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I'm still enjoying Death Battle, heck, I watched all the episodes, even ones with fighters I know nothing about.

Death Battle has shown some of the best fights I've ever seen and the analysis on each combatant is always interesting (it says something when the only analysis I question is the dismissive attitude Wiz and Boomstick gave Michelangelo in the TMNT Battle Royale episode).

And I even respect the outcome of each fight even if the combatant I've been rooting for loses in the end.

Needless to say, I'll always look forward to the next Death Battle and I don't see that changing anytime soon (though I'm still praying for that Crash vs Spyro Death Battle that we still don't have yet for some reason).
 

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Eh, I think it's okay, I watch it and try not to take it too seriously when my bet loses; DoomGuy should've TOTALLY beat Master Chief, what the FU-

And Bayonetta losing to Dante, wasn't too happy 'bout that either, I'm super salty.
 

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Eh, I think it's okay, I watch it and try not to take it too seriously when my bet loses; DoomGuy should've TOTALLY beat Master Chief, what the FU-

And Bayonetta losing to Dante, wasn't too happy 'bout that either, I'm super salty.
At the very least, they should redo it for New Doomguy. I'm not in contention about the Dante result, but at least Bayonetta hasn't had any cheap knockoffs impersonating her, right?
 

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I don't care much about Death Battles. The concept is silly and the execution that I've seen is technically what advertised a bit boring. I think I have only seen one and didn't care much for it. But even while decrying the concept, I have to intercede about this:

Samtemdo8 said:
And a good number of fights have been so predictable especially when it comes to certain matchups, like the next one is gonna be Tracer from Overwatch and The Scout from TF2 and I think its obvious Tracer's gonna win unless they pull something out of their ass for Scout to Win.
While I think that Tracer will win the video, tehre are several reason why I think the Scout can win.First, teh Crit COmbo. A Sandman+ FLying Guillotine can effectively one shot tracer without giving her the ability to react. The sandman stunts Tracer, denying the Blink and Recall abilities and teh Guillotine makes 150 damage to stunned players, emaning Tracer is dead. The you have otehr unlockables, like the F.A.N., The Soda Popper, Mad Milk, BONK, Crit-A-Cola, Atomizer, Fan-O-War, Boston Basher, all of which can give teh advatege to the Scout (specially if they allow him to use several at the same time). For example, the Bonk can completelydeny her Pulse Bomb ulti. And any scattergun can two shot Tracer at point blank range meatshot. Even with Crits off. WHIle Tracer needs half her clip hitting at max damage to kill the Scout. They will make her win, but he has an arsenal that can significantly hurt the Overwatch hero.
 

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kurokotetsu said:
I don't care much about Death Battles. The concept is silly and the execution that I've seen is technically what advertised a bit boring. I think I have only seen one and didn't care much for it. But even while decrying the concept, I have to intercede about this:

Samtemdo8 said:
And a good number of fights have been so predictable especially when it comes to certain matchups, like the next one is gonna be Tracer from Overwatch and The Scout from TF2 and I think its obvious Tracer's gonna win unless they pull something out of their ass for Scout to Win.
While I think that Tracer will win the video, tehre are several reason why I think the Scout can win.First, teh Crit COmbo. A Sandman+ FLying Guillotine can effectively one shot tracer without giving her the ability to react. The sandman stunts Tracer, denying the Blink and Recall abilities and teh Guillotine makes 150 damage to stunned players, emaning Tracer is dead. The you have otehr unlockables, like the F.A.N., The Soda Popper, Mad Milk, BONK, Crit-A-Cola, Atomizer, Fan-O-War, Boston Basher, all of which can give teh advatege to the Scout (specially if they allow him to use several at the same time). For example, the Bonk can completelydeny her Pulse Bomb ulti. And any scattergun can two shot Tracer at point blank range meatshot. Even with Crits off. WHIle Tracer needs half her clip hitting at max damage to kill the Scout. They will make her win, but he has an arsenal that can significantly hurt the Overwatch hero.

Aaaaaaand Tracer won....Shocker :p
 

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The problem I have with Death Battle is the fact they're biased.

Sure, they do research but they'll not include everything about a given character, and they do unfair match ups. Like when they had Vegeta vs Shadow, it was clearly going to be one sided. The one battle that got me pretty rustled was when they had Toph vs Gaara.

