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FalloutJack said:
AdumbroDeus said:
FalloutJack said:
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FalloutJack said:
Games are art within the United States and now the supreme court has made a decision to constitutionally protect games in the same way as other media. Fabulous! Well, time to get to work then. Put on your monocles and follow me. If games are art, then we're the critics.

Now, give me a spoofy sort of artsy critique of a game of your choice, as silly or snobby as you like. You have that power, so let's see something funny.
Not everyone who watches movies is a movie critic...
Oh dear, you're not taking to the whole 'joke' premise, are you?



Rather.
I'm just annoyed cause it pokes fun at the idea that games are capable of having artistic merit, and wasn't even funny.


If people put half the effort they put into spewing these faux critiques into actually attempting to critique games then legitimate game criticism (as opposed to reviews) could actually be kicked off.
Oh, don't be such a party-pooper. It's a forum, not the world council debate.
But it informs attitudes, if we think that games are a joke, they will always be a joke.
 

FalloutJack

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AdumbroDeus said:
FalloutJack said:
AdumbroDeus said:
FalloutJack said:
AdumbroDeus said:
FalloutJack said:
Games are art within the United States and now the supreme court has made a decision to constitutionally protect games in the same way as other media. Fabulous! Well, time to get to work then. Put on your monocles and follow me. If games are art, then we're the critics.

Now, give me a spoofy sort of artsy critique of a game of your choice, as silly or snobby as you like. You have that power, so let's see something funny.
Not everyone who watches movies is a movie critic...
Oh dear, you're not taking to the whole 'joke' premise, are you?



Rather.
I'm just annoyed cause it pokes fun at the idea that games are capable of having artistic merit, and wasn't even funny.


If people put half the effort they put into spewing these faux critiques into actually attempting to critique games then legitimate game criticism (as opposed to reviews) could actually be kicked off.
Oh, don't be such a party-pooper. It's a forum, not the world council debate.
But it informs attitudes, if we think that games are a joke, they will always be a joke.
All well and good, but this thread is still about joking around. If you want to go make a statement in some kind of a serious way where it will have a definite impact on society, might I just say that this would be the last place to put it? I did say, right out, that this thread was for kidding around. You won't find serious debate here. You'll find inductees to the International House of Monocle-Wearing Badasses.
 

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FalloutJack said:
AdumbroDeus said:
FalloutJack said:
AdumbroDeus said:
FalloutJack said:
AdumbroDeus said:
FalloutJack said:
Games are art within the United States and now the supreme court has made a decision to constitutionally protect games in the same way as other media. Fabulous! Well, time to get to work then. Put on your monocles and follow me. If games are art, then we're the critics.

Now, give me a spoofy sort of artsy critique of a game of your choice, as silly or snobby as you like. You have that power, so let's see something funny.
Not everyone who watches movies is a movie critic...
Oh dear, you're not taking to the whole 'joke' premise, are you?



Rather.
I'm just annoyed cause it pokes fun at the idea that games are capable of having artistic merit, and wasn't even funny.


If people put half the effort they put into spewing these faux critiques into actually attempting to critique games then legitimate game criticism (as opposed to reviews) could actually be kicked off.
Oh, don't be such a party-pooper. It's a forum, not the world council debate.
But it informs attitudes, if we think that games are a joke, they will always be a joke.
All well and good, but this thread is still about joking around. If you want to go make a statement in some kind of a serious way where it will have a definite impact on society, might I just say that this would be the last place to put it? I did say, right out, that this thread was for kidding around. You won't find serious debate here. You'll find inductees to the International House of Monocle-Wearing Badasses.
*dramatically puts on monocle*

You sir, are unfit to wear the monocle which you posses. I challenge you to a duel immediately!


*whips out and wields codfish menacingly*
 

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Well, since we're on about it, What is the Masterpiece video game and what separates them from the average snot on the canvas?
Maybe games made under the unreal engine would have it's own genre about said snot.

"Unrealism?"
 

FalloutJack

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AdumbroDeus said:
FalloutJack said:
AdumbroDeus said:
FalloutJack said:
AdumbroDeus said:
FalloutJack said:
AdumbroDeus said:
FalloutJack said:
Games are art within the United States and now the supreme court has made a decision to constitutionally protect games in the same way as other media. Fabulous! Well, time to get to work then. Put on your monocles and follow me. If games are art, then we're the critics.

Now, give me a spoofy sort of artsy critique of a game of your choice, as silly or snobby as you like. You have that power, so let's see something funny.
Not everyone who watches movies is a movie critic...
Oh dear, you're not taking to the whole 'joke' premise, are you?



