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Nocturnal Gentleman

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I personally tire of all sci fi movies where a highly advanced race gets its ass whooped by another race (human or alien) with far inferior weaponry and other technology.

Seriously if you're a race that can build machines or use genetics far beyond the imagination of the primitive race then you will always win against them. Whatever weaknesses the primitive race has you'll damn well exploit. You will have already planned with how to deal with foreign bacteria, deadly common used poisons, dangerous wildlife, ect.

Hell you won't even need soldiers really since everything should pretty much be a remote controlled and utterly devastating weapon at that point.

Also, like others have mentioned, I can't stand aliens so human they're not really alien at all. We need more creatures like the Hanar.
 

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Avaholic03 said:
No surprise that my favorite sci-fi series was Firefly/Serenity. No aliens, no magical solutions, and a decidedly realistic feel.
I think the thing I liked the most about Firefly other than the characterizations was that it didn't bog itself explaining horrible soft science as if the writers were getting off to it.
 

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Nocturnal Gentleman said:
I personally tire of all sci fi movies where a highly advanced race gets its ass whooped by another race (human or alien) with far inferior weaponry and other technology.

Seriously if you're a race that can build machines or use genetics far beyond the imagination of the primitive race then you will always win against them. Whatever weaknesses the primitive race has you'll damn well exploit. You will have already planned with how to deal with foreign bacteria, deadly common used poisons, dangerous wildlife, ect.

Hell you won't even need soldiers really since everything should pretty much be a remote controlled and utterly devastating weapon at that point.

Also, like others have mentioned, I can't stand aliens so human they're not really alien at all. We need more creatures like the Hanar.
US military has far more advanced equipment then Iraqi insurgents, but they're not winning either.
 

Nocturnal Gentleman

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BuyableDoor said:
Nocturnal Gentleman said:
I personally tire of all sci fi movies where a highly advanced race gets its ass whooped by another race (human or alien) with far inferior weaponry and other technology.

Seriously if you're a race that can build machines or use genetics far beyond the imagination of the primitive race then you will always win against them. Whatever weaknesses the primitive race has you'll damn well exploit. You will have already planned with how to deal with foreign bacteria, deadly common used poisons, dangerous wildlife, ect.

Hell you won't even need soldiers really since everything should pretty much be a remote controlled and utterly devastating weapon at that point.

Also, like others have mentioned, I can't stand aliens so human they're not really alien at all. We need more creatures like the Hanar.
US military has far more advanced equipment then Iraqi insurgents, but they're not winning either.
This is true, but we're talking sci fi movies where one race wants to completely wipe out another. You would pretty much kill everything in that area (or planet) without mercy if that was your main goal to begin with.
 

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When they ignore science of course, elsewise when its made too mainstream i.e theres a whole romantic subplot or something that just doesnt fit the story just to get people to watch it >:{
 

HandsomeJack

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There are a couple big turn offs for me in sci-fi.

1) Incorporation of psuedo-spiritual bullshit. This is science fiction, not fantasy. And a big no-no here is trying to scientifically explain/encorporate real-world religious (Seen waaaaay to many "Egyptian gods are really aliens" movies out there) It has yet to be done in a way I felt satisfied with, though Stargate held my intereste because the religious aspect was all a scam on the aliens behalf. This aspect was the sole point of contention I had with the otherwise very fun "5th Element". Incorporating magical or similar elements tend not to work well either. Star Wars lost it's spot as the sole exception because it fell into exactly what makes it fail. In "A New Hope" through "Return of the Jedi" it worked because it, like religion in the realworld (if you are a believer) was beyond explanation and could have profound, if subtle, impacts with only the occational overtly obvious "miraculous" moments. Hell, even one of Vader's admirals doesnt believe it exists till Vador shows him better. I actually considered Star Wars to be a blend of Sci-fi and Fantasy...until Episode 1...and the miticlorines (sp?)...