Now, I am a fan of both shows (Avatar the Last Air Bender / Naruto Shippuden) but there was a major flaw in the fight. Gaara's sand can reach speeds that even caught up to the Raikage, the Lightning Kage. Never in the series has Toph fought someone going at lightning speeds, let alone able to deflect / protect herself from such speeds.

Some quotes from Hive0

Claim #1:
Toph can sense earth in the air so she can always tell were Gaara's attacks are coming from.

Response:
Being able to detect an attack is one thing. Being able to actually block/avoid it is another. Having 360 degree vision is definitley advantageous, but it doesn't mean much when your opponents attacks operate at a level of power and speed you've never shown to be able handle. I'll get to that later. Additionally, ever since part two, Gaara has fought primarily in the air. Among other things, this gives him a much better view of the battlefield, meaning he'll also be able to see and intercept any attack Toph can throw at him. This isn't an advantage for Toph, it's simply a lack of a disadvantage.

http://screwattack.roosterteeth.com/post/51229925
and

Claim #2:
Gaara's sand is still sand, so Toph would be able to control it.

Response:
Two problems with this, the second of which I'll elaborate on later.

The first problem is that it assumes that Toph is capable of controlling living sand. It's made very clear in the avatarverse that bending an element that is "living" is extremely difficult and requires much practice. There's a reason why bloodbending is only known to a select few, requires training, and can only be done during a full moon(excluding a small number of individuals who can do it without a full moon, but that required large amounts of training on their part), when waterbending is at its strongest. For those claiming that the difficulty of bloodbending is because of the mixture of water with other impurities, that's never been stated to be the case, and frankly wouldn't make much sense. Water is water, there's no real reason for why a water benders ability to bend it would be affected by any other substances surrounding it. In addition, if it was simply a matter of precision, then the full moon wouldn't be necessary in order for most bloodbenders to bloodbend. The full moon greatly boosts the raw power of water bending, but there's no evidence that it allows waterbenders to bend with more precision than they normally do. Finally, in Legend of Korra, bending is never presented as an option in dealing with the spirit vines. Korra was forced to go into the avatar state and use energy bending in order to subdue them.
The second problem is that this assumes that Toph even has the raw power or speed needed to be able to deflect Gaara's attacks in the first place. This is not the case.
This is a bit of an aside, but it's also worth mentioning that Gaara's sand control does not work like bending. When he sends sand after someone, he maintains control over it. Meaning, Toph couldn't simply push it to the side to set it off course, as it would be constantly homing in on her. Raising rock walls to block it would also be futile as the streams of sand could either go around them, or simply bore directly through them. The way DB depicted Gaara's sand working like simple thrown projectiles was extremely innacurate.

http://screwattack.roosterteeth.com/post/51229925


The final nail in the coffin was Deadpool vs Deathstoke. I understand that Deadpool is immortal, but Deathstroke is so highly skilled and get this- He has the capacity to use up to 90 percent of his brain at any one time, making him a tactical genius, adept at turning his opponents' own abilities against them; so why does the guy who's a pun making meme'r capable to best someone with that level of skill? . .. It was decided because of popularity, revenue, you know, money. They only do enough research to make both sides sound equal but in battle, it's obviously clear as to what research is used in the battle itself while they leave out other factors because they're very biased. I like Deadpool WAY more than Deathstroke but I knew who should of won that fight.
I hate Deadpool, I despise the charcater.

He represents everything I hate about Marvel right now and the current internet and their obssession with "Meme-y Self Aware Humor"

And the man is the biggest Mary Sue since Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Aaaaaaand Tracer won....Shocker :p
Shocker indeed, this is one of the times i don't agree with the result regardless how obvious it was in your eyes.

1) Tracer started with her ultimate charged up, had no limit on her teleporting when she does have limits in the games
2) Tracer was tanking tons of damage she shouldn't have been able to
3) Scout was proven faster, I said as much in a previous comment here. Yet screw attack set up Tracer as the faster one, so..wtf happened here? xD
4) Scout's main asset was speed and mobility, spends entire match mostly walking still and being an easy target. Cmon you gotta admit that was BS.

So yeh color me as surprised and disagreeing with the result. Ffs i don't even play tf2 so it's not like you can say im some die hard tf2 fanboy
 

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ryan_cs said:
Smithnikov said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Smithnikov said:
After Deadpool vs Deathstroke, they lost me.
Only a fool would think Deathstroke ahd a chance of winning because Deadpool is pretty much everyone's now number 1 favorite Superhero surpassing Batman, Spiderman, Iron Man, and X-Men in terms of popularity.
Hence why they lost me.
Samtemdo8 said:
Fappy said:
Yeah, the current season has been pretty boring so far. Uninteresting match ups combined with poorer logic and more cherry picked feats of strength than in previous seasons.