Rather.
I'm just annoyed cause it pokes fun at the idea that games are capable of having artistic merit, and wasn't even funny.


If people put half the effort they put into spewing these faux critiques into actually attempting to critique games then legitimate game criticism (as opposed to reviews) could actually be kicked off.
Oh, don't be such a party-pooper. It's a forum, not the world council debate.
But it informs attitudes, if we think that games are a joke, they will always be a joke.
All well and good, but this thread is still about joking around. If you want to go make a statement in some kind of a serious way where it will have a definite impact on society, might I just say that this would be the last place to put it? I did say, right out, that this thread was for kidding around. You won't find serious debate here. You'll find inductees to the International House of Monocle-Wearing Badasses.
*dramatically puts on monocle*

You sir, are unfit to wear the monocle which you posses. I challenge you to a duel immediately!


*whips out and wields codfish menacingly*
I must warn you. I've played this game before, sir, and I know how to win it.


Halibut you!
 

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wootsman said:
This is whats considered art nowadays I want no part of it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13660478
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Couldn't agree with you more. Considering I could wipe my ass after crapping and call it art. It shall be called "Representation of Modern day shooters". I think i could be onto something.
Joking(Mostly)
 

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Macgyvercas said:
ninonybox360 said:
Ghengis John said:
Well not all games are art. Much like the movies. Just because something can be art, doesn't mean that it by necessity, is. While some might argue that the qualifications are subjective, it's important to stay objective. Nobody would argue the Micheal Bay or Uwe Boll compendiums are art. In the same fashion, trying to defend every game with the art banner only serves to stretch the banner thin and weaken credibility.
This makes perfect sense, a gif for your post sir.
Any chance you can make a gif of Holo and Lawrence dancing (like from the season 2 opening)?

OT: I suppose now we'll have to ward off the art haters as well as the VG haters. I say, this should be an interesting show.
This was hell to make
 

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The intense psychological torture of mute, bespectacled, physicist and protagonist Gordon Freeman in Half-Life is a work that takes influences from Harlan Ellison's 'I have no mouth and I must scream' and the surrealist works of Charlie Kaufman and outstrips them in every respect. The mundanity of Gordon's daily life is reflected in a superb opening sequence in which you spend 15 minutes gormlessly staring outside a tram window. His colleagues seem to be identical and only blurt out monosyllabic platitudes, clearly echoing the authors misanthropy towards the homogenous masses. I theorise that the resonance cascade, had actually resulted in an explosion killing Gordon and horrofic events that followed are either Gordon's last moments or experiencing Limbo. The enemies are representative of his own subconscious, seeing the Vortigaunts are race that has been enslaved to arbitrarily be sent to their deaths in the pursuit of a meaningless cause, resembling those who have been broken down into an obsequious state, blindly obeying the system and being forced HERP DERP MORE PRETENTIOUS OVER ANALYSED BULLSHIT YOU GET THE POINT.
 

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ninonybox360 said:
Macgyvercas said:
ninonybox360 said:
Ghengis John said:
Well not all games are art. Much like the movies. Just because something can be art, doesn't mean that it by necessity, is. While some might argue that the qualifications are subjective, it's important to stay objective. Nobody would argue the Micheal Bay or Uwe Boll compendiums are art. In the same fashion, trying to defend every game with the art banner only serves to stretch the banner thin and weaken credibility.
This makes perfect sense, a gif for your post sir.
Any chance you can make a gif of Holo and Lawrence dancing (like from the season 2 opening)?

OT: I suppose now we'll have to ward off the art haters as well as the VG haters. I say, this should be an interesting show.
This was hell to make
It doesn't seem to show up at the moment. Broken link?
 

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Macgyvercas said:
ninonybox360 said:
Macgyvercas said:
ninonybox360 said:
Ghengis John said:
Well not all games are art. Much like the movies. Just because something can be art, doesn't mean that it by necessity, is. While some might argue that the qualifications are subjective, it's important to stay objective. Nobody would argue the Micheal Bay or Uwe Boll compendiums are art. In the same fashion, trying to defend every game with the art banner only serves to stretch the banner thin and weaken credibility.
This makes perfect sense, a gif for your post sir.
Any chance you can make a gif of Holo and Lawrence dancing (like from the season 2 opening)?

OT: I suppose now we'll have to ward off the art haters as well as the VG haters. I say, this should be an interesting show.
This was hell to make
It doesn't seem to show up at the moment. Broken link?


