Rome II Total war just went up on steam...

[Snotnarok]

Uhhh...wait for the Steam Sale for it to drop or buy it on amazon, it'll probably go on steam anyway through amazon soooo yeah.
Steam usually has the cheaper prices but sometimes it comes down to waiting for the frequent sales. Okay Serious Sam HD probably isn't worth 20 bucks alone considering, oh you can buy HD FE and SE for 6 bucks? Sign me up.

 

[Abomination]

Just going to throw my Australian Steam Price in, $79.95 USD. If I was to buy today I would be saving 55c on the currency conversion!

I thought we in NZ shared your crazy-ass prices, but clearly not for everything. It's "only" 60USD for me.

I saw that too. I opened the page expecting my wallet to clench like a homophobe's ass at a gay convention but was pleasantly surprised by having a universal price.

My conspiracy theory is that Kim Dot Com being in the country has made it so we appear more prone to piracy so it's best to not give us any excuse. Then they go and forget that Australia is a nation of criminals. I do feel for my mates across the ditch. I'd be willing to gift them the games on Steam in exchange for identical currency that I paid, the problem is setting up a pay-system for such a thing.

I do the same already with my girlfriend's family, they buy the game in the United States and just gift it to me... and I pay them back some how either via international transfer or whatever.

 

[Gennadios]

Seems like it's $60 USD for both the amazon and the Steam version.

What is the point of pre-ordering the game so long in advance? What is the benefit?

Rabid fanboyism?

I hadn't pre-ordered in a while, but this is pretty much a shut up and take my money situation. Empire sucked but CA really got Shogun II right, and Rome was by far my favorite oldie.

Plus it looks like they'll be bleeding us through extra faction DLC again, might as well get the Greek factions through the pre-order since this won't be a game I'll wait to go on sale.

 

[Abomination]

So once again CA shoots themselves in the foot by locking out entire bloody factions, (iconic ones at that). Fucking hell, why would you lock them out for DLC, when modders will just make custom versions of the same factions anyways?

It's the multiplayer focus they're likely going to introduce, similar with Shogun. You can only play 'legit' factions (oh, and the DLC factions are fairly imbalanced compared to regular factions). That being said, I don't play Total War games for the multiplayer, I play it for the single player grand strategy.

 

[Caiphus]

My conspiracy theory is that Kim Dot Com being in the country has made it so we appear more prone to piracy so it's best to not give us any excuse. Then they go and forget that Australia is a nation of criminals. I do feel for my mates across the ditch. I'd be willing to gift them the games on Steam in exchange for identical currency that I paid, the problem is setting up a pay-system for such a thing.

Kim Dotcom is in the country. So if publishers push us too far we'll just go round his house and get it off him. There's actually just a little wall of usb ports on his letterbox, so you can just drive up and order through the little microphone (like a pirate-McDonalds-drive-thru) and then plug your hard drive in.

True facts.

 

[idarkphoenixi]

Not even any TF2 hats for the extra price?!

Okay, I'm kidding. I don't care about hats but I still have a point. They're not offering ANYTHING extra for that bloated price.

I highly doubt £45 was some kind of coding error, but unless Steam wants to lose all their business to Amazon or other alternatives they're going to need to re-adjust that price. Or at least offer some kind of incentive for £15 extra charge.

 

[RicoADF]

It looks like $59 on Steam for me. Seems perfectly reasonable, given the scope of the game.

It's $75 here in Australia, bloody theives. No steam I won't be ripped off *goes to GMG and gets it for a far less discriminatory price of $59*

 

[Talshere]

I think they went too far for me. They could've had some sort of obscure or novelty factions as a DLC and pre-order bonus, e.g. Thrace or Spain. But Athens and Sparta? That's a piss take. Won't be preordering, won't be buying. You shouldn't even be contemplating pre-ordering a game like this anyway. It's a series with very inconsistent quality; you should be looking for some kind of indication that the game doesn't suck before putting any money down, e.g. a first impressions from a reliable source. This is why people keep getting burned by low quality games.

I have to say Im a rabit Total War fanboy. I have every total war game, Ive liked thenm all and my go to game if Im locked offline is Empire.

 

[Alfador_VII]

Holy hell. £45 is the most expensive standard edition of a PC game I've ever seen. Ok, so yes there is a pre-order bonus, but it doesn't show any price other than that £45

Currently in the UK, £30 is standard, and £35 is pushing it for some games.

A quick search of other sites here, shows it on Amazon UK, and GAME for £30, so what the heck are Sega and/or Steam thinking of?

 

[Fimbulvetr3822]

For £45 ($70). Seriously wtf Steam. Thats a joke, especially when Amazon has it up for £30 ($46.50).

What the hell is this, I know steam is usually a bit more for the convenience but thats a joke considering physical copies are guna be steam activated anyway.

Yes as 2 separate businesses offering different services have to use the same pricing model. I happily paid £45 to support a developer I love and to be able to play on launch without either waiting for the postman or leaving my house to buy the physical copy, £15 is easily worth it for that.

 

[Fimbulvetr3822]

Holy hell. £45 is the most expensive standard edition of a PC game I've ever seen. Ok, so yes there is a pre-order bonus, but it doesn't show any price other than that £45

Currently in the UK, £30 is standard, and £35 is pushing it for some games.

