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ProtoChimp

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RAKtheUndead said:
ProtoChimp said:
It was targeted towards a niche audience (AKA huge nerds like me)
What?

I'm about as big a nerd as you can get, short of going to a Star Wars convention, and I see almost nothing to recommend about the film.
Sorry I wasn't so clear. I meant certain nerds like manga, anime and early video gamed fans. Maybe I'm not so good at explaining but it's for people who have certain tastes. Or maybe you just didn't find it funny and too reliant on references. Each to their own I guess.
 

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Earth443 said:
Hmmmmm...... 1 post..... i'm going to call troll on this one.
Yeah, I agree. His other post was I hope you all know I'm going to marry her. the end. lol.. I'll count that as a discussable topic.
Someone report him?
 

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I'd have to agree with the OP, I couldn't get into it either, even with the gaming references and epilepsy inducing effects. Then again I got bored witless 30 minutes into Kick Ass aswell. I guess the Hollywood-comic book rave is over for me.

Edgar Wright, please come home! Your weird British movies are a lot better
 

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nelsonr100 said:
Haters gonna hate...

Clearly the movie wasn't for you, however I will point out that a lot of people disagree with you as it has a score of 81% on rotten tomatoes and 86% from the top critics.

Also I don't really see discussion value here other than people going "yes I hated it too" or "You are wrong, it was good".

For the record, its a pretty darn good movie and imo if you don't like it you just probably dont "get" what its trying to do.
Okay this is an opinion I simply don't understand and don't endorse.

You're implying his opinion is simply wrong just because of the review scores it got? How's about no? Review scores are only good to gauge how much critics liked it, not how good the film is. Whether there is a correlation between critics liking it and it being a good film depends entirely on the individual and thus will be different for everyone. Therefore using review scores as a point to say how good a film is is bullshit.

And perhaps you're misunderstanding how discussions work, too. Not every thread has to be a beacon of long words and stretched out opinions. The guy didn't like it, he wanted to voice that he was disappointed, some people are in agreement, some aren't, most of the people provided reasoning for their opinion, including the OP, so why you think there is no discussion value is beyond me.

Furthermore, the implication that his opinion isn't valid or complete because he 'doesn't get it' is, for lack of a better phrase: Complete fucking bullshit.
Explain it, explain how what he said shows a lack of understanding. Until you do that, just, please, kindly, shut up.
 

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nelsonr100 said:
JesusDiablo said:
Also I don't really see discussion value here other than people going "yes I hated it too" or "You are wrong, it was good".
That is a good point.

OT: I went and saw the opening showing with a couple of friends and we all loved it. I think I got pretty much all the references. Although if not getting all the references was the problem I don't understand why people are suggesting the books. There are even more obscure references in there. Like at one point when he's fighting one of the bosses the boss say's something and he replies totally inappropriately with, "How appropriate. You fight like a cow." Which is a reference to Secrets of Monkey Island that made me laugh really hard. Also, I liked the movie better then the books, although if you watched the movie and didn't think Michael Cera played Scott off like big enough a douche bag then you might enjoy the book more.
 

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Haven't seen the movie yet, probably going to with some bros, also, with Edgar (director of Shawn of the Dead) making it, and movie-bob saying its the new Anny Hall for practically my exact demographic, I need to see it, no matter what you guys say.

Also, the game (and most notably the soundtrack) are fucking great and worth noting.
 

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I've already read the first volume of the comic book and I've seen the film and to be honest, it's only a slight difference so far.
 

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JesusDiablo said:
I went to go see Scott Pilgrim last night with some buddies. They've all seen it 2 or 3 times each, so I figured I may as well see what all the hype was about. Not only did I want to strangle Michael Cera the entire movie, but the movie itself felt lacking, like they had a bunch of potentially good ideas but played them out half-assed. Most of the game references were vague and my friends had to tell me what some of them even related to. I only got one laugh... sorry, chuckle out of the entire movie, and thet was the fight scene with the vegan guy. To me the movie was flawed as In the fact they had too many characters who werent important to the plot, ideas weren't presented to their full potential, and the music was mediocre at best. ( I know it wasnt supposed to be the best, they were a garage band after all)I just had to let that out. Read it, hate me, idc. I just needed to say it.
edit: I fell asleep in the movie a total of three times.
My brother hated it, I enjoyed it. Everyone has an opinion, so grats I guess. Truth be told, if you hear so many people praising it you're going to be dissapointed, I was even though I enjoyed it. It seems they could have replaced so much of the 'meh' in with more 'good'.
 

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Glamorgan said:
Earth443 said:
Hmmmmm...... 1 post..... i'm going to call troll on this one.
Yeah, I agree. His other post was I hope you all know I'm going to marry her. the end. lol.. I'll count that as a discussable topic.
Someone report him?
feel free to my main man, obviously im bringing so much harm to you i need to be eliminated. Im a danger to mankind.
 