Would also be nice to get a few more "even" fights. So many of the outcomes are so painfully obvious.
And its usually a dead giveaway who would win because when they announce the next match they reveal only one opponant and the reconizable one is the most likely indicator of being the winner.
Shao Kahn is more popular than M Bison? Blanka is more popular than Pikachu? I'm pretty sure Wolverene is more famous than Raiden, and so is Darth Vader compared to Doctor Doom.

There are things about Death Battle I dislike, like the results of some fights like Garra vs Toph and Kirby vs Buu, and how they don't mention some of the more ridiculous feats like the insane stuff from MGS and the fact that Deadpool is literally immortal. I also don't like that some of the fights are incredibly obvious, but it's not because a character's more famous than the other.

While yes, sometimes I feel like the more popular character is the one who's going to win, are you sure it's not confirmation bias?
I get Pickachu to a degree.

But M.Bison is more popular than Shao Kahn? And let me guess because of his "OF COURSE!" meme?

Yeah that is certainly gonna help him win against Shao fuckin Kahn.
 

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Caramel Frappe said:
The problem I have with Death Battle is the fact they're biased.

Sure, they do research but they'll not include everything about a given character, and they do unfair match ups. Like when they had Vegeta vs Shadow, it was clearly going to be one sided. The one battle that got me pretty rustled was when they had Toph vs Gaara.

Now, I am a fan of both shows (Avatar the Last Air Bender / Naruto Shippuden) but there was a major flaw in the fight. Gaara's sand can reach speeds that even caught up to the Raikage, the Lightning Kage. Never in the series has Toph fought someone going at lightning speeds, let alone able to deflect / protect herself from such speeds.

Some quotes from Hive0

Claim #1:
Toph can sense earth in the air so she can always tell were Gaara's attacks are coming from.

Response:
Being able to detect an attack is one thing. Being able to actually block/avoid it is another. Having 360 degree vision is definitley advantageous, but it doesn't mean much when your opponents attacks operate at a level of power and speed you've never shown to be able handle. I'll get to that later. Additionally, ever since part two, Gaara has fought primarily in the air. Among other things, this gives him a much better view of the battlefield, meaning he'll also be able to see and intercept any attack Toph can throw at him. This isn't an advantage for Toph, it's simply a lack of a disadvantage.

http://screwattack.roosterteeth.com/post/51229925
and

Claim #2:
Gaara's sand is still sand, so Toph would be able to control it.

Response:
Two problems with this, the second of which I'll elaborate on later.

The first problem is that it assumes that Toph is capable of controlling living sand. It's made very clear in the avatarverse that bending an element that is "living" is extremely difficult and requires much practice. There's a reason why bloodbending is only known to a select few, requires training, and can only be done during a full moon(excluding a small number of individuals who can do it without a full moon, but that required large amounts of training on their part), when waterbending is at its strongest. For those claiming that the difficulty of bloodbending is because of the mixture of water with other impurities, that's never been stated to be the case, and frankly wouldn't make much sense. Water is water, there's no real reason for why a water benders ability to bend it would be affected by any other substances surrounding it. In addition, if it was simply a matter of precision, then the full moon wouldn't be necessary in order for most bloodbenders to bloodbend. The full moon greatly boosts the raw power of water bending, but there's no evidence that it allows waterbenders to bend with more precision than they normally do. Finally, in Legend of Korra, bending is never presented as an option in dealing with the spirit vines. Korra was forced to go into the avatar state and use energy bending in order to subdue them.
The second problem is that this assumes that Toph even has the raw power or speed needed to be able to deflect Gaara's attacks in the first place. This is not the case.
This is a bit of an aside, but it's also worth mentioning that Gaara's sand control does not work like bending. When he sends sand after someone, he maintains control over it. Meaning, Toph couldn't simply push it to the side to set it off course, as it would be constantly homing in on her. Raising rock walls to block it would also be futile as the streams of sand could either go around them, or simply bore directly through them. The way DB depicted Gaara's sand working like simple thrown projectiles was extremely innacurate.

http://screwattack.roosterteeth.com/post/51229925
I've seen both shows, and despite I really like Toph ... she could not best Gaara the way Death Battle scripted. She would most certainly lose, or struggle surviving at least until she somehow tricked Gaara but because he's capable of reacting to the speed of someone with lightning powers ... Toph really wouldn't stand much of a chance.

