd take this one because frankly it will probably be sick.
That said, for the price of this monitor you could go 3D.
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX29697
Or a 27" Samsung for $310 with 2ms response for $310
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX38429
Anyway, ViewSonic for $305.12
http://www.hookbag.ca/product/H3C06MSIG/
We can get the 2500k for $209
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/232639/Intel/BX80623I52500K/
Memory Express will price match and beat it, so it will actually come out cheaper.
Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium for $88.98
http://tsonlinesoftware.3dcartstores.com/Microsoft-Windows-7-Home-Premium-SP1-OEM-64-bit-Branded_p_95.html
Just with those savings we can get an EVGA GTX 670 for $399
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/243159/eVGA/02G_P4_2670_KR/
Again, all of these products are at Memory Express so they will beat the sale amount by 25%
Oh and we can improve the PSU to an 80 Plus Bronze certified, PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKIII 600W for $76.94
http://www.hookbag.ca/product/H3C06MQS4/
You can build a face-melting gaming rig for 2/3 of that.
I'd suggest you take part of the difference and give it to someone to put the pieces together for you. I'm not trolling you, but there's a lot of little things that can go wrong, and you said yourself you don't know anything about it, and most of those little things will void your warranty/return policies.
Better to have it done right and pay an extra $200.
I'd suggest you take part of the difference and give it to someone to put the pieces together for you. I'm not trolling you, but there's a lot of little things that can go wrong, and you said yourself you don't know anything about it, and most of those little things will void your warranty/return policies.
Better to have it done right and pay an extra $200.
Yeah, but it won't have a GTX 670 or an IPS panel monitor... I mean, a decent PC for gaming, with monitor, can be built for 800-1000, but this one? This one is a beast. A 670, at 1080p, will max out any game out right now at ultra DX11 4xAA goodness, and probably for a while to come.targren said:
Well I live in the same city as him and have built several PCs for people (from my Kijiji ads). However, Memory Express, where I suggested he buy the parts, attach the CPU to the mobo and mount the cooler for free. They charge another $75 for a full build. I charge $150, but I also do a lot more than just build it like installing software and updating and all that good stuff - not to mention picking parts lol. Though this time Matthew94 did most of the work in that regards.targren said:
That said, yeah, it's not good to go in completely blind, but it is fairly easy to build a PC.
targren said:
Yes, but there is no satisfaction in buying a system.
OP. Get grounded. Use a PROPER grounding strap, not one of those strapless ones. This is very much a do as I say don't do as I do thing as I don't bother with straps BUT I have killed a BIOS chip on a mother board. Luckily for me it was an older board from a time when they allowed you to replace the chips. Don't worry too much about the CPU pins, you have to be supremely cack-handed to bend a pin. Take static discharge prevention measures and you should be trouble free.
What you need to do is read up on thermal paste and proper application methods, I hate the stuff. In fact I'd recommend using thermal tape, you won't get as good a result as using paste but it is a lot easier to use.
That is an awesome service. Is that just the CPU cooler or aftermarket as well? Well worth it if you can avoid messing with paste. Have I mentioned how much I hate thermal paste?Wolfram23 said:
You have to get your hands dirty sooner or later. I say jump in with both feet.
Ironically there totally isoctafish said:
I actually got my system prebuilt for cheaper than it would of been to buy the individual components. I originally wanted to build mine myself with the help of a friend, but saving a few hundred bucks sounded a loooot better.
Huh. It's like watching an inverse shark feeding frenzy. Just be aware; you don't need to spend that much money.
For TF2 (And most AAA games on low settings) you needn't go beyond 2007 parts. $500 will get you a system that'll play most everything through, probably, the start of the next console generation.
$1500? It'll get you a system that'll play everything on high for at least three years, and with minor upgrades (graphics card), for the entire next console generation, most like.
I'm not really sure which option is best for your state, although most in the thread seem to be set on the $1500 version. Choose well, but anything you choose will serve.
Captcha: "Hobson's Choice." Not quite topical, but still... dang. It's like it reads the thread or something.
For TF2 (And most AAA games on low settings) you needn't go beyond 2007 parts. $500 will get you a system that'll play most everything through, probably, the start of the next console generation.
