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Buizel91

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_Janny_ said:
I was lucky in high school since they forced uniforms on everyone a year after I graduated. Phew... The outfit they pegged as a uniform wasn't that bad though. I heard that it was just a jeans jacket and matching pants. Cheesy, but not that bad.
I swear...watch your Avatar, and listen to Lady GaGa bad romance, funny as hell XD

And when i was in school, we could take our jumpers of in the ehat, and we had non uniform days, so it wasn't that bad for me =)
 

Dexiro

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I understand being told what NOT to wear as long as it's with good reasoning, but i hate the whole "wear this specifically" thing. I have yet to encounter a comfortable school uniform.

If someone was caught without a tie the teachers would explode into rage and send the person home, denting their education for a pointless and uncomfortable piece of clothing.
The ties weren't even visible in the uniform, but teachers would still tell us to pull it from under our jumpers to prove it's there. I'd love to hear the reasoning behind that :/

Another big fuss for the teachers was coloured hair. I understand not allowing it if someone dies their hair bright green because it'd look terrible. But they'd send people home just for having a tiny streak of red in their hair, or if someone died their hair blonde but it looked slightly unnatural.

I've even heard of some schools enforcing that all boys should have short hair and girls should have long hair, which i think is pretty ridiculous and very old-fashioned.

My point is, schools take it way way way too far.
 

Jamieson 90

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El Poncho said:
I don't 100% agree with them but I'll try stick up for them.

1. Paedophiles, kids from other schools come to start a fight(which has happened before)

2. More kids would get bullied about their clothes, bullying is pretty low at my school.

3. Well, you're in school, where you are suppose to learn and do your work. So, the teachers.
1. There's something call a pass. We had that when I went to general school. Everytime you wanted to enter you'd have to present the pass and you'd be allowed in. Otherwise, you'd have to speak to the principal and state your business on the school grounds.

2. They will be bullied anyways, no matter the clothes. Do you honestly believe bullying has anything to do with clothes? If so, why?

3. And how does wearing an uniform helps you with your studies? The only "argument" I've heard for this is that "pupils should focus on school and not clothes". This can be easily refuted. Who in the hell spends more than 5 minutes picking their clothes? Even pupils who want to look good everyday don't spend more than 15 minutes preparing.

You might say "well, certain pupils just focus more on how they look rather than on school". This can, again, be easily refuted by arguing that if the pupil does not care about school and if you take away the supposed "thing" which takes his or hers focus he or she will simply find a new focus. If people don't give a fuck about school then they don't give a fuck about school and no uniform will change that.
As a teacher that works in a school I can tell you that uniforms are very important for the reasons listed above. They help teachers to distinguish between pupils from the school and intruders whether they are kids from other schools or adults who should not be there. Most schools have a sign in policy or a pass as you suggested but those systems are not 100% fool proof, the uniform there is to help in a situation where there is an intruder that has got past the office/main entrance etc.

Appearance is a big factor in bullying, it?s not the only factor but clothing does play a part, uniform doesn't solve all the problems but it helps to reduce it somewhat as it is harder to tell the poorer kids from the rich ones. You can still tell though because of all the gadgets these days i.e. Mp3 IPods mobile phones but it does help and it would be worse if we didn't have uniforms.

Lastly the school uniform gets you into the right mentality, you associate the clothing with work and study whereas you associate your normal clothing with play/relaxing or outside etc. If someone doesn't want to work they won?t but the uniform helps.
 

Banana Phone Man

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I have maroon blazers with tie, white shirt and black trousers and shoes. I do like how they sort of, they kind of make me feel a like I'm smarter than I would be if I was just wearing my casual clothes. I'm glad I have them. I don't think I have enough clothes for 5 days of school a week. I need to go shopping. It also stops kids bullying about what you wear but if people do that then they are just petty.
 

Dexiro

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El Poncho said:
Kids are less likely to be bullied about their clothes.

It shows you are ready to work.
I actually find that uniforms cause rivalry between schools. A group of kids see someone with an opposing schools uniform and use it as an excuse to pick fights with someone.

Can't really imagine why anyone would get bullied for their clothes anyway. It's not like someone would arrive at school wearing rags, at the ridiculous price they sell uniforms at someone could buy tons of regular clothes :p

I don't agree that it shows you're ready for work either, although i can imagine that being a reason that teachers would tell people. I think it's more of an ego thing for teachers; they are pretty well known for abusing their power, like they're in a position of authority so they jump at any opportunity to feel like they have more control.
 

pauloalbatross

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My school used to have grey trousers, blue/white/grey shirt, black and purple striped tie and a tweed blazer as the uniform for years 7-11, but before I arrived they changed to black jackets and white shirts only, still with the annoying tie. The primary school version of the school has a uniform with a black, silver and purple striped jacket, which around 40 years ago was the senior school version. The 6th form uniform is more of a dress code, still with a horrible tie (can be all purple) - I'm glad I'm finally rid of that horrible uniform.
 

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Jamieson 90 said:
They help teachers to distinguish between pupils from the school and intruders whether they are kids from other schools or adults who should not be there. Most schools have a sign in policy or a pass as you suggested but those systems are not 100% fool proof
How is it not fool proof? If you're an adult and are attempting to enter the school with a falsified pass the guard can easily identify him as someone who is not a pupil.

Jamieson 90 said:
, the uniform there is to help in a situation where there is an intruder that has got past the office/main entrance etc.
If it's an adult, you can easily identify him among the crowds of teens due the differences between teens and adults. Hell, the majority of teenagers wear a specific brand of clothes that distinguish them from the adult crowd. Teen's getting past guards isn't unheard off but honestly, what would he do? Beat up a student? Well that's impossible giving that there are so many teachers during recess. Steal? But what? Schools generally don't have anything of value.

