Satanist make Fred Phelps dead mother a lesbian.

[RJ 17]

I think they should now send a letter to Phelps once a month that simply reads "Your mother munches carpet in hell!" with a big smiley face that has devil horns on it taking up the rest of the page. :3

 

[Dunhart]

Ugh... The dead are beyond discomfort and the Phelps family is certainly beyond any feelings of compassion (at least from me), but WBC is pretty much a real-life troll; the less media attention of any kind they get, the better. This doesn't really help them fade into oblivion, where they belong.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

I'm not sure how making out over a grave will make the deceased gay, but I guess as long as it ruffles Fred Phelps' feathers go for it.

 

[KOMega]

Right....

Because disrespecting gravesites is totally okay if we don't like the people the dead are related too. Has the world finally gone mad? This is sick.

If you find this funny I just have to ask where your humanity went.

Spoiler: I wiped it on someone's shirt.

Satanists aren't as bad as you think. To quote from the website of the Satanic Temple (the group that did this)
"1. Strive to act with compassion and reciprocity toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
2. The struggle for justice is an ongoing pursuit.
3. People are fallible, and although we should all try to do our best, poor judgment is inevitable. If we make a mistake, we should do our best to rectify it, and resolve any harm that may have been caused by our misdeeds.
4. One?s body is inviolable, subject to one?s own will alone.
5. Beliefs should conform to our best scientific understanding of the world. We should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit our beliefs.
6. The freedoms of others should be respected, even the freedom to offend. To willfully encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forego your own.
7. There are, and will continue to be, things unknown and misunderstood. We must recognize this, never taking pride in ignorance, never assuming the unknown to be forever unknowable.
8. While proselytizing might have noble intent, it is not acceptable to coerce or push your beliefs on others. It is always best to lead by example.
9. Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion and wisdom should always prevail over the written or spoken word."
So yeah, they seem like alright fellows.

Assuming they don't do rituals and stuff regularly (seriously, it sounds like they are doing this particular thing for teh lulz) they sound like normal dudes.
They are all right.

 

[Headsprouter]

I'd say an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, but when it comes to Westboro's church of lunatics I really don't mind. The only thing that bothers me is that now people might start (or continue?) associating homosexuality with satanism.

Oh well, even if it does happen, more silly people for escapist articles.

 

[Something Amyss]

I would ask that they respect the dead, but well...

I think that may be the point, though. WBC makes its name off disrespecting the dead, often at their own grave sites.

I just had a thought.

This kind of reminds me of the Mormon practice of baptizing or converting the dead so that they won't burn in hell for eternity.

Only reversed, of course. <_<

Bill Maher did it first:

So the Klu Klux Klan has disowned the Phelps....

Now the satanist have turned against them...

...I'm really starting to feel uncomfortable with the people I share this side on...

I feel the same way about disliking Creed.

On the flip side, I look at it like this: holy crap! Even the Klan thinks they've gone too far!

I do understand the sentiment, but WBC has brought this on themselves.

Would you draw the line at harassing a community recently devastated by a tornado? Or a dead soldier who left a wife and three kids alone?

I suppose one could argue that we're supposed to be better than the shitheads at WBC, but honestly? I don't care much. These Satanists, though comically hyperbolic, still didn't go so far as the WBC does.

While I don't agree to stooping to their level, that second point has some merit.
If at least one person in there goes "Wow, we've kind of been dicks, haven't we?" then yeah, I think I'll consider this a victory in some way.

Unfortunately, the religious folk in this country tend to have a huge persecution complex. Instead of thinking "huh. We were kind of dicks," they will more than likely insist that this was unconscionable...And then go harass the widow of a soldier because God hates fags and America loves them [footnote]which merely translates into a slim majority of people not wanting to kill, harm, and/or deny them rights simply because they disagree[/footnote].

Satanic lesbians are the third best kind of lesbians!

Pagan Lesbians>Satanic Lesbians!

 

[Something Amyss]

Hrm... You know what? That quote could actually very well be treated as a death threat.

