RIP PC gaming?

[KSarty]

Everyone is so high of themselves, it doesn't matter what platform

This. I said it earlier and Pendragon simply chose to ignore it, so I'll say it again. Every platform has it's fanboys, they are ALL annoying and worthless, don't act like it is something only the PC is plagued with.

PC gaming is here to stay, or did nobody else read the article a week or two ago that indicated PC gaming is doing better in the recession than any of the consoles?

 

[Boron00]

AS much as I hope PC gaming never dies it may be inching ever closer and Microsoft seems to be the one doing the pushing ironically enough. With the Hulu type stuff, Twitter, Facebook and full downloadable 360 games straight to your hard drive from the internet coming it may not be too far off.

Like I have been trying to get across to people. PC can do all of that stuff and better, its like the whole looking up porn on the DSi, why don't you just do it on your PC! PC will always have better things then the Xbox and for that reason it will never die.

 

[Halfbreed13]

Everyone is so high of themselves, it doesn't matter what platform

This. I said it earlier and Pendragon simply chose to ignore it, so I'll say it again. Every platform has it's fanboys, they are ALL annoying and worthless, don't act like it is something only the PC is plagued with.

PC gaming is here to stay, or did nobody else read the article a week or two ago that indicated PC gaming is doing better in the recession than any of the consoles?

Do research and have facts? NEVAR

 

[Boron00]

It's only a matter of time a web browser will be implemented on the 360 at this rate. Don't get me wrong. I'm still a PC gamer at heart. It's just not looking promising for the future though. Eventually Consoles like the Xbox 720 or w/e the f you want to call it will probably just be a PC in console form.

Ur not getting the point lol

 

[tenlong]

Biggest advantages of the PC: Anybody with a little know how can start programming a video game for the PC and - even more important - I can enter a ten year old CD into my PC and start the game. Try this with your PS1 games.

You can play ps1 on the ps3 .

As can the pc, hi hi emulators.

True but the ps3 does it right of the box running better than it did on the ps1. Emulators are sometimes laggy or low res. But if you got a really good one yeah. I have seen some emulators have problems running nes games.

Unless they've seriously changed this, only the original 60GB and 20GB PS3's were backwards compatible out of the box. The next editions, the 80GB and 60GB ones that came out after the originals, were backwards compatible with some games, but only after you downloaded some software emulation that actually took up space on the harddrive of the PS3. For any models that came out after that, you were shit out of luck. So, really, this point is kind of moot, methinks.

It's all a matter of personal preference. PC gaming won't ever die because the market is still big enough to keep it afloat almost indefinitely. The statistics are always skewed, because almost everyone owns a PC, and almost everyone owns at least one game to be played on said computer. However, in this day and age, almost everyone who considers themself a "gamer" also has a console. In that respect, the statistics for gaming platforms are always skewed, because people always qualify in more than one column, even if you're only doing console vs. PC.

I, personally, have all three of the new-gen consoles and a gaming PC, but my preference is, and always will be, PC gaming. It just feels better for me. And that's what it comes down to. There are just as many people who prefer the feel of gaming on a PC to that of gaming on a console, and they keep the market afloat.

On top of this, all technology developers have been adding functional capabilities to their products to run with PC's. What I mean to say is that stuff like TV's and stereos have been becoming increasingly functional with PC's. You can hook your PC up to your 56" TV now, and run the sound into your 12.1 surround sound system, grab a wireless keyboard and mouse (or controller, if you prefer), sit on your couch and play away. The reason that consoles have excelled so much for so long is because, until recently, this wasn't possible with a PC. But it is, and the technology is continuing to advance.

In the long run, consoles will most likely become obsolete long before PC's, mostly because the only reason people enjoy them as much as they do is because they enjoy the casual, living-room play style that accompanies them. But if the PC can do that too, and you already own a PC for other reasons, why not combine it all onto one machine and save yourself a good chunk of change? If it's the controller issue that throws people off, as I said before, you can run a PC game using a controller, so that's a non-issue. Really, there's no excuse to play a game on a console instead of on a PC, unless the game isn't available. And that is an issue that is continually being addressed more and more with each passing year.

Long story short? PC gaming won't die, it perpetually evolves and adapts, much better than consoles can.

