Screw Final Fantasy VII remake! I want a cel-shaded HD Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross remake!!!

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ultimasupersaiyan

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I know a lot of people want a Final Fantasy VII remake. Even I want it, but why is it that most people scream for a remake of that but not Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross? Admittedly I've only played Chrono Trigger out of the 2 Chrono games because of being in the PAL region Australia, but I think that they deserve a HD cel-shaded remake more then Final Fantasy VII deserves a remake with XIII's graphics quality. I think Chrono Trigger is the best JRPG ever made and ever will be made and it would be so awesome to see it remade and mostly voiced so it can appeal to more people.

I wonder how we can drum it into the higher ups at Square-Enix's heads to do a remake of it?
 

ShadowKatt

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...don't want much, do you?

Not sure why everyone is so bent on remakes. I'd rather see another game in the chrono series than play the same game all over again with new graphics.
 

Mr. In-between

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While this would be really awesome, Chrono Trigger is too short and too perfect of a game to warrant a remake and the money that it would cost to purchase it. This is partly because Chrono Trigger's leveling system was near flawless in that it required little to no grinding if you fought every single enemy in every area.

There has been a fan effort to revamp Chrono Trigger in the form of something called "Chrono Resurrection", but sadly, the project is dead.

http://www.opcoder.com/projects/chrono/
 

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Chrono Cross... Well, it's bad. I mean, there are more horrible games you could play, but there are just some really huge flaws in both gameplay and plot.

CC reimagination would be much better than a simple remake. Cut out the excess characters, tie the plot to CT in less pretentious ways, actually involve Magus in a game that solves his frigging side story.
 

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mostly because Chrono Trigger and Cross don't need to be remade. They were of the best looking games of their eras.

FF7 on the other hand looks absolutely horrible. The middle of the post SNES era and FF8 where they figured out how to do graphics properly.

Honestly I don't want a full out remake as much as I want just updated visuals, where the characters look like people, and not blocks put together
 

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I'd much rather a FF7 remake purely because I hear much more fanboy whining about Chrono Trigger.

And really, why can't people just be satisfied with what they have rather than constantly wanting more? New original ideas and series are, and always will be, better than a remake of something we've already played to death, no matter how good it was.

Also, if we are on the subject of remakes how about Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2?
 

ultimasupersaiyan

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ShadowKatt said:
...don't want much, do you?

Not sure why everyone is so bent on remakes. I'd rather see another game in the chrono series than play the same game all over again with new graphics.
Sometime a good tale needs to be retold to the next generation like with the Zelda series and Chrono Trigger is one of those.

Mr. In-between said:
While this would be really awesome, Chrono Trigger is too short and too perfect of a game to warrant a remake and the money that it would cost to purchase it. This is partly because Chrono Trigger's leveling system was near flawless in that it required little to no grinding if you fought every single enemy in every area.

There has been a fan effort to revamp Chrono Trigger in the form of something called "Chrono Resurrection", but sadly, the project is dead.

http://www.opcoder.com/projects/chrono/
Well I saw the videos for it and it seemed butchered to the original and as for the way the game is for length, It's perfect for a HD upgrade! Look at FFXIII, it's a short game with high end graphics and roughly 60 hours long while Chrono Trigger on the SNES/PS One/DS can be finished in 40 hours for the best ending out of the 13 endings. It's perfectly compacted to suit the modern consoles game lengths and I believe with better graphics showing the emotions and top notch voice acting, the game will have even more of an impact then it originally did.
 

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xavierxenon said:
I'd much rather a FF7 remake purely because I hear much more fanboy whining about Chrono Trigger.

And really, why can't people just be satisfied with what they have rather than constantly wanting more? New original ideas and series are, and always will be, better than a remake of something we've already played to death, no matter how good it was.
I'll agree with you on the second point but as to the first part of your post, I'd like to ask if you are living in an alternate universe.

There is infinitely more bitching in regards to Final Fantasy 7 then there is regarding Chrono Trigger. Why? Because Square decided to pander to the teeny-bopper Sephiroth fans with Advent Children and now everyone and their mother expects a remake of 7.

Honestly, what was so great about 7? The materia system was good and the city of the ancients was cool, but aside from that, what made the game so great as to warrant a remake? Having all of the characters look like ultra-real creepy CG Japanese would make the game less believable and more cheesy in the long run and just serve to perpetuate the myth already perpetuated by anime dorks that 7 is "the best game ever".
 

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I hated Chrono Cross. It wasn't that great of a game for me and the Dragonball Z style killed my mood. I was expecting a Kamehameha all the time.
 

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ultimasupersaiyan said:
ShadowKatt said:
...don't want much, do you?

Not sure why everyone is so bent on remakes. I'd rather see another game in the chrono series than play the same game all over again with new graphics.
Sometime a good tale needs to be retold to the next generation like with the Zelda series and Chrono Trigger is one of those.
So what you're saying is, you want a second remake of Chrono Trigger?
Why? Didn't the first remake come out in like 2007ish?
 

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No remake. I want another game in the series. One that deals with the heroes from the first game, and not the army of blandness from the second game. Although I will admit, it was nice that you got to save the princess from the first game in the second one.
 