She only won because of popularity. A lot of these Death Battles go with popularity, even in the Goku vs Superman battle. Sure a LOT of people seemed to be on the side of Goku, but there are more DC fans than Anime fans possibly combined (at least in America). I'm not saying that Superman couldn't best Goku, but how they had Superman casually walk through Goku's Kameha x100 while he's in Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan mode was a middle finger to not just Goku supporters, but to those subscribed to Death Battle itself. I don't mind my favorite character losing, but it has to be UNBIASED and not in favor of making the other opponent look good, or stand out. Heck when they did the Yang vs Tifa match up .... ... is no one going to point out how Yang is a character on RWBY, which Rooster Teeth runs??? You know, the same website that runs Death Battle ...? They had a character from their own website matched up against Tifa, and they weren't going to let her lose obviously.

The final nail in the coffin was Deadpool vs Deathstoke. I understand that Deadpool is immortal, but Deathstroke is so highly skilled and get this- He has the capacity to use up to 90 percent of his brain at any one time, making him a tactical genius, adept at turning his opponents' own abilities against them; so why does the guy who's a pun making meme'r capable to best someone with that level of skill? . .. It was decided because of popularity, revenue, you know, money. They only do enough research to make both sides sound equal but in battle, it's obviously clear as to what research is used in the battle itself while they leave out other factors because they're very biased. I like Deadpool WAY more than Deathstroke but I knew who should of won that fight.
You are telling me Raiden is more popular than Wolverine or Spiderman is more popular than Batman or Yang is more popular than Tifa, sure the whole Toph vs Gaara fight is BS but the fights arent based on popularity also I think Darth Vader is more popular than Doom
 

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PapaGreg096 said:
Caramel Frappe said:
The problem I have with Death Battle is the fact they're biased.

Sure, they do research but they'll not include everything about a given character, and they do unfair match ups. Like when they had Vegeta vs Shadow, it was clearly going to be one sided. The one battle that got me pretty rustled was when they had Toph vs Gaara.

Now, I am a fan of both shows (Avatar the Last Air Bender / Naruto Shippuden) but there was a major flaw in the fight. Gaara's sand can reach speeds that even caught up to the Raikage, the Lightning Kage. Never in the series has Toph fought someone going at lightning speeds, let alone able to deflect / protect herself from such speeds.

Some quotes from Hive0

Claim #1:
Toph can sense earth in the air so she can always tell were Gaara's attacks are coming from.

Response:
Being able to detect an attack is one thing. Being able to actually block/avoid it is another. Having 360 degree vision is definitley advantageous, but it doesn't mean much when your opponents attacks operate at a level of power and speed you've never shown to be able handle. I'll get to that later. Additionally, ever since part two, Gaara has fought primarily in the air. Among other things, this gives him a much better view of the battlefield, meaning he'll also be able to see and intercept any attack Toph can throw at him. This isn't an advantage for Toph, it's simply a lack of a disadvantage.

http://screwattack.roosterteeth.com/post/51229925
and

Claim #2:
Gaara's sand is still sand, so Toph would be able to control it.

Response:
Two problems with this, the second of which I'll elaborate on later.

The first problem is that it assumes that Toph is capable of controlling living sand. It's made very clear in the avatarverse that bending an element that is "living" is extremely difficult and requires much practice. There's a reason why bloodbending is only known to a select few, requires training, and can only be done during a full moon(excluding a small number of individuals who can do it without a full moon, but that required large amounts of training on their part), when waterbending is at its strongest. For those claiming that the difficulty of bloodbending is because of the mixture of water with other impurities, that's never been stated to be the case, and frankly wouldn't make much sense. Water is water, there's no real reason for why a water benders ability to bend it would be affected by any other substances surrounding it. In addition, if it was simply a matter of precision, then the full moon wouldn't be necessary in order for most bloodbenders to bloodbend. The full moon greatly boosts the raw power of water bending, but there's no evidence that it allows waterbenders to bend with more precision than they normally do. Finally, in Legend of Korra, bending is never presented as an option in dealing with the spirit vines. Korra was forced to go into the avatar state and use energy bending in order to subdue them.
The second problem is that this assumes that Toph even has the raw power or speed needed to be able to deflect Gaara's attacks in the first place. This is not the case.
This is a bit of an aside, but it's also worth mentioning that Gaara's sand control does not work like bending. When he sends sand after someone, he maintains control over it. Meaning, Toph couldn't simply push it to the side to set it off course, as it would be constantly homing in on her. Raising rock walls to block it would also be futile as the streams of sand could either go around them, or simply bore directly through them. The way DB depicted Gaara's sand working like simple thrown projectiles was extremely innacurate.