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MercurySteam said:
Read the comics. Then you'll understand how Scott Pilgrim can blow peoples' socks off. Or just watch this:


So much was left out of the movie, E.g: Lisa, Knives' dad, "The Glow".
That was so retardedly awesome I think it made me younger somehow.
 

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ProtoChimp said:
MercurySteam said:
Read the comics. Then you'll understand how Scott Pilgrim can blow peoples' socks off. Or just watch this:


So much was left out of the movie, E.g: Lisa, Knives' dad, "The Glow".
That was so retardedly awesome I think it made me younger somehow.
Scott Pilgrim fun fact: Not many people know this, but the voice actor for Katara from Avatar: The Last Airbender played Roxi in Scott Pilgrim vs. The World. Here's an image to remind you:


Not quite what you expected right? Still, she's a great voice actress. She also played Lisa in Scott Pilgrim vs. The Animation.
 

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JesusDiablo said:
Glamorgan said:
Earth443 said:
Hmmmmm...... 1 post..... i'm going to call troll on this one.
Yeah, I agree. His other post was I hope you all know I'm going to marry her. the end. lol.. I'll count that as a discussable topic.
Someone report him?
feel free to my main man, obviously im bringing so much harm to you i need to be eliminated. Im a danger to mankind.
There's a diference between danger, and annoyance. Dude, why can't you just let us enjoy ourselves? You're making it harder for everyone.
 

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nelsonr100 said:
For the record, its a pretty darn good movie and imo if you don't like it you just probably dont "get" what its trying to do.
Oh of course he didn't like it, he didn't get it. However, I with my far superior intellect was able to appreciate the true beauty of this movie.

Ughhh... how I always hate this kind of argument. As far as I'm concerned, that's on the same level as "Well, that's YOUR opinion" when it comes justifying your thoughts on a movie.

Personally, I didn't really like it. The acting was good, the effects were good but it wasn't the kind of movie I enjoy going to see, I wasn't even convinced by the premise really. I remember seeing this with friends and coming out just wishing we'd opted for something else (like Inception again or, hell, even Piranha 3D might have been more of a laugh). I got most of the references but I didn't really find them that funny or anything, was that what they were going for?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's a bad film, it really isn't, but that doesn't make me an idiot (or even "not the right demographic") for not liking it. I can see why people would like it and am suprised it hasn't done better so far to be honest.
 

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Glamorgan said:
JesusDiablo said:
Glamorgan said:
Earth443 said:
Hmmmmm...... 1 post..... i'm going to call troll on this one.
Yeah, I agree. His other post was I hope you all know I'm going to marry her. the end. lol.. I'll count that as a discussable topic.
Someone report him?
feel free to my main man, obviously im bringing so much harm to you i need to be eliminated. Im a danger to mankind.
There's a diference between danger, and annoyance. Dude, why can't you just let us enjoy ourselves? You're making it harder for everyone.
i made you click on both my posts didnt I... DAMN! sorry, i really gotta stop people who dont care from burning all those calories clicking a link. darn once again i apologize im ruining your life.
 

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I closed my ears to everything anyone had to say about the movie, I only saw a single trailer going in and my mind was fresh and I didn't have any expectation. I walked out of the movie thinking, well that was fun, it wasn't the greatest thing I've ever seen, it wasn't the worst thing I have ever seen. I got my money's worth and that's the end, I'll probably watch it once more when it comes out on DVD and that's it.

My complaints about the movie:
The start is slow, and I mean really slow, the build up takes what 20-25 mins? Things didn't really get that interesting until the first evil ex shows up. And what is with the whole interdimensional highway in Scott's head? It's like oh he sees the girl in his head because she is skating through it, and she mentions it and it is never mentioned ever again...why, the guy has this magical doorway in his head you think this might not be something interesting to explore? As a person who hasn't read the comics you sit there and scratch your head going wtf?!
Then we come to the first 3 exes, we get this little flash back cartoon thing that shows how they hooked up with the girl and how they break up...some of which are kind of stupid. I mean its like oh she just pretended to go out with a guy because he was the only non white and then they broke up like a week later....so why is he out to kill her new boyfriend? They never really had any sort of real relationship.
Speaking on that note, why does the League of Evil Exes exist? I understand the concept of oh they're pissed off at the girl and they don't want her to be happy so they block her from getting a boyfriend, but the aim of the league is to have her go back to the last boyfriend? Why? Aren't the other 6 playing on the fact that they're jealous of Scott hooking up with the girl, but they're ok with the 7th hooking up with her?
Back to the whole cartoon backstory thing, why is it dropped for the 4th,5th, 6th, and 7th exes? We really don't know jack about the 4th, 5th, and 6th exes, hell I don't even think the twins had a line of dialogue, they're on screen for like a minute and poof dead. We only get a snippet about the 7th from exposition and even then it isn't much.
Then you go to the character of Scott Pilgrim, I understand in the end he is supposed to be some kind of douche character that we're really not supposed to like. But that's where a lot of stories fail for the general audience, you need some kind of reason to connect or to root for the main character. For example the reason why episodes 1, 2, and 3 of starwars fail is because there is no real main character to connect with in the story.