(note: I suck at making gifs)
(other note: fuck...fuck...FUCK! TRYING TO UPLOAD THIS THING TO ANY IMAGE SITE WAS HELL. I tried using photobucket but they fucked everything up, tried imageshack....im not subscribing, tried funnyjunk comment...nope, finally I went to a direct upload for photobucket and finally it worked....and yes...the gif may be shit...BUT IT WAS A HARD AND PAINFUL SHIT.
 

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Tetris represents the futility of life and the inevitability of death. The falling blocks represent life's ubiquitous problems (illness, relationships, finance, etc.); the destruction of the blocks - the Sisyphean task of overcoming those problems. As more problems are eliminated, ever more appear, until inevitably, one is crushed by their overwhelming gravity. As Sisyphus was compelled to endlessly roll the rock up the hill, we are compelled to continually destroy the Tetris blocks. But it is futile. It is futile because conquest is impossible. Problems surmount and we inevitably die. /wrist
 

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FalloutJack said:
AdumbroDeus said:
FalloutJack said:
AdumbroDeus said:
FalloutJack said:
AdumbroDeus said:
FalloutJack said:
AdumbroDeus said:
FalloutJack said:
Games are art within the United States and now the supreme court has made a decision to constitutionally protect games in the same way as other media. Fabulous! Well, time to get to work then. Put on your monocles and follow me. If games are art, then we're the critics.

Now, give me a spoofy sort of artsy critique of a game of your choice, as silly or snobby as you like. You have that power, so let's see something funny.
Not everyone who watches movies is a movie critic...
Oh dear, you're not taking to the whole 'joke' premise, are you?



Rather.
I'm just annoyed cause it pokes fun at the idea that games are capable of having artistic merit, and wasn't even funny.


If people put half the effort they put into spewing these faux critiques into actually attempting to critique games then legitimate game criticism (as opposed to reviews) could actually be kicked off.
Oh, don't be such a party-pooper. It's a forum, not the world council debate.
But it informs attitudes, if we think that games are a joke, they will always be a joke.
All well and good, but this thread is still about joking around. If you want to go make a statement in some kind of a serious way where it will have a definite impact on society, might I just say that this would be the last place to put it? I did say, right out, that this thread was for kidding around. You won't find serious debate here. You'll find inductees to the International House of Monocle-Wearing Badasses.
*dramatically puts on monocle*

You sir, are unfit to wear the monocle which you posses. I challenge you to a duel immediately!


*whips out and wields codfish menacingly*
I must warn you. I've played this game before, sir, and I know how to win it.


Halibut you!
Good, then maybe you shall even be a challenge, have at you!

ATOMIC ULTIMATE MEGA TRANSCENDENT FISH SLAP MARK 12!
 

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Erana said:
Ghengis John said:
Well not all games are art. Much like the movies. Just because something can be art, doesn't mean that it by necessity, is. While some might argue that the qualifications are subjective, it's important to stay objective. Nobody would argue the Micheal Bay or Uwe Boll compendiums are art. In the same fashion, trying to defend every game with the art banner only serves to stretch the banner thin and weaken credibility.
They're all art, some are just much more kitschy than others.

Like comparing Monet to a ceramic garden gnome.
So...What's your definition of art exactly?
 

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Hold on one sec. I need to don my gear....

Ready!


Bioshock and Bioshock 2 depict the inherent flaws in the human condition. The former shows us the inherent instability and corruptibility of a purely capitalistic environment. While the latter shows us the inherent instability and corruptibility of a purely Marxist environment. They both serve to highlight ideological failures, but the truly fascinating aspect is the emphases they both put into the sublime message that power corrupts over time. Plasmids are in themselves the very metaphor of power. The ability to change one's self to become what is considered "better" comes at a price in the long term. That price only coming to pass when the power is used for extended periods of time or in very large quantities during a short period of time. The metaphor of corruption can be seen externally on any splicer with their grossly deformed, yet still human, bodies. The corruption metaphor does not stop there though. It is taken one step further with the mental degradation of the splicers. They are so taken by the power that they don't consciously realize the physical deformation or the current state of their world. These works then add another physiological layer with the masks worn by said splicers. One could surmise that subconsciously the splicers realize what they have become and strive to hide the tale tale signs of their corruption.

Good day sir.
>Takes off monocle and mustache<

FalloutJack said:
Was that classy enough, or do I have to go too far enough and put on my elitist top hat as well?
 

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So, uh... Whatever happened to just playing a f***ing game for fun? Those days just seem so far behind now...
I personally dislike this statement. It seems to to imply that you cannot have both.

