wc alligator said:
Kpt._Rob said:
WW is an awesome hero because she's this powerful feminist figure, but instead of portraying her as awesome as she is they're gonna fuck it up and make her one of the same inane female characters that Hollywood always uses. So, before we go about changing another character, let's be sure that they can get the ones who are already around right.
Why does everyone keep saying that? She goes around in a corset, tiara and star spangled knickers, so she is basically dressed like a retarded whore, and then some writer or artist or whatever decides to give her some pants and a jacket and everyone(not Kpt._Rob in particular) is like "Oh, now she just looks like a whore." The fuck is wrong with these people? How the flan is
more dignified than
Are pants and sleeves misogynist or slutty in some way?
I guess there are kind of two ways of looking at it, yes, an outfit like the original
could be viewed as nothing more than a cynical attempt to snare horny nerds into reading, but I'm relatively certain that that's not the case. I don't know if you've seen
Moviebob's Big Picture episode where he explains the origins of Wonder Woman; I'm not going to go into it here, but if you haven't, watching it might help you understand, and it'll be a good supplement to what I have to say.
At the time WW was originally written, women's liberation didn't have the ground it has today, the treatment of women presented in the Christian bible was still very pervasive in society. Part of that was that women were viewed as lesser beings, their bodies were things to be ashamed of, and as such they were supposed to keep their bodies covered. Today scanty clothing on women is pretty common place, and ironically enough we often look at it inversely now, that is that the current masculine power structure takes advantage of women by forcing them to show off their bodies for male approval. But at the time WW was written, a uniform like Wonder Woman's makes a hell of a statement, it showed her as a powerful woman who was proud of who she was and wasn't going to cower to a masculine structure which forced her to hide her femininity.
I don't really know what to think of the new uniform, perhaps for our current times it would be more accurate to what a character like Wonder Woman would wear. That is to say the way in which Wonder Woman can use her uniform to symbolize her feminine strength could have changed, and so now this uniform actually is a better symbol for what she represents. But I just don't know if that's really true. The new uniform just seems like an act of caving to the newer iterations of that old call for women to "cover their shame".
Maybe it's just that it's not as iconic, you said that the second seemed more dignified, but in all honesty, does it really? Oh sure, it's more conservative and if you look at WW's uniform with no understanding of its background, then I guess it might seem less slutty (though just to reiterate, being slutty was not the original intent of the uniform), but she just looks like any girl wandering around a college campus, that is to say that the statement of the uniform is "well, now that women are equal I'll just dress like all the other girls." I don't want to get into the debate over whether or not that's accurate (though I would say it's probably not), but if Wonder Woman is to maintain the powerfully feminist tones that make her an interesting character, then she would almost definitely not agree. All that aside, the new uniform just seems like a marketing ploy to make the character, (who has, quite unfortunately, become increasingly irrelevant) a little more palatable to current society, and I'll just make my point one more time, WW is not about making women palatable to society, she's about making society deal with the fact that Women shouldn't be limited by their gender.