Monday is kinda grayish with a hint of red, whereas Sunday feels white.Irridium said:
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There might be something wrong with your day perception. Please go see a doctor.
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I do it like this "Wow, your colour blind? didn't know that." That's my entire way of describing colour, and by that, I don't. I can't pretend to know what it's like to be them, and I don't want to treat them like anything other than a regular, disgusting human unless they ask to be treated as something else. Can't see through their eyes, can't compare, can't explain.
PLEASE DON'T HATE ME. I just don't like treating people differently.
I do it like this "Wow, your colour blind? didn't know that." That's my entire way of describing colour, and by that, I don't. I can't pretend to know what it's like to be them, and I don't want to treat them like anything other than a regular, disgusting human unless they ask to be treated as something else. Can't see through their eyes, can't compare, can't explain.
PLEASE DON'T HATE ME. I just don't like treating people differently.
Yeah, maybe I do need new glasses; I thought Thursday was yellow, Friday bluish and Tuesday sort of green. Not seeing gold anywhere.Irridium said:
Guess I´m getting old.
Young people!? Get off my lawn!! *Cough, wheeze*Irridium said:
...Ow, I think I broke my hip.
Ironically, we´re on Root´s thread.
I think it's impossible to accurately describe colour to a blind person, or a colour that a colour blind person can't see.
That said, I think it's possible to give a general idea using other senses for a blind person. For example, a bright colour could be likened to a fast high pitched noise like whistle, or a sharp tasting food like a lemon. A dull colour would be likened to a slow low pitched sound like a digeridoo, or a savoury tasting food like potatoe. That'd be for a blanket bright vs dull explanation, any further difference I don't think could be described so well, the best being compare the difference between two seperate sharp tasting foods etc.
For a clour blind person, maybe you could gradually get closer and closer to the colour that they can't see through shading, from either side of the colour spectrum, until they meet and the colour can't be seen. Then say imagine if they'd be able to keep going until they meet, that'd give a fairly accurate imagination of the true colour, maybe? I don't understand how colour blindeness works, it's always kinda confused me, but would that stand a chance or am I talking out my arse?
That said, I think it's possible to give a general idea using other senses for a blind person. For example, a bright colour could be likened to a fast high pitched noise like whistle, or a sharp tasting food like a lemon. A dull colour would be likened to a slow low pitched sound like a digeridoo, or a savoury tasting food like potatoe. That'd be for a blanket bright vs dull explanation, any further difference I don't think could be described so well, the best being compare the difference between two seperate sharp tasting foods etc.
For a clour blind person, maybe you could gradually get closer and closer to the colour that they can't see through shading, from either side of the colour spectrum, until they meet and the colour can't be seen. Then say imagine if they'd be able to keep going until they meet, that'd give a fairly accurate imagination of the true colour, maybe? I don't understand how colour blindeness works, it's always kinda confused me, but would that stand a chance or am I talking out my arse?
I knew a person who didn't know they were red/green colour blind until a biology lesson in year9. He was basically taught that different shades of gray where green or red and he didn't realise he was partially colour blind until he was shown some of the tests for red/green colour blindness.
I'm not entirely sure how you would describe colour to a person who is fully colour blind and even less sure how you would explain it to someone who is fully blind. I think though that most people who are colour blind will have come to associate different types of gray with different colours, so it would be easier to explain it to them.
I'm not entirely sure how you would describe colour to a person who is fully colour blind and even less sure how you would explain it to someone who is fully blind. I think though that most people who are colour blind will have come to associate different types of gray with different colours, so it would be easier to explain it to them.
Create a prallel between sight and taste/hearing/smell/touch and the person should be able to understand. Obviously they wouldn't possibly understand what red is but having colour simply described as a sense should allow a person who has been blind all their life to have a rough idea of whats going on.
The whole thing would be fuzzy and vague though.
The whole thing would be fuzzy and vague though.
or an even better question: are there things we cannot perceive, and therefore not imagine.
Following this train of thought; are there creatures among us that are invisible, make no sound, and cannot be felt?
Following this train of thought; are there creatures among us that are invisible, make no sound, and cannot be felt?
This question makes me think about a very similar philosophical argument made in one of the Science of the Discworld books (entertaining and educational!) that a conference of philosophers had spent a long time hammering out the answer to the question: "What would it be like being a bat?" How would you 'see/hear/feel' a bat's echolocation, for example, and what would it feel like having wings instead of arms?
To which their answer was, "We can't know what it would be like being a bat, only what it would be like being a human thinking they were a bat."
Which is pretty deep, even if it sounds silly.
To which their answer was, "We can't know what it would be like being a bat, only what it would be like being a human thinking they were a bat."
Which is pretty deep, even if it sounds silly.
One of the things I learned from the Bioshock 2 colour-blind debacle is that colour-blindness isn't necessarily a bug; sometimes it's a feature. Some types of colour-blindness restrict the afflicted from seeing this or that colour, but they can distinguish colours that look exactly the same to us. For instance, IIRC red-yellow colour-blind people can see shades of khaki that look the same to us 'normals'. The theory is it's an evolutionary response for dealing with the colour in jungles and forests.meganmeave said:
I've actually pondered this question recently - such things are hard-wired into our psyche at such an early age.
I find it quite difficult to describe a describing word.
On a related note, how could you tell that your perception of a colour wasn't different to everyone else's? You wouldn't think it was odd, as you'd always have seen it that way, but to another person they might be astounded at the colours that you percieve them as. Just a thought.
I find it quite difficult to describe a describing word.
On a related note, how could you tell that your perception of a colour wasn't different to everyone else's? You wouldn't think it was odd, as you'd always have seen it that way, but to another person they might be astounded at the colours that you percieve them as. Just a thought.
Things smell and taste different from each other even if they're the same shape and size. Well colour is another factor like that. Two objects can have the same shape, size, texture, but be different colours.The_root_of_all_evil said:
My brain has nearly melted once trying to think up a good answer to that question.
It's similar to describing sight to someone who has been blind from birth, although that might be slightly easier.
I'm colour blind and it's a pain in the arse. I've had it since I was about 8-9 as far as I recall and I don't think I could explain it at all besides colours often "confuse" me so I can't tell what they are. I did a test recently where you spot the numbers in the dots and got 1 out of 11 correct when my friend was like "it's 22 dude...37...5...seriously that was easy?"
The picture in the OP, I knew something was 'there' but I could't see it was the deer until I tilted the laptop so the LCD went off colour and it became visible.
The picture in the OP, I knew something was 'there' but I could't see it was the deer until I tilted the laptop so the LCD went off colour and it became visible.
Trying to do that made me feel ill.Pararaptor said:
I hope you're happy.
Anywho, you can't, the same way you can't describe "left" and "right" to someone through a radio.
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Incredible Bullshitting Man said:
The reason I ask is because of this book [http://www.amazon.co.uk/Born-Blue-Day-Aspergers-Extraordinary/dp/0340899743], which I've been reading and wondering if there's any coherence between the different version of synesthesia. Guess not then. (Wednesday is the blue day in question)Irridium said:
I remember back when we had proper irony, not this namby-pamby Canadian songstress stuff you kids go on about these days.Incredible Bullshitting Man said:
As for colours, I can work out definitions for red, blue and yellow. Red is the colour of embarrassment and blushing, Yellow is what sunshine feels like and Blue is what cold feels like. I think I can get Orange from the taste of OJ, but as for white, black and the others, I'm sort of stumped.
Edit: Actually, Green is the smell of outdoors, and Brown is the smell of chocolate, coffee and cooked meat. Possibly, Green is the taste of vegetables as well?