Jamieson 90 said:
Appearance is a big factor in bullying, it's not the only factor but clothing does play a part
How?

Jamieson 90 said:
it helps to reduce it somewhat as it is harder to tell the poorer kids from the rich ones.
If the kid's poor then there are numerous factors that can hint to him being poor. You listed some of them bellow.


Jamieson 90 said:
You can still tell though because of all the gadgets these days i.e. Mp3 IPods mobile phones but it does help and it would be worse if we didn't have uniforms.

And what do you base that upon? How would it be "worse" if uniforms were taken out?


Jamieson 90 said:
Lastly the school uniform gets you into the right mentality, you associate the clothing with work and study whereas you associate your normal clothing with play/relaxing or outside etc. If someone doesn't want to work they won't but the uniform helps.
I already answered that in a comment above.
 

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Whatever you think of your uniform, you will realise exactly how easy you had it when you see what I used to have to wear at my first school. This is a quick photo of the old blazer in my wardrobe.


Yes, that is a banana yellow/navy blue barcode pattern.
 

RanD00M

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Well I personally dislike school uniforms.And damn am I happy that I never had to wear one.
They just seem kinda stupid to me.I don't know why,they just do.
 

Shynobee

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From 1st grade through 12th grade I had to wear a uniform, and honestly, It never bothered me...

But my question is, why the hell are you at school in summer?
 

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rokkolpo said:
Holland here.

and i think it might be against the law to use school uniforms here.
Freedom of Expression for the win!

we Dutch are really for our freedom.
that's right we don't even *bleep* out nasty words on tv. * le gasp*

EDIT: i really don't see any significant benefits from school uniforms.
Lucky peeps, although I would much rather be Spanish right now :D! INIESTA
 

pauloalbatross

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Tharwen said:
Whatever you think of your uniform, you will realise exactly how easy you had it when you see what I used to have to wear at my first school. This is a quick photo of the old blazer in my wardrobe.


Yes, that is a banana yellow/navy blue barcode pattern.
I pity you - how did you not burn it when you finished school (or while you were still there)?
 

PseudoDuck

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We had uniforms at school (oh how long ago that was).
It never bothered me at all. All the "reasons" that people who don't like uniforms are so keen to put quote marks around seem perfectly legitimate.
 

Jamieson 90

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AndyFromMonday said:
Jamieson 90 said:
They help teachers to distinguish between pupils from the school and intruders whether they are kids from other schools or adults who should not be there. Most schools have a sign in policy or a pass as you suggested but those systems are not 100% fool proof
How is it not fool proof? If you're an adult and are attempting to enter the school with a falsified pass the guard can easily identify him as someone who is not a pupil.

Jamieson 90 said:
, the uniform there is to help in a situation where there is an intruder that has got past the office/main entrance etc.
If it's an adult, you can easily identify him among the crowds of teens due the differences between teens and adults. Hell, the majority of teenagers wear a specific brand of clothes that distinguish them from the adult crowd. Teen's getting past guards isn't unheard off but honestly, what would he do? Beat up a student? Well that's impossible giving that there are so many teachers during recess. Steal? But what? Schools generally don't have anything of value.

Jamieson 90 said:
Appearance is a big factor in bullying, it's not the only factor but clothing does play a part
How?

Jamieson 90 said:
it helps to reduce it somewhat as it is harder to tell the poorer kids from the rich ones.
If the kid's poor then there are numerous factors that can hint to him being poor. You listed some of them bellow.


Jamieson 90 said:
You can still tell though because of all the gadgets these days i.e. Mp3 IPods mobile phones but it does help and it would be worse if we didn't have uniforms.

And what do you base that upon? How would it be "worse" if uniforms were taken out?


Jamieson 90 said:
Lastly the school uniform gets you into the right mentality, you associate the clothing with work and study whereas you associate your normal clothing with play/relaxing or outside etc. If someone doesn't want to work they won't but the uniform helps.
I already answered that in a comment above.
Not all schools use a pass system and even if they do security staff are humans, the guard could call in sick a replacement could be sourced who isn't aware of the policy etc. The person at the office could be busy and miss something, these things happen. Teachers have personal property and the school has expensive equipement such as projectors and laptops etc.

How can you say appearance is not a factor in bullying? It?s one of the main factors, bullies target people that don't fit in or are different. If your clothing is not as good as the rest of the kids because your family can't afford better then it?s going to show. I already said it doesn't solve the problem but it helps, the uniform goes someway to making everyone look similar instead of Group a wearing expensive designer cloths and group B wearing second hand clothes from the charity shop.

I already said if a kid doesn't want to work they won?t but for some kids it helps them get into the routine, read things properly.
 

natster43

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I have no problem with school uniforms, but I have never went to a school with school uniforms.
 

asinann

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jaammiie said:
In the Summer heat, I'm really hating my school uniform. Everyday we have to wear and keep on for most of the day, a dark blazer so you can imagine the nasty sweat patches. I hear that in America most schools have no uniform, I rule I would love. It would mean actually being able to keep cool in the heat and not being boiled alive. I hear a lot of arguments for and against having no uniform and was wondering how people are coping with the heat (in London anyway) and what they think about school uniform in general.
A lot of US schools are turning towards dress codes that might as well be uniforms. Only allowed to wear 3-5 colors, no print shirts, slacks only, must wear a tie.