They can get away with assault by claiming religious freedom, so I doubt this'll go anywhere.

Unless it's a "stand your ground" state.

 

[Groxnax]

So the Klu Klux Klan has disowned the Phelps....

Now the satanist have turned against them...

...I'm really starting to feel uncomfortable with the people I share this side on...

Wait a second...

The KKK disowned the Phelps family?

Now that is scary.

 

[BoredAussieGamer]

So the Klu Klux Klan has disowned the Phelps....

Now the satanist have turned against them...

...I'm really starting to feel uncomfortable with the people I share this side on...

Wait a second...

The KKK disowned the Phelps family?

Now that is scary.

Funny story, the KKK protested the WBC. Yeah, really. [http://gawker.com/5806819/kkk-counter+protests-god-hates-fags-church]

You know something's up when you are considered hate mongers by the klu klux klan.

 

[loc978]

Now, I'm not usually for combating religious bullshit with opposing religious bullshit... but if the Phelps' believe this one, I'm all for it. If not, meh. There's probably no afterlife anyway.

 

[Arnoxthe1]

I was raised Mormon, so I understand the doctrine well enough. the Outer Darkness is essentially Hell, and is mentioned as such, but isn't really so much torture as just exclusion. And spirit prison is, again, basically equivalent to purgatory, but instead suffering for your sins, you just get another chance to accept the doctrines, including by proxy baptism, as long as you accept it. All in all alot more fair than the "all or nothing" Christian approach. In some ways it reminds me of Buddhism, just with less attempts.

My post wasn't so much for you as it was for everyone else.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

So the Klu Klux Klan has disowned the Phelps....

Now the satanist have turned against them...

...I'm really starting to feel uncomfortable with the people I share this side on...

Satanists aren't as bad as you think. To quote from the website of the Satanic Temple (the group that did this)
"1. Strive to act with compassion and reciprocity toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
2. The struggle for justice is an ongoing pursuit.
3. People are fallible, and although we should all try to do our best, poor judgment is inevitable. If we make a mistake, we should do our best to rectify it, and resolve any harm that may have been caused by our misdeeds.
4. One?s body is inviolable, subject to one?s own will alone.
5. Beliefs should conform to our best scientific understanding of the world. We should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit our beliefs.
6. The freedoms of others should be respected, even the freedom to offend. To willfully encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forego your own.
7. There are, and will continue to be, things unknown and misunderstood. We must recognize this, never taking pride in ignorance, never assuming the unknown to be forever unknowable.
8. While proselytizing might have noble intent, it is not acceptable to coerce or push your beliefs on others. It is always best to lead by example.
9. Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion and wisdom should always prevail over the written or spoken word."
So yeah, they seem like alright fellows.

I'm assuming based on the name though, they worship Satan, right?

I'm far from being a christian but... yeah

 

[lacktheknack]

The only thing more painful than watching idiots be idiots is watching those idiots get poked in a pretty idiotic way.

Too much idiocy...

 

[Lonewolfm16]

So the Klu Klux Klan has disowned the Phelps....

Now the satanist have turned against them...

...I'm really starting to feel uncomfortable with the people I share this side on...

Satanists aren't as bad as you think. To quote from the website of the Satanic Temple (the group that did this)
"1. Strive to act with compassion and reciprocity toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
2. The struggle for justice is an ongoing pursuit.
3. People are fallible, and although we should all try to do our best, poor judgment is inevitable. If we make a mistake, we should do our best to rectify it, and resolve any harm that may have been caused by our misdeeds.
4. One?s body is inviolable, subject to one?s own will alone.
5. Beliefs should conform to our best scientific understanding of the world. We should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit our beliefs.
6. The freedoms of others should be respected, even the freedom to offend. To willfully encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forego your own.
7. There are, and will continue to be, things unknown and misunderstood. We must recognize this, never taking pride in ignorance, never assuming the unknown to be forever unknowable.
8. While proselytizing might have noble intent, it is not acceptable to coerce or push your beliefs on others. It is always best to lead by example.
9. Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion and wisdom should always prevail over the written or spoken word."
So yeah, they seem like alright fellows.