A quick search of other sites here, shows it on Amazon UK, and GAME for £30, so what the heck are Sega and/or Steam thinking of?

Amazon may be able to make a small profit on a £30 price point, but Game ect definitely won't. They will be selling it a loss to make sure they don't have a load of boxed copies that nobody wants lying around unsold (my local game still had 3 Collectors editions of Napoleon total war unsold last time i went in there).

 

[DSK-]

£29.98 on The Hut.

http://www.thehut.com/games/platforms/pc/total-war-rome-2/10622825.html

Not going to buy it. Total War series has gone down hill since Empire, and don't talk to me about Shogun 2. I was so hyped

 

[Oroboros]

The benefit to preordering is that you unlock the Greek factions for free.


I can't believe they are putting the greek factions (Sparta, Athens, Epirus) in as Day 1 DLC/Preorder bonuses. It seems increadibly insulting to put some of the most iconic ancient factions from the mediterranean (not to mention ones that were free in the first game) and locking them behind a paywall. Sadly I can see them doign something similar to Parthia and the Selucids as well. I seem to recall the devs promising that they wouldn't cut content out for DLC this time around, It's nice to know how much their word is worth that they are willing to cut out some of the core factions to make a quick buck.

To add insult to injury, some of Macedon's units can't be used unless you buy the DLC.

I yearn for the days of Rome Total War/Medieval II Total War at this point. All this preorder and DLC nonsense giving access to units and factions is really irritating and blatent money grabbing, not to mention it is absolutely devestating to the amazing Total War modding community.

If I remember right from one of their development videos, they already put the game forward and got it greenlit and are only focusing on QA right now, but some programmers had spare time to code in other factions in the space they have right now, which is why they're making them DLC rather than having to code them directly into the game itself and potentially causing a delay in it's release.

I don't think that something as central as the greek factions being delegated to 'spare time' is something that happens by accident. This isn't some more obscure faction like Numidia or something like that being DLC content, we are talking about some of the most prominantly recognizable factions of the mediterranean, and a favorite among many players of the first RTW game. Furthermore, do you think that without the DLC there would be a blank space where Greece was? They already coded the cities, the units etc in obviously-all they have done is basically unlock them as playable, so I don't really buy the argument that they were saving time this way. I'm bit incredulous at the notion that such a faction would not have been planned to be included from the get-go, it just reeks of a shady money grab to me.

 

[AbstractJuggler]

It seems increadibly insulting to put some of the most iconic ancient factions from the mediterranean (not to mention ones that were free in the first game) and locking them behind a paywall.
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To add insult to injury, some of Macedon's units can't be used unless you buy the DLC.

They've actually said the DLC is going to be free for the game; I think the only reason they've advertised it as such is so people know that there is going to be DLC for it.

EDIT: www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB9stwC2wBA&t=95
Okay, maybe a bit weirdly worded, but that certainly sounds like what they're saying.

 

[Calcium]

I'm not really buying all the fuss in this, considering that to play this game on high likely requires a graphics card as expensive as an entire console. Compared to other releases, even just looking at pc titles, you'll be getting one of the most advanced games out there, as a pre-order for £45. And it will only cost that much if you buy from Steam and not Amazon which you say is only £30?

 

[Ironside]

The benefit to preordering is that you unlock the Greek factions for free.


I can't believe they are putting the greek factions (Sparta, Athens, Epirus) in as Day 1 DLC/Preorder bonuses. It seems increadibly insulting to put some of the most iconic ancient factions from the mediterranean (not to mention ones that were free in the first game) and locking them behind a paywall. Sadly I can see them doign something similar to Parthia and the Selucids as well. I seem to recall the devs promising that they wouldn't cut content out for DLC this time around, It's nice to know how much their word is worth that they are willing to cut out some of the core factions to make a quick buck.

Well I am just glad that it is such insignificant factions as Epirus, Athens and Sparta that are so far the only dlc you have to pay for - by this stage in history they aren't anything to get excited about. I love that they have made my favourite faction (Pontus) a free day one dlc, but by the name of Christ if they make the biggest empire of the day - the Seleucid Empire a faction I have to pay extra for I will be pretty damn pissed. You should also note that Parthia is one of the playable factions in the base game, so they wont be dlc.

I yearn for the days of Rome Total War/Medieval II Total War at this point. All this preorder and DLC nonsense giving access to units and factions is really irritating and blatent money grabbing, not to mention it is absolutely devestating to the amazing Total War modding community.

No, the thing that is devastating to the modding community is that the engine is pretty damn complex now and is pretty much impossible to mod without tools. However since CA went to great expense and effort to release tools for Shogun 2 I don't see it as a problem if they do the same for Rome2.

 

[Combustion Kevin]

In situations like this, I like to compare the price to fun ratio of games to beer.

Say for instance, "Indie Game 2286" is on sale at £1.25. Am I going to have more fun with this than the equivalent value of beer? Well that's about half a pint for me and me only, so if I get more than 10 minutes of entertainment out of it, then money well spent.

£45 is different. That's four or five crates of beer. That could fuel a small house party. Now that could very well be a highly entertaining evening. OR that £45 could buy me Rome 2, which given my history with the Total War series could amount to 200+ hours clocked before Christmas.

Guess where my money's going.

that's a great way to measure money to value, thanks. ^^