There's nothing wrong with just playing a game for fun. Just as there's nothing wrong with praising a game that went above and beyond to make a game that was artistic as well as fun.

A game being artsy, and a game being fun, arn't mutually exclusive. You can do both.

That said, you know what really matters to your gameplaying experience? If you're enjoying yourself. If YOU like a game, then everyone else's oppinions don't matter. Heck, I LOVE Final Fantasy XIII. And you can complain or not complain all you want. It won't stop me from enjoying it.


That said, we won't get innovation, or anything above 'just fun', without praising that which goes above and beyond.


An artistic game, is like a cuisine prepared by a master chef. Its expensive, and hard to make, but worth it. However, if thats all you eat, you'll soon find yourself broke.

A 'for fun' game, is like macaroni and cheese. Its certainly passable, and it'll fill you up. But you won't remember it three days down the line. Its just 'a meal', as opposed to 'a delight for the tastebuds'. Does that make sense?
 

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AdumbroDeus said:
FalloutJack said:
AdumbroDeus said:
FalloutJack said:
AdumbroDeus said:
FalloutJack said:
AdumbroDeus said:
FalloutJack said:
AdumbroDeus said:
FalloutJack said:
Games are art within the United States and now the supreme court has made a decision to constitutionally protect games in the same way as other media. Fabulous! Well, time to get to work then. Put on your monocles and follow me. If games are art, then we're the critics.

Now, give me a spoofy sort of artsy critique of a game of your choice, as silly or snobby as you like. You have that power, so let's see something funny.
Not everyone who watches movies is a movie critic...
Oh dear, you're not taking to the whole 'joke' premise, are you?



Rather.
I'm just annoyed cause it pokes fun at the idea that games are capable of having artistic merit, and wasn't even funny.


If people put half the effort they put into spewing these faux critiques into actually attempting to critique games then legitimate game criticism (as opposed to reviews) could actually be kicked off.
Oh, don't be such a party-pooper. It's a forum, not the world council debate.
But it informs attitudes, if we think that games are a joke, they will always be a joke.
All well and good, but this thread is still about joking around. If you want to go make a statement in some kind of a serious way where it will have a definite impact on society, might I just say that this would be the last place to put it? I did say, right out, that this thread was for kidding around. You won't find serious debate here. You'll find inductees to the International House of Monocle-Wearing Badasses.
*dramatically puts on monocle*

You sir, are unfit to wear the monocle which you posses. I challenge you to a duel immediately!


*whips out and wields codfish menacingly*
I must warn you. I've played this game before, sir, and I know how to win it.


Halibut you!
Good, then maybe you shall even be a challenge, have at you!

ATOMIC ULTIMATE MEGA TRANSCENDENT FISH SLAP MARK 12!
*bows head in shame, removing monicle and letting it dangle*

I must apologize. For I mistakenly placed a serious comment upon this honorable thread. I have forever shamed myself, and my family.



And my dog.





And whomever happened to consider me a 'friend'.






And Joe the Plumber.
 

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Lullabye said:
LuckyClover95 said:
I think Fallout 3 represents what would happen if we had a nuclear war. Oh wait.... it did.
Personally, I think LittleBigPlanet, on a deep level, represents the Holocaust. Somehow.
I could see them making a 'The Day the Clown Cried' adaptation in LBP2.
"Everyone! Follow the nice Clown into the showers!"
oh jeez.
I blame Cracked.com for making me watch that film.
:O
*mouth drops open*
I read that article yesterday! JUST YESTERDAY! Its awesome when people have read the same things that you have! What a fucking creepy film! I'm guessing its not actually any good, but I thought it sounded like it had potential.
 

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AdumbroDeus said:
Good, then maybe you shall even be a challenge, have at you!

ATOMIC ULTIMATE MEGA TRANSCENDENT FISH SLAP MARK 12!
No no, Geneva outlawed those except in the of Code Cthulhu Emergencies under the Eldritch Abomination Defense Act of 1923. Strange that, considering atomic weaponry wasn't developed 'till much later. Ah well.

Sarge034 said:
Perfectly fine, good chap! I say...I remember that touty top hats were suppose to be at my sister's wedding, yet I did not see one upon anybody's head!
 
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Farmville is obviously a comment on the rampant capitalism and materialism in the modern world today, and Zynga's follow up piece is a focus on the development of it during the 1800s, albeit an abstract one. The ironic audacity to include an in-game store and microtransactions is the best statement made in casual games to date and the sheer success of the store stands as testament to the message the game tries to portray.