2) Why the hell is it humans and aliens always seem to be able to interbreed together? At least Star Trek had the whole thing about all the races being seeded from a common ancestral races...even that is really flimsy if you know biology well, but I could accept that because, as GOOD Sci-Fi should be, it was fact taken just a little further.

3) When either humans or a specific alien race is universally, scenery-chewingly evil...really, it is like a projection of the writters own racist tendencies filtered through a veiled medium. I found it laughable how another poster on the forum referred to District 9s aliens as "heroes," as I actually found that movie to be an excellent blend. There were a lot of asshole humans, a fair share of decent ones, and the same could be said for the Prawns. I watched this with my fiancee and she and her sis chewed the humans for opening fire on the aliens and I couldnt help but ask if they missed the fact that one of the humans was disembowled by the alien they shot not 4 seconds before they opened fire? It was a fair depiction of a tense situation with frustration and fear on both sides. The only true hero of the story was Christopher in my Lofty-Standards-Of-Good eyes and his son gets high marks as well.

4) Black holes...we know enough about them that sci-fi's fav plot tools and elements with then are all realized to be incorrect. there are still lots of creative ways to use them in a story, but sci-fi seems hung up on using them for time travel and wormholes.

5) Why are aliens almost always more advanced than humans? One of the most charming elements of my favorite sci-fi of all time, the "Alien" trilogy, was that it was debateable. They didnt know squat about technology, but they could definetly outcompete the race who's ship they found in the first movie. And if it werent for Ripley I would dare say they got the human race beat there too.

6) Unlikeable female characters...though this miff is actually a general gripe as of late. And before the cries of sexism pop up I would first pose this: Is it possible for a female character to be feminine without it being her sole niche, capable without just cloning the capable male hero and giving it a gender swap, not a total ***** to every male she comes across (asshole doesnt translate to sexy or cool), and not unneccesarily sexualized? I argue yes. Yes and why has noone done this since my beloved "Alien" trillogy. Ripley goes from basically garbage collector to survivor to hero all while still being a woman...not just in the collection of parts, but in her personality and behavior. She goes back for the freaking cat of all things! Moreover she displayed excellent motherly instincts with Newt, showing down with the big baddie at the end all while still showing a realistic level of terror despite the absolute bad-assness of it all. "Alien" and "Aliens" are still my go to movies to prove that a woman can be an awesome hero without just being a dick-less man with tits.
 

Deleric

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Dystopian futures. Waaaaay overused and waaaaay misinterpreted most of the time.
 

Internet Kraken

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Xenophilia. The idea of having a sexual relationship with another species disturbs me. I'm actually surprised that a lot of people approached the relationships with aliens in Mass Effect 2 so casually. I thought more people shared my disgust towards sex with other species. It only gets worse whenever these relationships produce some hybrid monstrosity. I'm pretty lax when it comes to scientific inaccuracies, but that really bothers me because it makes no sense whatsoever.

Also, like many other posters, I'm sick of the race with the relatively primitive technology (humans usually), beating the cartoonishly evil species with the incredibly advanced technology (usually aliens). Like how in Independence Day the humans basically get their ass kicked the entire movie, but then manage to take down the entire mothership with only a virus, because apparently our computer viruses also work on alien computers.

But one thing that I'm really sick of are malevolent AIs. I don't get why so many AIs just decide to start killing people. It only gets worse when the AI is just a cold, emotionless machine. I don't find it interesting when the antagonists motivation is nothing beyond "logic" (though I don't see how attempting to genocide an entire species is logical). At least give them a motivation to kill people beyond being a robot.
 

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I thought I might start reading Science fiction novels so I rented a book from the library get to page 30 and think to myself " hmm two guys kissing? Must be the author trying to be edgy." another ten pages it's happening again. turns out I picked up a homoerotic scfi book and god dam it there was even a hot girl on the cover. So over saturation of guy love in a book whose blurb doesn?t even give a hint of it at all turns me off the genre.
 

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I like it better when it's believable that you could extrapolate events from today and end up with that.

Stuff that's totally impossible I don't appreciate so much.
 