*Win*
You earned a cookie

Sob i got owned so bad . I am going to kill myself. Not! My Ps3 will run anything except for 2 games it freezes on after 30 or so min. I got like 200 + ps1 and ps2 games. so that is more than 99.5 % Bug free emulation. I have nothing against pc gaming. It doesn't have as many badass exclusives as it used to in the late 90's and 2000's. Hell people thought we have never arcade perfect ports to the consoles. They were wrong. It reminds me of fallout 3. I seen screen shots comparing the 360 and pc versions . It was barely noticibly better on the pc. It most likely ran smoother. Back to my point, halfbreed13 what are you a kid. Praising people getting owned on the internet is not the most mature thing to do. As i said my ps3 does about perfect emulation. I could care less what other ps3s can do. As last i heard all ps3 had complete ps1 emulation. Unless they changed it.

 

[DeathQuaker]

As long as PCs exist, there will be games made for them (after all, you need a PC to design a video game anyway, even if it ends up as a console game). Their mainstream availability and popularity will, as ever, fluctuate cyclically, depending on technologies available, the economy, and so forth.

I think one thing that caused the PC to dip in massive gamer appeal was, as Shamus Young talked about in one of his recent articles here, the advancement of the GPU. I imagine as technologies continue to develop and re-merge, we're at some point going to see "average" PCs with more powerful and cheaper GPUs that will be able to run nice looking games. Heck, even now I'm noticing a lot of games coming out that have LOWER system reqs than last year (I can't run Crysis (well, who can?) but I can run Fallout 3 and the Sims 3 on my 3 year old gaming laptop)... devs are realizing that if they design a game for something that will only run on a $2,000+ PC, it vastly restricts its potential buy audience. Sure, your audience will be guaranteed to be "hard core" (I am defining that as "People who spend a ridiculous crapload of money on their gaming PCs"), but that overall audience will be small. Make PC games more accessible (as they are likely to become) and they will continue to do fine.

What I find ironic is how, as mentioned in this thread, consoles themselves are basically turning into cheap, dedicated gaming PCs. Add a keyboard and a web browser and maybe a word processor to your 360 and you basically have a cheap Windows machine. I'm not sure what I make of this phenomenon, when the way they have made consoles more PC-like has made them more complex. Far more often, console players are now downloading most of their software and amongst that, a lot of patches to fix buggy on release games (I thought that was something only PC gamers got to enjoy ). But in seriousness, for me, personally, a draw to the console was its simple, plug'n'play concept. You pop the disc or cart in and go. Not any more. Mind, I say this all primarily as a PC gamer, but I went to a console when I wanted a break from my PC. Console gaming has become nearly as complicated as PC gaming, so I find myself still with my PS2 (no new "next-gen" consoles) when I want something different, and otherwise I keep playing on ye old laptop because if I'm going to have to download and patch my games and watch my hard drive space, I may as well do it in a format where I can also get easily moddable content, and if I have a problem, it's easier to troubleshoot myself.

I'm curious to see how consoles and PC gaming will continue to evolve, but again, I'm certain that as long as people own PCs, there will be games available for them.

 

[Halfbreed13]

Biggest advantages of the PC: Anybody with a little know how can start programming a video game for the PC and - even more important - I can enter a ten year old CD into my PC and start the game. Try this with your PS1 games.

You can play ps1 on the ps3 .

As can the pc, hi hi emulators.

True but the ps3 does it right of the box running better than it did on the ps1. Emulators are sometimes laggy or low res. But if you got a really good one yeah. I have seen some emulators have problems running nes games.

Unless they've seriously changed this, only the original 60GB and 20GB PS3's were backwards compatible out of the box. The next editions, the 80GB and 60GB ones that came out after the originals, were backwards compatible with some games, but only after you downloaded some software emulation that actually took up space on the harddrive of the PS3. For any models that came out after that, you were shit out of luck. So, really, this point is kind of moot, methinks.

It's all a matter of personal preference. PC gaming won't ever die because the market is still big enough to keep it afloat almost indefinitely. The statistics are always skewed, because almost everyone owns a PC, and almost everyone owns at least one game to be played on said computer. However, in this day and age, almost everyone who considers themself a "gamer" also has a console. In that respect, the statistics for gaming platforms are always skewed, because people always qualify in more than one column, even if you're only doing console vs. PC.

