Samus Aran: Who cares about over-sexualization?

[Shingeki no Gingerbeard]

I just think the design is fucking gross, that's my only beef with the high heels.

LOOK AT THEM. Ruin a perfectly nice, streamlined and simple character design with fucking neon-green chunky pieces of shit like that. She's actually far LESS sexy to me now with those things on her feet, well done Nintendo.

Neon, when you run a current through it, glows red-orange. These are more fluorescent yellow. If it is a gas, it's likely a mix of Krypton and Xenon.

 

[Shinkicker444]

God those heals are the ugliest clunkiest things ever, I wouldn't even call it sexualisation. If they were that desperate to put heals on her I'm sure I've seen zero-suit Samus pics where she has blue platform shoes (i think they are called?) built into the suit itself. It looks quite elegant, sexy and streamlined and fits the rest of the catsuit thing she has going on. Though tbh, I don't really think she needed them anyways. Also, any time I look at zero-suit Samus I can't not see Ghost Kerrigan. I haven't played Metroid for... god knows how long, but isn't the zero suit just the underlay she wears inside the armored suit? Does she at least get the ability to summon the armored suit?

 

[Shadowstar38]

Every time I hear someone decry Nintendo for 'oversexualizing' Samus by adding heels to her Zero Suit, it's all I can do to keep from laughing in their face.

Did everyone suddenly forget that the reward for 100%ing a Metroid game is usually just an image of Samus in either a bikini or a small tanktop and boyshorts? Because I didn't. You know how people found out that Samus was a girl? 'cause when you finished the game, she took her clothes off for you, the player. Jeez.

And I don't mind that so much. Why? Because it's after the mission. She doesn't run off into combat wearing that bikini. It implies that Samus is the kind of person that doesn't mind flaunting what she has and I find that kind of interesting. Wearing heels to the battlefield though...that doesn't feel like Samus.

I also feel its a bit out of place for Solid Snake to shoot pokemon with a rocket launcher. Why is anyone upset about the tone of a character in a game where it doesn't matter?

 

[Erttheking]

Every time I hear someone decry Nintendo for 'oversexualizing' Samus by adding heels to her Zero Suit, it's all I can do to keep from laughing in their face.

Did everyone suddenly forget that the reward for 100%ing a Metroid game is usually just an image of Samus in either a bikini or a small tanktop and boyshorts? Because I didn't. You know how people found out that Samus was a girl? 'cause when you finished the game, she took her clothes off for you, the player. Jeez.

And I don't mind that so much. Why? Because it's after the mission. She doesn't run off into combat wearing that bikini. It implies that Samus is the kind of person that doesn't mind flaunting what she has and I find that kind of interesting. Wearing heels to the battlefield though...that doesn't feel like Samus.

I also feel its a bit out of place for Solid Snake to shoot pokemon with a rocket launcher. Why is anyone upset about the tone of a character in a game where it doesn't matter?

Solid Snake still has the same design that he did in his game. He was kept true to his design. He gets to keep all of his real world military weapons and his personal tone is kept For some reason Samus wasn't. I'm not talking about the tone of the items the characters can interact with, I'm talking about the tone of the character design. Isn't the appeal of smash bros to see the characters from different universes under one title? If they aren't designed and they don't act like they way they were in their respective games, then it's not really that character is it? It's someone who kinda looks like them.

 

[Dagda Mor]

They're using her stupid Other M design, but they're trying to make it less stupid by saying that the stupid heels are actually stupid rocket heels. They shouldn't have changed it to the Other M design in the first place, because, as we've already established, the Other M design is extremely stupid.

And the 'rocket heels' defense is pretty weak anyway--if she needs a rocket boost from her feet, I'm sure there's a more practical solution than "put them in the stiletto of the least combat-practical footwear design ever". Like, just have the boosters on the bottoms of her regular shoes, or behind her ankles.

 

[giles]

Was perturbed for a second, then I saw that this is not actually Samus but some blonde in a blue overall.
I'm sorry, but Samus wears an orange combat suit. No idea who this other lady is.

