Root's Fairly Interesting Topics: Colo(u)r-blind

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Irridium said:
So the Canadians are what changed irony... interesting...
Isn't that ironic, don't you think?
And for a blind person, I would say black is what you see right now when you open your eyes.
There's probably a better way to phrase it, but thats all I got right now.
See, I thought of this, but then discounted it, as how would a blind person know when they opened their eyes?
If anyone's got an answer to that, I'd be pleased.
 
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FactualSquirrel said:
Anywho, you can't, the same way you can't describe "left" and "right" to someone through a radio.
That's a little easier. Hold your hands so the thumb is pointed out and the fingers straight up. The one that forms an "L" is your left hand.
 
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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Irridium said:
So the Canadians are what changed irony... interesting...
Isn't that ironic, don't you think?
And for a blind person, I would say black is what you see right now when you open your eyes.
There's probably a better way to phrase it, but thats all I got right now.
See, I thought of this, but then discounted it, as how would a blind person know when they opened their eyes?
If anyone's got an answer to that, I'd be pleased.
True enough...

I guess then you could say its what you experience now. Or something like that...
Maybe not...

Great. Now this is going to drive me nuts.
 
Feb 18, 2009
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The_root_of_all_evil said:
As for colours, I can work out definitions for red, blue and yellow. Red is the colour of embarrassment and blushing, Yellow is what sunshine feels like and Blue is what cold feels like. I think I can get Orange from the taste of OJ, but as for white, black and the others, I'm sort of stumped.
Hmmm, perhaps, white is when you reach out your hand and try to touch the air. Black is when you do that in a completely unfamiliar place, where you don´t know whether or not your hand will hit something (or something will hit your hand).

Or, black is the smell of coffee and white smells like...snow?
 
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Incredible Bullshitting Man said:
black is the smell of coffee and white smells like...snow?
Coffee can be many colours though, but I always think it smells brown.
And with white smelling like snow, how do you differentiate between feeling cold being blue?

Hmmm, perhaps, white is when you reach out your hand and try to touch the air. Black is when you do that in a completely unfamiliar place, where you don´t know whether or not your hand will hit something (or something will hit your hand).
I like the latter one, but I wouldn't associate white with the former. White could be the taste of cream/milk though?
 
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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Coffee can be many colours though, but I always think it smells brown.
And with white smelling like snow, how do you differentiate between feeling cold being blue?
Ah, that´s true. Cream/milk works better, but then again, I always associated white with something that doesn´t exist or is hard to tell, like the taste of drinking water or the smell of air, when you can´t really say what it smells like.
 

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You could use emotions. Blue is calming, soothing (or fucking depressing :p) Red is passionate, yellow is happy.
 
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Radelaide said:
You could use emotions. Blue is calming, soothing (or fucking depressing :p) Red is passionate, yellow is happy.
I can sort of see pastel blue as calming, and red being passionate, but yellow being happy? I know us sighted people have many things we associate with happiness being yellow, but surely happiness to a colourblind person would be passionate, and thus red or orange?

Violet/Purple is a real tough one. The obvious answer would be the taste of grapes, but that's sour enough to come close to the orange one.

Back to Blue: If light blue is calm and deep blue is depressing, isn't the clear sky and the sea depressing?

And going with IBM's answer, deep would be black...?
 

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I don't think it's possible. They might not be able to imagine colors.
 
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oppp7 said:
I don't think it's possible. They might not be able to imagine colors.
I'm not sure on this. What colour would you say Wednesday is? You can still imagine it a colour without being able to see a colour.

(Wednesday is green to me)
 

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When I try to describe colour it would probably go like this:

"Well you know how you can, um, well certain things can, like, uhh, how do I describe this, well it's like when something, uhh, fuck."

If I had to describe it to a bat, I'd say it's something like echolocation, but constantly changing to reflect the world around you. Unfortunately, most bats don't speak English, so I'm shit outta luck.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
oppp7 said:
I don't think it's possible. They might not be able to imagine colors.
I'm not sure on this. What colour would you say Wednesday is? You can still imagine it a colour without being able to see a colour.

(Wednesday is green to me)
Yellow.

But I'm not sure they'd have anything to go on. We can answer because we've seen them and had memories of them to relate colors to.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Radelaide said:
You could use emotions. Blue is calming, soothing (or fucking depressing :p) Red is passionate, yellow is happy.
I can sort of see pastel blue as calming, and red being passionate, but yellow being happy? I know us sighted people have many things we associate with happiness being yellow, but surely happiness to a colourblind person would be passionate, and thus red or orange?

Violet/Purple is a real tough one. The obvious answer would be the taste of grapes, but that's sour enough to come close to the orange one.

Back to Blue: If light blue is calm and deep blue is depressing, isn't the clear sky and the sea depressing?

And going with IBM's answer, deep would be black...?
Sure yellow is happy. Sunshine, sun dresses. Oh wait, you're English...

Violet/purple to me is sore, or hurt. since most of my bruises are that colour :p
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
So, my question for this week is:
How do you explain colo(u)r to someone who has been blind since birth?
One thing you should realize is that complete colorblindness is, as far as I know, extremely rare if not non-existent. Most colorblind people (including myself) can see color, they just have a different way of perceiving colors. For example, I have red-green dichromacy (deuteranopia to be precise). Normal human eyes use three types of light to form an image (trichromacy), but my eyes use only two. This means that the difference between red and green is often hard to see. It's not that I don't know the difference (it's not like I see red grass or green blood), it's just that in some situations certain colors are hard to distinguish from each other.

There's no need to explain color to the colorblind, because they know what color is. Colorblindness is really a bad word to describe it since we aren't blind to color at all.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Irridium said:
So the Canadians are what changed irony... interesting...
Isn't that ironic, don't you think?
It's not really ironic. We sent out news letters, had a segment on international t.v about it. We had a big meeting and everything! It's your own fault for not paying attention to Canada.[sub]no one loves us T_T[/sub]

OT: Hm, how to describe colour?
I would say it's like the texture of sight.
It all feels different when you look at it, both physically and mentally.
Really that's all I got.
 

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Hurr Durr Derp said:
One thing you should realize is that complete colorblindness is, as far as I know, extremely rare if not non-existent.
Rare, sure. Non-existent, hardly. I know because my grandfather was completely colorblind, and, thanks to the miracle of genetics, I have the common red-green affliction myself.

Damn genetics.

Anyway, how to explain color to the colorblind or the blind-blind. Well, that would be a hell of a thing to do: describing something that is itself a description of something else. I don't know that it can be done in any meaningful way. Red simply is. Naming red objects does no good. The official scientific explanation of red, it's wavelength in nanometers, is entirely useless. Luckily, in my experience, the colorblind (partial and total) and the blind-blind have long since accepted what they've been dealt, and will only ask you this question just to fuck with you for their own amusement.

Unless it's a really bad romance movie. Then they ask, and mean it, but that hardly has any bearing on the real world.