I, personally, have all three of the new-gen consoles and a gaming PC, but my preference is, and always will be, PC gaming. It just feels better for me. And that's what it comes down to. There are just as many people who prefer the feel of gaming on a PC to that of gaming on a console, and they keep the market afloat.

On top of this, all technology developers have been adding functional capabilities to their products to run with PC's. What I mean to say is that stuff like TV's and stereos have been becoming increasingly functional with PC's. You can hook your PC up to your 56" TV now, and run the sound into your 12.1 surround sound system, grab a wireless keyboard and mouse (or controller, if you prefer), sit on your couch and play away. The reason that consoles have excelled so much for so long is because, until recently, this wasn't possible with a PC. But it is, and the technology is continuing to advance.

In the long run, consoles will most likely become obsolete long before PC's, mostly because the only reason people enjoy them as much as they do is because they enjoy the casual, living-room play style that accompanies them. But if the PC can do that too, and you already own a PC for other reasons, why not combine it all onto one machine and save yourself a good chunk of change? If it's the controller issue that throws people off, as I said before, you can run a PC game using a controller, so that's a non-issue. Really, there's no excuse to play a game on a console instead of on a PC, unless the game isn't available. And that is an issue that is continually being addressed more and more with each passing year.

Long story short? PC gaming won't die, it perpetually evolves and adapts, much better than consoles can.

*Win*
You earned a cookie

Sob i got owned so bad . I am going to kill myself. Not! My Ps3 will run anything except for 2 games it freezes on after 30 or so min. I got like 200 + ps1 and ps2 games. so that is more than 99.5 % Bug free emulation. I have nothing against pc gaming. It doesn't have as many badass exclusives as it used to in the late 90's and 2000's. Hell people thought we have never arcade perfect ports to the consoles. They were wrong. It reminds me of fallout 3. I seen screen shots comparing the 360 and pc versions . It was barely noticibly better on the pc. It most likely ran smoother. Back to my point, halfbreed13 what are you a kid. Praising people getting owned on the internet is not the most mature thing to do. As i said my ps3 does about perfect emulation. I could care less what other ps3s can do. As last i heard all ps3 had complete ps1 emulation. Unless they changed it.

whoa calm down I expressed my support for his statement. Maybe in an odd manner but does that matter? No? Then come up with real statements if you want to attack me.

 

[A random person]

Last time it flared up was 2007 from a supposed disparity between the two, and that was more of it being a good year for gaming in general than anything else. I'm a PC gamer, and the only 2 real problems I have are some instability (will never finish Fallout 3 thanks to Bethesda's shit debugging, my computer had 3 major crashes that required manual restarting thanks to it) and that Valve stubbornly insists that you go online first before you can play (not a problem most of the time, but I had internet outages and that had me pissed).

And about RTS's on consoles, that's mostly bull. Yes they're there, but all of them have some significant problem with controls or functioning.

 

[Ace of Spades]

PC gaming died for me with GTA IV for PC.

 

[Boron00]

Biggest advantages of the PC: Anybody with a little know how can start programming a video game for the PC and - even more important - I can enter a ten year old CD into my PC and start the game. Try this with your PS1 games.

You can play ps1 on the ps3 .

As can the pc, hi hi emulators.

True but the ps3 does it right of the box running better than it did on the ps1. Emulators are sometimes laggy or low res. But if you got a really good one yeah. I have seen some emulators have problems running nes games.

Unless they've seriously changed this, only the original 60GB and 20GB PS3's were backwards compatible out of the box. The next editions, the 80GB and 60GB ones that came out after the originals, were backwards compatible with some games, but only after you downloaded some software emulation that actually took up space on the harddrive of the PS3. For any models that came out after that, you were shit out of luck. So, really, this point is kind of moot, methinks.

It's all a matter of personal preference. PC gaming won't ever die because the market is still big enough to keep it afloat almost indefinitely. The statistics are always skewed, because almost everyone owns a PC, and almost everyone owns at least one game to be played on said computer. However, in this day and age, almost everyone who considers themself a "gamer" also has a console. In that respect, the statistics for gaming platforms are always skewed, because people always qualify in more than one column, even if you're only doing console vs. PC.