Are those high heels? Looks ok to me

 

[PikaPika2]

I don't even think that they ment it that way. If you watched the direct, you'd see that the heels enhance her fighting abilities. And in SSBB, she was wearing heels, just not as noticeabley. I'm not complaining any about Other M if you couldn't tell; I didn't care. I didn't mind Other M much, but I understand your frustration. But I'm talking about SSB4 here.

 

[PikaPika2]

Honestly, though, I think Gaijin Goomba said this better than me.

 

[Shadowstar38]

Solid Snake still has the same design that he did in his game. He was kept true to his design. He gets to keep all of his real world military weapons and his personal tone is kept For some reason Samus wasn't. I'm not talking about the tone of the items the characters can interact with, I'm talking about the tone of the character design. Isn't the appeal of smash bros to see the characters from different universes under one title? If they aren't designed and they don't act like they way they were in their respective games, then it's not really that character is it? It's someone who kinda looks like them.

If you wanted her acting 100% normal, you can always just play regular ass armored Samus. I mean, she realistically would avoid direct conflict altogether if she's stuck in the zero-suit.

Since this is just an alt character based on a single concept, I think it's cool they experimented a little. I since they do have some type of practical function in universe, I don't Samus would even care if they're heels so long as it keeps her alive.

 

[Erttheking]

Solid Snake still has the same design that he did in his game. He was kept true to his design. He gets to keep all of his real world military weapons and his personal tone is kept For some reason Samus wasn't. I'm not talking about the tone of the items the characters can interact with, I'm talking about the tone of the character design. Isn't the appeal of smash bros to see the characters from different universes under one title? If they aren't designed and they don't act like they way they were in their respective games, then it's not really that character is it? It's someone who kinda looks like them.

If you wanted her acting 100% normal, you can always just play regular ass armored Samus. I mean, she realistically would avoid direct conflict altogether if she's stuck in the zero-suit.

Since this is just an alt character based on a single concept, I think it's cool they experimented a little. I since they do have some type of practical function in universe, I don't Samus would even care if they're heels so long as it keeps her alive.

I am not talking about what I want to do. I am talking about the choices the designers made and how I find them lacking. (But you do make a point. Zero Suit Samus is VERY stupid)

And here's the thing. They wouldn't.

 

[giles]

Solid Snake still has the same design that he did in his game. He was kept true to his design. He gets to keep all of his real world military weapons and his personal tone is kept For some reason Samus wasn't. I'm not talking about the tone of the items the characters can interact with, I'm talking about the tone of the character design. Isn't the appeal of smash bros to see the characters from different universes under one title? If they aren't designed and they don't act like they way they were in their respective games, then it's not really that character is it? It's someone who kinda looks like them.

If you wanted her acting 100% normal, you can always just play regular ass armored Samus. I mean, she realistically would avoid direct conflict altogether if she's stuck in the zero-suit.

Since this is just an alt character based on a single concept, I think it's cool they experimented a little. I since they do have some type of practical function in universe, I don't Samus would even care if they're heels so long as it keeps her alive.

Isn't the problem more that there is a zero-suit version in the first place? I mean we don't have zero suit Solid Snake outside of deviant art

 

[CaitSeith]

Spoiler: This video come to mind

Haters gonna hate.

 

[Shadowstar38]

And here's the thing. They wouldn't.

You only think they wouldn't because you're convinced real world physics is at play.

Isn't the problem more that there is a zero-suit version in the first place? I mean we don't have zero suit Solid Snake outside of deviant art

Only a problem for the anti-sexualization crowd. That quote was just pointing out the weirdness of the character consistency argument.

And...I don't think and the game could still get by with an E rating if they put zero-Snake in.

 

[Erttheking]

And here's the thing. They wouldn't.

You only think they wouldn't because you're convinced real world physics is at play.

Isn't the problem more that there is a zero-suit version in the first place? I mean we don't have zero suit Solid Snake outside of deviant art

Only a problem for the anti-sexualization crowd. That quote was just pointing out the weirdness of the character consistency argument.

And...I don't think and the game could still get by with an E rating if they put zero-Snake in.