$1500? It'll get you a system that'll play everything on high for at least three years, and with minor upgrades (graphics card), for the entire next console generation, most like.
I'm not really sure which option is best for your state, although most in the thread seem to be set on the $1500 version. Choose well, but anything you choose will serve.
Captcha: "Hobson's Choice." Not quite topical, but still... dang. It's like it reads the thread or something.
there have been alot of good suggestions in here, that build will fucking blow everything away for probably the next two years, and that monitor will last you until it dies for being so fucking nice compared to the average now a days, so expect a damn good setup OP
Aftermarket as well. This is a pic of how I received my mobo/CPU/cooler on my very first build ever a couple years ago:octafish said:
Although now they'll even stick the RAM in for you. So basically all you gotta do is put the mobo in the case, put in the PSU, GPU, and HDD, then connect the wires.
Just so you know, you probably could get a PC that does all that for about $500-$800. The build that Mathew suggested is great, but it sounds like you are wanting to keep using your consoles. Even at the rate I suggesting, you probably will find yourself ignoring new releases on the consoles and waiting for the PC ports.Westaway said:Hey guys. I doubt I need to explain my situation to you, you poor bastards get this kind of thread once a week. I'm 16, and I know fuck all about computers. I decided I should stop being such a computer dumb ass, so this summer I want to build my own PC from scratch.
What purpose would it serve? Well, I have my Xbox 360 for pretty much all of my AAA games. I will, how ever, use this PC to play some games. Games like TF2, Minecraft, and such on full capacity. If I would play any AAA games, it would only be on minimal settings. Besides that, I'd also use it for browsing the internet and such. I'll probably use Windows 7 or 8 depending on how long it takes me to make the damn thing.
I have done a bit of research before making this thread, but I'll admit I'm a bit over whelmed. Making the PC itself looks pretty simple, but I'v had pretty much no luck choosing my internals. So I have a couple questions.
1) How much money am I looking at here? I'm hoping to keep this under $1500. Is that naive? Am I asking it to do too much for that low a price?
2) How powerful a CPU and how much RAM will I need?
Any advice about anything would be awesome. PLEASE reccomend me different internals, PLEASE give me tips on how to build the thing once I've chosen.
Thanks for taking the time to read this. Any help is appreciated.
TL
Lastly, watch this video. I'm not a fan of AMD cards, and this is why:
They don't support the rendering of those Physx particles and objects. The game won't be broken with out it, but it does make it look SOO much better.
EDIT: Whatever you do, DO NOT buy a pre-built, unless you don't have anyone to help you, and you're too scared to try it yourself. There's so many issues with over heating and sub-standard hardware in pre-builts that it's just throwing money down a drain just to alleviate some of the hassle (or the best part IMO. building is fun).
Haha yeah that's a Zalman CNPS10X Extreme. It was on sale, so I had to get it! It actually was really good, just a single fan and pretty quiet. I still have it sitting in storage "just in case", now that I'm on water.Waaghpowa said:A couple of the regular forum using PC gamers are in Canada actually. I think I'm alone though all the way over here in TorontoWolfram23 said:
Also Holy balls that aftermarket cooler is massive.
Whoa whoa WHOA. Three Edmontonians in one thread?Wolfram23 said:
OT: Matthew94 nailed it. Me and Wolfram are local and are willing to help the actual building part of it.
GPU accelerated PhysX really isn't much of a selling point for Nvidia because so few games actually support it. There are only about 23 games that even use that feature, and only two of those have come out in the past year. PhysX might be important if The Batman Arkham games, Metro 2033, Mafia II, Alice Madness: Returns, or one of the other few PhysX enabled games are your favourite games.Signa said:
PhysX really hasn't taken off because it is Nvidia proprietary, game developers aren't interested in putting extra effort into a feature that the consoles can't use, and only a portion of the PC audience can use. As such I really wouldn't get an Nvidia card solely on the basis of PhysX unless some of the few PhysX enabled games are among your favourite titles.
This reminds me of a friend who met a lovely tourist while on vacation in Europe, and after talking for a half hour, realized that they both lived on the same street.Wolfram23 said:
I'm on the south side... the REALLY south side. South of Anthony Henday south side.