I, personally, have all three of the new-gen consoles and a gaming PC, but my preference is, and always will be, PC gaming. It just feels better for me. And that's what it comes down to. There are just as many people who prefer the feel of gaming on a PC to that of gaming on a console, and they keep the market afloat.

On top of this, all technology developers have been adding functional capabilities to their products to run with PC's. What I mean to say is that stuff like TV's and stereos have been becoming increasingly functional with PC's. You can hook your PC up to your 56" TV now, and run the sound into your 12.1 surround sound system, grab a wireless keyboard and mouse (or controller, if you prefer), sit on your couch and play away. The reason that consoles have excelled so much for so long is because, until recently, this wasn't possible with a PC. But it is, and the technology is continuing to advance.

In the long run, consoles will most likely become obsolete long before PC's, mostly because the only reason people enjoy them as much as they do is because they enjoy the casual, living-room play style that accompanies them. But if the PC can do that too, and you already own a PC for other reasons, why not combine it all onto one machine and save yourself a good chunk of change? If it's the controller issue that throws people off, as I said before, you can run a PC game using a controller, so that's a non-issue. Really, there's no excuse to play a game on a console instead of on a PC, unless the game isn't available. And that is an issue that is continually being addressed more and more with each passing year.

Long story short? PC gaming won't die, it perpetually evolves and adapts, much better than consoles can.

*Win*
You earned a cookie

Sob i got owned so bad . I am going to kill myself. Not! My Ps3 will run anything except for 2 games it freezes on after 30 or so min. I got like 200 + ps1 and ps2 games. so that is more than 99.5 % Bug free emulation. I have nothing against pc gaming. It doesn't have as many badass exclusives as it used to in the late 90's and 2000's. Hell people thought we have never arcade perfect ports to the consoles. They were wrong. It reminds me of fallout 3. I seen screen shots comparing the 360 and pc versions . It was barely noticibly better on the pc. It most likely ran smoother. Back to my point, halfbreed13 what are you a kid. Praising people getting owned on the internet is not the most mature thing to do. As i said my ps3 does about perfect emulation. I could care less what other ps3s can do. As last i heard all ps3 had complete ps1 emulation. Unless they changed it.

First off, there is a big difference between the PC graphics and the 360 graphics. The PC has a better graphical capability than the 360. A good computer runs fallout 3 way better than the 360. I know, my brother just built a computer, played fallout 3 on it and it was like being there and I have seen the Xbox 360 version and it does not compare.

Also attacking half-breed is so immature and you think you are the better one by trying to say he is immature. You are just as just as immature as you think he is, so get over yourself and think about why he is doing it ( here's a hint : because gaming doesn't have to be serious (gasp!).)

 

[neurohazzard]

Undemanding MMOs and Casual Web gaming will thrive, but "cutting-edge" AAA games will start to only appear on consoles, not because of Piracy and DRM, but because the average PC gamer won't be able to afford to upgrade indefinitely. I give it about 2-3 years.

Guess how long people have been saying that. Guess. At least since PS1.

You mustn't say EA makes PC games. They are sellouts that make 20 expansions and are a joke of the gaming scene. They destroy any potential any game has.

People have been saying that since the 80s. It's not going anywhere.

Yep. Pretty much.

Ah, found the picture:

Dunno if it's been said yet, but I sincerely hope EA gives up on PC games, those tards screw up everything they touch and I'd like them off the PC game scene thank you

 

[devildog1170]

Even if devs stop making PC games, I can honestly say that the PC gaming community might get everyone together and start making their own damn games in their free time. Considering all you need is a PC to do this, it could happen. But I doubt that it will ever come to that

 

[Pendragon9]

Well, I don't see the PC going anywhere. It has great exclusives like... uhh... Diablo and... uh... Warcraft and Starcraft! And...

Did I mention Diablo?

And the fans are always nice. They don't act like snobs, claiming console players are jerks. They certainly aren't asses who like to spout how awesome they are and constantly put others down because they're so stupidly snobbish they'd rather hate people than just enjoy their games.

Nope. Not at all.

Yea, and I totally don't get every time I go on Xbox live :

"Oh well you just suck"

and

"Well your mom"

and

"HALO IS THE BEST GAME EVER"

and

"I JUST PWNED THIS MATCH"

Those things are never said at all

P.S. : KSarty ur avatar is awesome!

