RUMOR: Next xbox release fall 2010, released with project Natal

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ChromeAlchemist

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Rumor: Xbox Natal is Actually Microsoft's Next Console

So you know how Microsoft is saying Natal will be as big as console launch? Well...yeah.
By Sam Kennedy, 06/12/2009

Earlier this week gaming blog Kotaku quoted Microsoft's Shane Kim as saying that the launch of Natal, Microsoft's new controller-free motion control technology, would be as big as the launch of a console. Not surprising. That's because Natal is going to be a new console.

On this week's Listen Up podcast we discussed Natal, and David Ellis and I talked about what we've been hearing regarding the new technology -- and how it's actually the cornerstone of Microsoft's next evolution of the Xbox. Microsoft will not only release Natal as an add-on for the Xbox 360, it will come standard with the next Xbox console.

Yes, there will be a new Xbox console next fall.

However, the new console won't just be an Xbox 360 with a camera, though -- we've heard it will be considered a new platform and carry a new name (Xbox Natal?). It's not clear what sort of upgrades we might see, but some have suggested it will be an slight upgrade of the current Xbox 360 technology. Current Xbox 360 games would be playable on it, but future games would be able to take advantage of the added muscle. Similar to what we see in the PC space, games played on the more advanced Xbox would look or perform better, but publishers will still be able to support owners of both systems. Some developers have complained that they've already maxed out the Xbox 360; perhaps this will give them room to expand.

Make no mistake, we wouldn't be talking about the sort of hardware leap we've seen with Xbox (or most other) platforms in the past, and we're not talking about Microsoft ending one console cycle and starting another. We're talking about an evolution of the Xbox 360; similar hardware but upgraded, repackaged, and rebranded. It's actually not that unlike what Nintendo did with the Wii, where it essentially took the GameCube hardware, stuck in motion controls, and successfully relaunched it. The new Xbox console is said to be aimed directly at a mainstream audience -- and will launch before Nintendo is able to release its Wii HD.

What's interesting is that Nintendo and Microsoft are on a course to deliver very similar products yet are coming at them from opposite directions. Microsoft currently has the HD hardware and will in the future introduce motion controls, while Nintendo has motion controls and will in the future introduce HD hardware. Sony's PS3 will also be providing motion controls next year, though as a peripheral for its EyeToy camera.
As John Davison pointed out on the podcast, the Wii was the first console to do this, but it's likely that all future hardware will be more iterative than substantive. The distinction between new consoles will become far less marked -- similar to what we've seen in the handheld space, such as with the transitions from the Game Boy to the Game Boy Advance, the DS to the DSi, or the PSP to the PSP Go.

So when would we first hear about this new Xbox console? Our sources point to next year's Game Developer's Conference as the target for its unveiling and Fall 2010 as the target for release.

TL:DR version, rumor has it that the 360's successor will be released next year fall, and Project Natal will be spearheading this new console into the market. What do we think of this if this turns out to be true?

Source: 1up - http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3174762
 

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it's been five years already since the 360 launch?

Anyway, I am sure that announcing a system less then one year in advance is pretty poor marketing.
 

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I think its way too early, especially considering then Sony would have to release something more powerful than its' PS3 to compete, and since machines like that are only found at NASA...
 

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Curtmiester said:
I hope not. I don't want to buy a new console.
Nothing could be more true. Besides, I think Project Natal is best suited for the Xbox 360, and I don't think we have the technology to leap into the next generation of console gaming just yet (well, at least not AFFORDABLE technology.)
 

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Mainstream? Eh...that worries me.

ps. Did none of you actually read the article? The article says it would not really be a new generation, but an upgraded 360.
 

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well these are all rumors(aside from the hype surrounding natal) so I guess there doing this to raise interest in it.
 

Curtmiester

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I just thought of something for project natal. What happens if your playing a game and a bee flies by and lads on you? Now your a conundrum.
 

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Curtmiester said:
I hope not. I don't want to buy a new console.
This, this, and a thousand times this.

Last time Microsoft made a new console they threw the other one straight overboard, and I haven't even had my 360 for a year.
 

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pantsoffdanceoff said:
I think its way too early, especially considering then Sony would have to release something more powerful than its' PS3 to compete, and since machines like that are only found at NASA...
Microsoft have money to burn, but I doubt they would create something much more powerful than the PS3. The fact that the PS3 is making a loss on each one sold, and the 360 is just about breaking even makes me believe that they won't consider such a thing as making a supercomputer of a console, at least not until the PS3 shows it can be hugely profitable.
 

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NO NO NO NO NO.

It's been 4 years since the Xbox 360 was released. Can't it wait till 2012 or something?
 

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ChromeAlchemist said:
pantsoffdanceoff said:
I think its way too early, especially considering then Sony would have to release something more powerful than its' PS3 to compete, and since machines like that are only found at NASA...
Microsoft have money to burn, but I doubt they would create something much more powerful than the PS3. The fact that the PS3 is making a loss on each one sold, and the 360 is just about breaking even makes me believe that they won't consider such a thing as making a supercomputer of a console, at least not until the PS3 shows it can be hugely profitable.
Exactly, which is why I think this is too early especially in a time of tightening belts a supersystem would be unreasonably expensive and anything less would be considered an outrageous money making scheme by M$ to make you buy a slightly better system just so one can play the new games..
 

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buy teh haloz said:
NO NO NO NO NO.

It's been 4 years since the Xbox 360 was released. Can't it wait till 2012 or something?
It was four years after the xbox when they released the 360. It was predicted that the new wave of consoles for Nintendo and Microsoft was going to be around 2012, I still believe it to be true for Nintendo. It's up in the air for Microsoft, even if this isn't true, because the tech within the console can easily last beyond 2012.
 

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Oh Fuck no. just when I get all three and get comfortable in the next generation They release another one.
 

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I'm so creeped out by Project Natal it's not even funny. The whole thing's very Skynet to me.

On topic, is it console upgrade time already? Man, time flies.
 

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Kiutu said:
Mainstream? Eh...that worries me.

ps. Did none of you actually read the article? The article says it would not really be a new generation, but an upgraded 360.
Hopefully one that is more durable. I would like a V.2 myself (one that doesn't become blazing hot after loading up a game with more demanding graphics).