Captain Picard

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What grinds my gears most is scientific inaccuracy. For instance, the events and character motivations in the new Star Trek movie revolve around a catastrophic supernova that happens sometime in the future. As Spock described it, the supernova was so massive that it "threatened the entire galaxy". No, no, no! That broke my immesrsion in the movie like someone dropping a platter full of wine glasses in the aisle of the theater. Additionally, we see an epic scene of Kirk on his motor/hovercycle staring at a shipyard towering above the Idaho plains, with a partially finished starship. Uhhh, excuse me? Do you realize how much power it would take to fly that thing through the atmosphere and reach orbit? I guess when you have infinite energy, you can make your trillion ton starships any shape, size, and anywhere you want.

Next up is the fact that most of the prominently featured alien species are bipedal humaniods, with biology, physiology, and psycology that is improbably similar to that of us humans. I shant elaborate on that point, but we've all seen plenty of examples, I'm sure. Neither of these two peeves of mine are unique to Star Trek either, it's just that the latest Star Trek movie was a convenient example.
 

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tellmeimaninja said:
I hate alien invasions or anything that instantly portrays anything non-Human as completely genocidal for no reason. Not so coincidentally, I like sci-fi where the aliens are portrayed as heroes, such as District 9.
I will agree with this. Its rather ironic that humans are portrayed as heroes when we have been known to keep other species as cattle, usurp other people from their lands, or cut them down if they stand against us. When it comes down to it, in 2000 or so years if we dont destroy ourselves by then, the only remaining animals besides humans will be those used as food, and as pets, as we wont have the resources to support both them and us... assumming we have not found a way off this planet by then, but even so.

Ironic how something treating humans the way humans treat other things is considered evil. Its also ironic is that you dont get to be top dog of the planet by being nice, you get there by being the meanest, most vicious species on that planet, with a complete disregard for any other species if it enroaches upon your territory or hinders you in any way. If we do encounter aliens, they will probably be surprisingly like us in that regard.
 

chozo_hybrid

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When something integral to the plot isn't explained *cough*red matter*cough* like a few times in the new Star Trek.
 

Angryman101

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Things that end in 'it was all a dream'.
I'm looking at you, repomen.
The it was all a dream ending has a lot of subtypes: it was all a magical illusion, it was all a hologram, it was all part of a computer system...ugh. It's terrible.
 

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In movies I hate it when they don't actually create science fiction, they simply take a well worn Hollywood plot and apply special effects. The elements of fictional science must be crucial to the plot for me, anything else is just a thriller in space or action movie with robots or aliens. I want science and fiction in my science fiction.
 

Monkey King

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Finally, a thread I can sink my teeth into!

Some things that bug me about sci-fi:

1) Mono-evironmental planets: As much as you never see other cultures in alien races, you always find their home worlds are one big ball of sameness: Desert Planet, Ice Planet, Water Planet, big frickin city planet. Is Earth the only planet with more than one type of environment?
2) Lack of imagination by the people in most science fiction (or in some cases, lack of memory): I'll use Star Trek as my example here. Through out the franchise, you've seen various Star Fleet members run into strange stuff (androids, time travel, energy beings, etc.); you'd think they'd get to the point where they would just accept it. Instead, they are always like "A _________? Is such a thing possible?"
3) Nanites: why do we think that a bunch of micro-bots will be able to make anything faster than building it normally? They are putting atoms and molecules together, after all!
4) Why does it seem like all aliens (except humans) skipped gunpowder? It always seems that aliens either use hand to hand weapons or laser/blaster/phasers. Where is a race that uses high tech rifles? I mean, guns are such a big part of our cultures, you'd think at least one other species might be NRA members too?
5) Immortal beings who know everyone famous from history. How does a guy living in Gaul as a wandering warrior in the first century A.D. find his way to meet Jesus, Ceasar, Cleopatra, and Attila the Hun? Or, how does some vampire in the 1800's know that Dickens will be world famous writer, but some other guy will not?
And where are the immortal beings from our era in history in the future?