I have a Ps3 by the way. Your comment just flew right over into "I couldn't care" Territory.

Oh, and if you try and correct your mistake, you lose.

Also, I see you didn't counter me. Which means you agree that PC snobs are the most sickening people in the world.

Anyone who thinks they should divide gamers into groups based on their platform and then elevate their own should be castrated. That said, you will always have console tards and pc elitists so hush up and let the big boys talk.

Whoa whoa. I'm trying to rectify the problem. Don't throw your anger at me. But you must admit what I say is true. PC users are always so high of themselves.

Okay WTF is with this thing about PC elitist. When did elitism become bad? Elitism isn't bad it's how it is and always has worked until recently and now it has stopped because all of the babies and losers crying to their mommies. If something is better like the PC, and I can say this because the PC has and can do everything the the consoles can do and better, it should have the right to show itself and be established as superior. Just because you bought a bad system and think you wasted your money doesn't mean you have the right to *****.

BECAUSE IT'S NOT BETTER. That's what makes you a snob. Console gaming has helped video games become what they are today. PC gaming is fun and all, but it's not the best thing in the world.

If you disagree, I'd like to see some points why. The PC is automatically not the best gaming platform because it lacks so many exclusives of the console games. Not to mention not everyone likes to play on a keyboard or have to shell out money to buy an additional controller.

Do you hate consoles so bad? Why? Why do you have to be so arrogant and selfish when it comes to consoles? Did they touch you at a young age and you have repressed feelings? Yeesh.

You're no better than a fanboy.

 

[Clashero]

Monkey Island remake

My heart is fluttering.

 

[lacktheknack]

EA has never have good Console to PC ports, and you seem to be forgetting, Consoles are susceptible to piracy too.

Mirror's Edge was MUCH better on PC than on console. So EA hasn't failed this area entirely...

 

[tenlong]

Biggest advantages of the PC: Anybody with a little know how can start programming a video game for the PC and - even more important - I can enter a ten year old CD into my PC and start the game. Try this with your PS1 games.

You can play ps1 on the ps3 .

As can the pc, hi hi emulators.

True but the ps3 does it right of the box running better than it did on the ps1. Emulators are sometimes laggy or low res. But if you got a really good one yeah. I have seen some emulators have problems running nes games.

Unless they've seriously changed this, only the original 60GB and 20GB PS3's were backwards compatible out of the box. The next editions, the 80GB and 60GB ones that came out after the originals, were backwards compatible with some games, but only after you downloaded some software emulation that actually took up space on the harddrive of the PS3. For any models that came out after that, you were shit out of luck. So, really, this point is kind of moot, methinks.

It's all a matter of personal preference. PC gaming won't ever die because the market is still big enough to keep it afloat almost indefinitely. The statistics are always skewed, because almost everyone owns a PC, and almost everyone owns at least one game to be played on said computer. However, in this day and age, almost everyone who considers themself a "gamer" also has a console. In that respect, the statistics for gaming platforms are always skewed, because people always qualify in more than one column, even if you're only doing console vs. PC.

I, personally, have all three of the new-gen consoles and a gaming PC, but my preference is, and always will be, PC gaming. It just feels better for me. And that's what it comes down to. There are just as many people who prefer the feel of gaming on a PC to that of gaming on a console, and they keep the market afloat.

On top of this, all technology developers have been adding functional capabilities to their products to run with PC's. What I mean to say is that stuff like TV's and stereos have been becoming increasingly functional with PC's. You can hook your PC up to your 56" TV now, and run the sound into your 12.1 surround sound system, grab a wireless keyboard and mouse (or controller, if you prefer), sit on your couch and play away. The reason that consoles have excelled so much for so long is because, until recently, this wasn't possible with a PC. But it is, and the technology is continuing to advance.

In the long run, consoles will most likely become obsolete long before PC's, mostly because the only reason people enjoy them as much as they do is because they enjoy the casual, living-room play style that accompanies them. But if the PC can do that too, and you already own a PC for other reasons, why not combine it all onto one machine and save yourself a good chunk of change? If it's the controller issue that throws people off, as I said before, you can run a PC game using a controller, so that's a non-issue. Really, there's no excuse to play a game on a console instead of on a PC, unless the game isn't available. And that is an issue that is continually being addressed more and more with each passing year.