http://screwattack.roosterteeth.com/post/51229925
I've seen both shows, and despite I really like Toph ... she could not best Gaara the way Death Battle scripted. She would most certainly lose, or struggle surviving at least until she somehow tricked Gaara but because he's capable of reacting to the speed of someone with lightning powers ... Toph really wouldn't stand much of a chance.

She only won because of popularity. A lot of these Death Battles go with popularity, even in the Goku vs Superman battle. Sure a LOT of people seemed to be on the side of Goku, but there are more DC fans than Anime fans possibly combined (at least in America). I'm not saying that Superman couldn't best Goku, but how they had Superman casually walk through Goku's Kameha x100 while he's in Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan mode was a middle finger to not just Goku supporters, but to those subscribed to Death Battle itself. I don't mind my favorite character losing, but it has to be UNBIASED and not in favor of making the other opponent look good, or stand out. Heck when they did the Yang vs Tifa match up .... ... is no one going to point out how Yang is a character on RWBY, which Rooster Teeth runs??? You know, the same website that runs Death Battle ...? They had a character from their own website matched up against Tifa, and they weren't going to let her lose obviously.

The final nail in the coffin was Deadpool vs Deathstoke. I understand that Deadpool is immortal, but Deathstroke is so highly skilled and get this- He has the capacity to use up to 90 percent of his brain at any one time, making him a tactical genius, adept at turning his opponents' own abilities against them; so why does the guy who's a pun making meme'r capable to best someone with that level of skill? . .. It was decided because of popularity, revenue, you know, money. They only do enough research to make both sides sound equal but in battle, it's obviously clear as to what research is used in the battle itself while they leave out other factors because they're very biased. I like Deadpool WAY more than Deathstroke but I knew who should of won that fight.
You are telling me Raiden is more popular than Wolverine or Spiderman is more popular than Batman or Yang is more popular than Tifa, sure the whole Toph vs Gaara fight is BS but the fights arent based on popularity also I think Darth Vader is more popular than Doom
1. They should have used Marvel vs Capcom Wolverine against MGS Raiden, not actual X-Men Wolverine.

2. I don't know Spiderman is reletively equal in popularity as Batman, I mean shit every Marvel movie fanboy begs for Sony to relinquish the movie rights to Marvel/Disney I mean fuck Spiderman is still the face of Marvel.

3. Yang's victory is because she is a flavor of the month charcater because everyone was still salivating for the show RWBY.

4. Darth Vader mabye popular but he has never been portrayed as ridiculously powerful as a Superhero/Villain character. Besides I think matching him with Doctor Doom of a charcaters thematically just does not fit. You need someone a Darth Vader's level.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
PapaGreg096 said:
Caramel Frappe said:
The problem I have with Death Battle is the fact they're biased.

Sure, they do research but they'll not include everything about a given character, and they do unfair match ups. Like when they had Vegeta vs Shadow, it was clearly going to be one sided. The one battle that got me pretty rustled was when they had Toph vs Gaara.

Now, I am a fan of both shows (Avatar the Last Air Bender / Naruto Shippuden) but there was a major flaw in the fight. Gaara's sand can reach speeds that even caught up to the Raikage, the Lightning Kage. Never in the series has Toph fought someone going at lightning speeds, let alone able to deflect / protect herself from such speeds.

Some quotes from Hive0

Claim #1:
Toph can sense earth in the air so she can always tell were Gaara's attacks are coming from.

Response:
Being able to detect an attack is one thing. Being able to actually block/avoid it is another. Having 360 degree vision is definitley advantageous, but it doesn't mean much when your opponents attacks operate at a level of power and speed you've never shown to be able handle. I'll get to that later. Additionally, ever since part two, Gaara has fought primarily in the air. Among other things, this gives him a much better view of the battlefield, meaning he'll also be able to see and intercept any attack Toph can throw at him. This isn't an advantage for Toph, it's simply a lack of a disadvantage.

http://screwattack.roosterteeth.com/post/51229925
and

Claim #2:
Gaara's sand is still sand, so Toph would be able to control it.