In order for me to not be convinced real world physics are at play, willing suspension of disbelief needs to come in. These heels do nothing to suspend by disbelief. They shatter the illusion.

 

[theNater]

I don't even think that they ment it that way. If you watched the direct, you'd see that the heels enhance her fighting abilities.

Again, the mechanical decision to enhance her fighting abilities and the aesthetic decision to put her in heels are separate decisions. As several people have pointed out, there are many different kinds of rocket shoes she could have worn that would have been absolutely fine.

 

[Erttheking]

Spoiler: This video come to mind

Haters gonna hate.

I love how people you disagree with can just be dismissed as "Haters" nowadays.

 

[DrOswald]

And here's the thing. They wouldn't.

You only think they wouldn't because you're convinced real world physics is at play.

Isn't the problem more that there is a zero-suit version in the first place? I mean we don't have zero suit Solid Snake outside of deviant art

Only a problem for the anti-sexualization crowd. That quote was just pointing out the weirdness of the character consistency argument.

And...I don't think and the game could still get by with an E rating if they put zero-Snake in.

In order for me to not be convinced real world physics are at play, willing suspension of disbelief needs to come in. These heels do nothing to suspend by disbelief. They shatter the illusion.

Mario shoots fire out of his hands. Peach can pull a never ending supply of turnips from the ether. Everyone can double jump and most can triple jump. One of the characters is a 2d LCD projection.

And you are unable to believe that real world physics are not at play?

 

[CaitSeith]

Spoiler: This video come to mind

Haters gonna hate.

I love how people you disagree with can just be dismissed as "Haters" nowadays.

LOL I just copied the phrase in the video's preview image. But yeah, the misuse of derogative words is rampant nowadays. However the video makes good points.

 

[Erttheking]

And here's the thing. They wouldn't.

You only think they wouldn't because you're convinced real world physics is at play.

Isn't the problem more that there is a zero-suit version in the first place? I mean we don't have zero suit Solid Snake outside of deviant art

Only a problem for the anti-sexualization crowd. That quote was just pointing out the weirdness of the character consistency argument.

And...I don't think and the game could still get by with an E rating if they put zero-Snake in.

In order for me to not be convinced real world physics are at play, willing suspension of disbelief needs to come in. These heels do nothing to suspend by disbelief. They shatter the illusion.

Mario shoots fire out of his hands. Peach can pull a never ending supply of turnips from the ether. Everyone can double jump and most can triple jump. One of the characters is a 2d LCD projection.

And you are unable to believe that real world physics are not at play?

All of those are part of their worlds. And here's the thing that sets them apart from the heels. The execution is convincing.

 

[DrOswald]

And here's the thing. They wouldn't.

You only think they wouldn't because you're convinced real world physics is at play.

Isn't the problem more that there is a zero-suit version in the first place? I mean we don't have zero suit Solid Snake outside of deviant art

Only a problem for the anti-sexualization crowd. That quote was just pointing out the weirdness of the character consistency argument.

And...I don't think and the game could still get by with an E rating if they put zero-Snake in.

In order for me to not be convinced real world physics are at play, willing suspension of disbelief needs to come in. These heels do nothing to suspend by disbelief. They shatter the illusion.

Mario shoots fire out of his hands. Peach can pull a never ending supply of turnips from the ether. Everyone can double jump and most can triple jump. One of the characters is a 2d LCD projection.

And you are unable to believe that real world physics are not at play?

All of those are part of their worlds.

Double jumping is not part of most of their worlds, and Peach can't pull infinite turnip from nowhere in her games, and Mario can normally only shoot fire if he is fire Mario. It obviously can't be consistency between worlds that is making the difference or all those things would be game breakers for you.

And here's the thing that sets them apart from the heels. The execution is convincing.

If you say so. To me the execution is no more convincing or not convincing. How is Mario shooting fire from his hand or infinite turnips or double jumping any more convincing than gaudy rocket heels?

I mean, sure, if that is what you think it is what you think. And that's fine. I just can't detect any rhyme or reason behind that opinion. That's all I am saying.