Long story short? PC gaming won't die, it perpetually evolves and adapts, much better than consoles can.

*Win*
You earned a cookie

Sob i got owned so bad . I am going to kill myself. Not! My Ps3 will run anything except for 2 games it freezes on after 30 or so min. I got like 200 + ps1 and ps2 games. so that is more than 99.5 % Bug free emulation. I have nothing against pc gaming. It doesn't have as many badass exclusives as it used to in the late 90's and 2000's. Hell people thought we have never arcade perfect ports to the consoles. They were wrong. It reminds me of fallout 3. I seen screen shots comparing the 360 and pc versions . It was barely noticibly better on the pc. It most likely ran smoother. Back to my point, halfbreed13 what are you a kid. Praising people getting owned on the internet is not the most mature thing to do. As i said my ps3 does about perfect emulation. I could care less what other ps3s can do. As last i heard all ps3 had complete ps1 emulation. Unless they changed it.

whoa calm down I expressed my support for his statement. Maybe in an odd manner but does that matter? No? Then come up with real statements if you want to attack me.

I am not mad. I think it is fail to be like."Yeah man you won! You get a cookie!" It is internet who cares. Do i have to verified by the pope and macho man randy savage before it is a real statement? I gave MY OPINION so i am automatically wrong? This what i hate about a lot about of pc gamers. You much as say a console does something as good or near as a pc does . A lot of pc gamers get their panties in a twist about it . The pc is not perfect. The consoles are not perfect ether. All i said originally is MY ps3 has complete backwards playability.Also a lot of emulators are buggy and or laggy unless you have a good one. That's all i said.

 

[lacktheknack]

Well, I don't see the PC going anywhere. It has great exclusives like... uhh... Diablo and... uh... Warcraft and Starcraft! And...

Did I mention Diablo?

And the fans are always nice. They don't act like snobs, claiming console players are jerks. They certainly aren't asses who like to spout how awesome they are and constantly put others down because they're so stupidly snobbish they'd rather hate people than just enjoy their games.

Nope. Not at all.

Yea, and I totally don't get every time I go on Xbox live :

"Oh well you just suck"

and

"Well your mom"

and

"HALO IS THE BEST GAME EVER"

and

"I JUST PWNED THIS MATCH"

Those things are never said at all

P.S. : KSarty ur avatar is awesome!

I have a Ps3 by the way. Your comment just flew right over into "I couldn't care" Territory.

Oh, and if you try and correct your mistake, you lose.

Also, I see you didn't counter me. Which means you agree that PC snobs are the most sickening people in the world.

Anyone who thinks they should divide gamers into groups based on their platform and then elevate their own should be castrated. That said, you will always have console tards and pc elitists so hush up and let the big boys talk.

Whoa whoa. I'm trying to rectify the problem. Don't throw your anger at me. But you must admit what I say is true. PC users are always so high of themselves.

Okay WTF is with this thing about PC elitist. When did elitism become bad? Elitism isn't bad it's how it is and always has worked until recently and now it has stopped because all of the babies and losers crying to their mommies. If something is better like the PC, and I can say this because the PC has and can do everything the the consoles can do and better, it should have the right to show itself and be established as superior. Just because you bought a bad system and think you wasted your money doesn't mean you have the right to *****.

BECAUSE IT'S NOT BETTER. That's what makes you a snob. Console gaming has helped video games become what they are today. PC gaming is fun and all, but it's not the best thing in the world.

If you disagree, I'd like to see some points why. The PC is automatically not the best gaming platform because it lacks so many exclusives of the console games. Not to mention not everyone likes to play on a keyboard or have to shell out money to buy an additional controller.

Do you hate consoles so bad? Why? Why do you have to be such an arrogant selfish pig when it comes to consoles?

You're no better than a fanboy.

Well, I stopped using my consoles, but my PC is going strong... I like mouse/keyboard better than gamepad... it has WAAAAY more exclusives from the indie companies (you know, the good game makers?)... and it has the best backwards compatibility, what with virtual machines... PLUS it has tons of free, LEGAL stuff. That's why I like PCs better than consoles.