I'm assuming based on the name though, they worship Satan, right?

I'm far from being a christian but... yeah

Well two things: 1. The Satanic Temple is non-theistic. As in they don't literally believe in Satan, rather they use him as a metaphor for their values 2. Theistic Satanists tend to start from the idea that Satan is good. Whether this means Yahweh is evil, or that Satan is just misunderstood varies. You might view Satan as evil, but it hardly seems fair to judge someone based the fact they worship a different God.

 

[Blaster395]

So the Klu Klux Klan has disowned the Phelps....

Now the satanist have turned against them...

...I'm really starting to feel uncomfortable with the people I share this side on...

Satanists aren't as bad as you think. To quote from the website of the Satanic Temple (the group that did this)
"1. Strive to act with compassion and reciprocity toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
2. The struggle for justice is an ongoing pursuit.
3. People are fallible, and although we should all try to do our best, poor judgment is inevitable. If we make a mistake, we should do our best to rectify it, and resolve any harm that may have been caused by our misdeeds.
4. One?s body is inviolable, subject to one?s own will alone.
5. Beliefs should conform to our best scientific understanding of the world. We should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit our beliefs.
6. The freedoms of others should be respected, even the freedom to offend. To willfully encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forego your own.
7. There are, and will continue to be, things unknown and misunderstood. We must recognize this, never taking pride in ignorance, never assuming the unknown to be forever unknowable.
8. While proselytizing might have noble intent, it is not acceptable to coerce or push your beliefs on others. It is always best to lead by example.
9. Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion and wisdom should always prevail over the written or spoken word."
So yeah, they seem like alright fellows.

I'm assuming based on the name though, they worship Satan, right?

I'm far from being a christian but... yeah

LaVayan satanists do not worship Satan. Lavay just called it that to piss off Christians.

 

[frizzlebyte]

On one hand I want to laugh my ass off.

On the other, I find this deeply disturbing. It's a step to far in my opinion.

I'm trying to find a way to describe what I'm thinking, but failing. It's just disturbing to me.

Having grown up in a Christian household, and being a Christian, I find this disturbing, too. Not because I think it actually *did* anything (I don't actually believe rituals of any sort, including witchcraft, actually have supernatural powers of any kind, unlike some of my religion's kin), just that I find the idea of Satanism disturbing, in general, and the concept of disrespecting a gravesite to be disgusting.

Although I will say that that dude's hat was hilarious.

 

[frizzlebyte]

All the people decrying "disrespect for the dead" and the "sanctity of graveyards" amuse me. Like dead people give a shit what anyone does.

Or maybe people are upset because the Satanists aren't thinking of the feelings of the corpses' family members. But hey, same can be said for Phelps. Fire with fire, and all that.

Or maybe people are still hung up on the innate fear of death and corpses and disease that was instilled in us when we were prehistoric primates. Is that why people should stay out of graveyards?

Either way... Still amused.

You know, that is actually a legitimate question, and one that I have struggled with for a long time, to understand what I really think. As for my own corpse, I really couldn't care less what happens to it, but I tend to believe that one of the things that makes us human is our ability to create rituals around high-concept ideas, like death and sex (I am aware that other species do this, as well), and that those rituals and beliefs are one way that we commune together as a species.

While I believe that rational thinking is the key to a better world, some universal human rituals are, in my mind, worth carrying on, if only to remind us that we have the unique ability to reflect on our place in the universe, and the events that happen to us all while we are in it. This includes the mystery and awe that surrounds death, and the rituals of respect that have grown up around it. Sure, they vary from culture to culture, but most cultures have them, and that is something that I think should be respected.

Note that I once believed as you did, so I understand where you are coming from, and I do, in fact, think that the belief that no one should "speak ill of the dead" is carried way too far by some people.