The same is with Pilgrim, sure the camera is focused on him and following him around but I don't care about him. He's supposed to have some kind of epiphany/turning point when fighting the final ex and we're supposed to like him there. But even then I was like wtf? So his first time in he levels up and gets the "power of love" and he gets creamed. The second time in re levels up and gets the power of self respect and wins. Why?
Scott isn't lacking in the self respect department in any way, in fact he things way too much of himself to begin with. The guys loves himself to a fault, hell the only thing he seems to have a problem with himself is his shaggy hair. I'd think the turning point would be him getting the power of love because he clearly hasn't loved a girl before, he is a guy who changes women like he changes clothing. He hasn't loved before, he just has girlfriends for the sake of having a girlfriend. So the whole gaining of self respect seems kind of an odd choice as his salvation.
Another point the story makes that Scott really is a dick you shouldn't like is that what should be his evil twin is "Actually a Nice Guy"...Scott Pilgrim is so much of a prick that his opposite twin is a nice guy. Think about it.

The main character and the plot problems really ruined the movie for me. What sold the movie to me was the slew of side characters and I found them 10x more funny and interesting then anything Scott and Romona did.
 

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Rednog said:
I closed my ears to everything anyone had to say about the movie, I only saw a single trailer going in and my mind was fresh and I didn't have any expectation. I walked out of the movie thinking, well that was fun, it wasn't the greatest thing I've ever seen, it wasn't the worst thing I have ever seen. I got my money's worth and that's the end, I'll probably watch it once more when it comes out on DVD and that's it.

My complaints about the movie:
The start is slow, and I mean really slow, the build up takes what 20-25 mins? Things didn't really get that interesting until the first evil ex shows up. And what is with the whole interdimensional highway in Scott's head? It's like oh he sees the girl in his head because she is skating through it, and she mentions it and it is never mentioned ever again...why, the guy has this magical doorway in his head you think this might not be something interesting to explore? As a person who hasn't read the comics you sit there and scratch your head going wtf?!
Then we come to the first 3 exes, we get this little flash back cartoon thing that shows how they hooked up with the girl and how they break up...some of which are kind of stupid. I mean its like oh she just pretended to go out with a guy because he was the only non white and then they broke up like a week later....so why is he out to kill her new boyfriend? They never really had any sort of real relationship.
Speaking on that note, why does the League of Evil Exes exist? I understand the concept of oh they're pissed off at the girl and they don't want her to be happy so they block her from getting a boyfriend, but the aim of the league is to have her go back to the last boyfriend? Why? Aren't the other 6 playing on the fact that they're jealous of Scott hooking up with the girl, but they're ok with the 7th hooking up with her?
Back to the whole cartoon backstory thing, why is it dropped for the 4th,5th, 6th, and 7th exes? We really don't know jack about the 4th, 5th, and 6th exes, hell I don't even think the twins had a line of dialogue, they're on screen for like a minute and poof dead. We only get a snippet about the 7th from exposition and even then it isn't much.
Then you go to the character of Scott Pilgrim, I understand in the end he is supposed to be some kind of douche character that we're really not supposed to like. But that's where a lot of stories fail for the general audience, you need some kind of reason to connect or to root for the main character. For example the reason why episodes 1, 2, and 3 of starwars fail is because there is no real main character to connect with in the story.

The same is with Pilgrim, sure the camera is focused on him and following him around but I don't care about him. He's supposed to have some kind of epiphany/turning point when fighting the final ex and we're supposed to like him there. But even then I was like wtf? So his first time in he levels up and gets the "power of love" and he gets creamed. The second time in re levels up and gets the power of self respect and wins. Why?
Scott isn't lacking in the self respect department in any way, in fact he things way too much of himself to begin with. The guys loves himself to a fault, hell the only thing he seems to have a problem with himself is his shaggy hair. I'd think the turning point would be him getting the power of love because he clearly hasn't loved a girl before, he is a guy who changes women like he changes clothing. He hasn't loved before, he just has girlfriends for the sake of having a girlfriend. So the whole gaining of self respect seems kind of an odd choice as his salvation.
Another point the story makes that Scott really is a dick you shouldn't like is that what should be his evil twin is "Actually a Nice Guy"...Scott Pilgrim is so much of a prick that his opposite twin is a nice guy. Think about it.

The main character and the plot problems really ruined the movie for me. What sold the movie to me was the slew of side characters and I found them 10x more funny and interesting then anything Scott and Romona did.
they need a like button cuz that was really good.
 

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MercurySteam said:
Read the comics. Then you'll understand how Scott Pilgrim can blow peoples' socks off. Or just watch this:


So much was left out of the movie, E.g: Lisa, Knives' dad, "The Glow".
i haven't seen the movie, nor read the comics, but they've interested me for a while. Nevertheless, this was awesome.