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ultimasupersaiyan said:
Well I saw the videos for it and it seemed butchered to the original and as for the way the game is for length, It's perfect for a HD upgrade! Look at FFXIII, it's a short game with high end graphics and roughly 60 hours long while Chrono Trigger on the SNES/PS One/DS can be finished in 40 hours for the best ending out of the 13 endings. It's perfectly compacted to suit the modern consoles game lengths and I believe with better graphics showing the emotions and top notch voice acting, the game will have even more of an impact then it originally did.
The problem that you run into with voice-acting is that you get the Final Fantasy 10 effect where you have to sit through lengthy cutscenes until the characters finish talking instead of just pressing a button once you finish reading a dialogue box.

Also, remakes make older titles appear infinitely more shallow. Take Square's recent revamps of Final Fantasy 3 & 4.
 

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Mr. In-between said:
The problem that you run into with voice-acting is that you get the Final Fantasy 10 effect where you have to sit through lengthy cutscenes until the characters finish talking instead of just pressing a button once you finish reading a dialogue box.
A simple solution is press the X button to kill the voice and have the dialogue appear in a box that can be removed for a more cinematic view, like in some of the speech scenes in Lost Odyssey but in the entire game.
 

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I actually want Squeenix to stop remaking Chrono Trigger. First repackaging was with FF IV(my favorite in the series) for the PSX, and that was okay, because they didn't change a damn thing, and it brought two of the best games for the SNES to the attention of those whose only exposure to video games was disc-based. Then, they redid it again for the DS. There's no way to type out what I feel about what they did to this so I will link something that kinda shows it a bit
http://homestarrunner.com/cantsayjob.html
Specifically the bit when he tries to say "job" in the movie theater. They tacked on a fucking quest-giver-village and a Pokemon-esque monster battle arena. So, no. I don't want to see how else they can horribly mangle one of the great classics.

As for Chrono Cross...if they had a different title, changed certain location-specific names, and made no attempt whatsoever to actually link it to Trigger, I might've liked it a lot better. It was probably a better game than I remember, it just didn't hold a candle to Trigger's star-going-supernova.

Now can we please stop asking for remakes based on graphics quality? A good game is a good game regardless of the graphics. If you really want to cash in on the old greats, release them on Wii Shop or PlayStation Network as is. No changes needed.
 

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Did enough people actually like it enough to care? I've only ever even heard of it in passing on occasion.

Why ask for a remake when you can just play the original? Don't you get that pissing on about remakes purely for graphics is clearly contrary to your love of the game(s) in question? I own a copy of FFVII and I'll probably play it again in the future on my PS2 as I have twice before, I'll play KotOR too at some point in the future. I enjoyed them with their graphics at the time I don't need realism to to enjoy them again.
 

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ultimasupersaiyan said:
Mr. In-between said:
The problem that you run into with voice-acting is that you get the Final Fantasy 10 effect where you have to sit through lengthy cutscenes until the characters finish talking instead of just pressing a button once you finish reading a dialogue box.
A simple solution is press the X button to kill the voice and have the dialogue appear in a box that can be removed for a more cinematic view, like in some of the speech scenes in Lost Odyssey but in the entire game.
Square won't do that because they became pretentious dongs after they released Final Fantasy 10 and they now believe that their games are nothing short of staggering dramatic genius.

Since a revamp of Chrono Trigger would introduce a new generation to the title, Square would want to ensure that everyone "fully understood the complexities of the narrative" or whatever it is that they have been aiming at for the past 10 years.
 

ultimasupersaiyan

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manythings said:
Did enough people actually like it enough to care? I've only ever even heard of it in passing on occasion.

Why ask for a remake when you can just play the original? Don't you get that pissing on about remakes purely for graphics is clearly contrary to your love of the game(s) in question? I own a copy of FFVII and I'll probably play it again in the future on my PS2 as I have twice before, I'll play KotOR too at some point in the future. I enjoyed them with their graphics at the time I don't need realism to to enjoy them again.
I don't want a realistic remake. I want the same artwork in cel-shaded HD graphics. Also with a graphical upgrade it may attract new fans for the game. You'd be surprised on how superfiscial some people are about graphics. My best friends first compant about a game is usually the graphics and I know w whole bunch of people like that.
 

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ultimasupersaiyan said:
manythings said:
Did enough people actually like it enough to care? I've only ever even heard of it in passing on occasion.

Why ask for a remake when you can just play the original? Don't you get that pissing on about remakes purely for graphics is clearly contrary to your love of the game(s) in question? I own a copy of FFVII and I'll probably play it again in the future on my PS2 as I have twice before, I'll play KotOR too at some point in the future. I enjoyed them with their graphics at the time I don't need realism to to enjoy them again.
I don't want a realistic remake. I want the same artwork in cel-shaded HD graphics. Also with a graphical upgrade it may attract new fans for the game. You'd be surprised on how superfiscial some people are about graphics. My best friends first compant about a game is usually the graphics and I know w whole bunch of people like that.
That's why I classify people like that as "Stupid".