Response:
Two problems with this, the second of which I'll elaborate on later.

The first problem is that it assumes that Toph is capable of controlling living sand. It's made very clear in the avatarverse that bending an element that is "living" is extremely difficult and requires much practice. There's a reason why bloodbending is only known to a select few, requires training, and can only be done during a full moon(excluding a small number of individuals who can do it without a full moon, but that required large amounts of training on their part), when waterbending is at its strongest. For those claiming that the difficulty of bloodbending is because of the mixture of water with other impurities, that's never been stated to be the case, and frankly wouldn't make much sense. Water is water, there's no real reason for why a water benders ability to bend it would be affected by any other substances surrounding it. In addition, if it was simply a matter of precision, then the full moon wouldn't be necessary in order for most bloodbenders to bloodbend. The full moon greatly boosts the raw power of water bending, but there's no evidence that it allows waterbenders to bend with more precision than they normally do. Finally, in Legend of Korra, bending is never presented as an option in dealing with the spirit vines. Korra was forced to go into the avatar state and use energy bending in order to subdue them.
The second problem is that this assumes that Toph even has the raw power or speed needed to be able to deflect Gaara's attacks in the first place. This is not the case.
This is a bit of an aside, but it's also worth mentioning that Gaara's sand control does not work like bending. When he sends sand after someone, he maintains control over it. Meaning, Toph couldn't simply push it to the side to set it off course, as it would be constantly homing in on her. Raising rock walls to block it would also be futile as the streams of sand could either go around them, or simply bore directly through them. The way DB depicted Gaara's sand working like simple thrown projectiles was extremely innacurate.

http://screwattack.roosterteeth.com/post/51229925
I've seen both shows, and despite I really like Toph ... she could not best Gaara the way Death Battle scripted. She would most certainly lose, or struggle surviving at least until she somehow tricked Gaara but because he's capable of reacting to the speed of someone with lightning powers ... Toph really wouldn't stand much of a chance.

She only won because of popularity. A lot of these Death Battles go with popularity, even in the Goku vs Superman battle. Sure a LOT of people seemed to be on the side of Goku, but there are more DC fans than Anime fans possibly combined (at least in America). I'm not saying that Superman couldn't best Goku, but how they had Superman casually walk through Goku's Kameha x100 while he's in Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan mode was a middle finger to not just Goku supporters, but to those subscribed to Death Battle itself. I don't mind my favorite character losing, but it has to be UNBIASED and not in favor of making the other opponent look good, or stand out. Heck when they did the Yang vs Tifa match up .... ... is no one going to point out how Yang is a character on RWBY, which Rooster Teeth runs??? You know, the same website that runs Death Battle ...? They had a character from their own website matched up against Tifa, and they weren't going to let her lose obviously.

The final nail in the coffin was Deadpool vs Deathstoke. I understand that Deadpool is immortal, but Deathstroke is so highly skilled and get this- He has the capacity to use up to 90 percent of his brain at any one time, making him a tactical genius, adept at turning his opponents' own abilities against them; so why does the guy who's a pun making meme'r capable to best someone with that level of skill? . .. It was decided because of popularity, revenue, you know, money. They only do enough research to make both sides sound equal but in battle, it's obviously clear as to what research is used in the battle itself while they leave out other factors because they're very biased. I like Deadpool WAY more than Deathstroke but I knew who should of won that fight.
You are telling me Raiden is more popular than Wolverine or Spiderman is more popular than Batman or Yang is more popular than Tifa, sure the whole Toph vs Gaara fight is BS but the fights arent based on popularity also I think Darth Vader is more popular than Doom
1. They should have used Marvel vs Capcom Wolverine against MGS Raiden, not actual X-Men Wolverine.

2. I don't know Spiderman is reletively equal in popularity as Batman, I mean shit every Marvel movie fanboy begs for Sony to relinquish the movie rights to Marvel/Disney I mean fuck Spiderman is still the face of Marvel.

3. Yang's victory is because she is a flavor of the month charcater because everyone was still salivating for the show RWBY.

4. Darth Vader mabye popular but he has never been portrayed as ridiculously powerful as a Superhero/Villain character. Besides I think matching him with Doctor Doom of a charcaters thematically just does not fit. You need someone a Darth Vader's level.
1. That doesn't really makes sense since that Wolverine doesn't have any feats and is pretty much comic Wolverine

2.I say its 50/50
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
ryan_cs said:
Smithnikov said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Smithnikov said:
After Deadpool vs Deathstroke, they lost me.
Only a fool would think Deathstroke ahd a chance of winning because Deadpool is pretty much everyone's now number 1 favorite Superhero surpassing Batman, Spiderman, Iron Man, and X-Men in terms of popularity.
Hence why they lost me.
Samtemdo8 said:
Fappy said:
Yeah, the current season has been pretty boring so far. Uninteresting match ups combined with poorer logic and more cherry picked feats of strength than in previous seasons.

Would also be nice to get a few more "even" fights. So many of the outcomes are so painfully obvious.
And its usually a dead giveaway who would win because when they announce the next match they reveal only one opponant and the reconizable one is the most likely indicator of being the winner.
Shao Kahn is more popular than M Bison? Blanka is more popular than Pikachu? I'm pretty sure Wolverene is more famous than Raiden, and so is Darth Vader compared to Doctor Doom.

There are things about Death Battle I dislike, like the results of some fights like Garra vs Toph and Kirby vs Buu, and how they don't mention some of the more ridiculous feats like the insane stuff from MGS and the fact that Deadpool is literally immortal. I also don't like that some of the fights are incredibly obvious, but it's not because a character's more famous than the other.

While yes, sometimes I feel like the more popular character is the one who's going to win, are you sure it's not confirmation bias?
I get Pickachu to a degree.

But M.Bison is more popular than Shao Kahn? And let me guess because of his "OF COURSE!" meme?

Yeah that is certainly gonna help him win against Shao fuckin Kahn.
Probably shouldn't have picked that, I'm not really familiar with how popular one character is against the other. I picked M Bison because I've been reading a manga where Street Fighter is more heavily featured than Mortal Combat.
 

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I think they're still fairly fun so long as you don't take them too seriously.
 

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Eh, I like them but there hasn't been one that really excited me in a while. I was interested in Tracer v Scout, but my first thought was that would be such a one-sided fight. But then I remembered Kirby vs Majiin Buu, one of my favourite Death Battles, where they took a seemingly ridiculous premise for a fight and managed to twist it around into something incredible, just by reinterpreting a bit of character subtext.

So I was hoping to be surprised by Tracer v Scout, but no, it was just as one-sided and boring as you'd expect.
Not that I minded Tracer winning, that's fair enough. I just wish it wasn't so obvious throughout the fight that Scout had nothing on her except for the Bonk! energy drink.

My favourite ones are the close matchups: Wolverine vs Raiden, Snake vs Sam Fischer, the first Goku vs Superman (which felt close even if it ultimately wasn't). I'm not one of those anoraks who gets into a lather over the outcome because their favourite didn't win, I couldn't care less. I just haven't seen a matchup that interests me in a while. I mean, Caroline vs Meta!? You're taking the most wanky aspect of Red vs Blue (the Freelancer shit), and a matchup that already happened in the show no less? Why not do a Death Battle between the actual Reds and Blues, that has the potential for great action comedy.
 

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Frankster said:
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Aaaaaaand Tracer won....Shocker :p
Shocker indeed, this is one of the times i don't agree with the result regardless how obvious it was in your eyes.

1) Tracer started with her ultimate charged up, had no limit on her teleporting when she does have limits in the games
2) Tracer was tanking tons of damage she shouldn't have been able to
3) Scout was proven faster, I said as much in a previous comment here. Yet screw attack set up Tracer as the faster one, so..wtf happened here? xD
4) Scout's main asset was speed and mobility, spends entire match mostly walking still and being an easy target. Cmon you gotta admit that was BS.

So yeh color me as surprised and disagreeing with the result. Ffs i don't even play tf2 so it's not like you can say im some die hard tf2 fanboy
Yes, and they also gave Scout two Bonks, and one of them lasted WAY longer than the time limit it is supposed to have.
For the actual fights themselves they do bend the rules slightly for the sake of an entertaining fight, and I believe I remember reading that the fights are meant mainly to entertain, the events as they happen not specifically what would ACTUALLY happen.
 

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I just wanted to say I want to find a show in the future which people just talk and use pictures only for reference to make a point.
Like, to have different fans of a specific characters and talk why their character would win a battle against another.
The closest I can think was the one Linkara, Spoony and Angry Videogame Nerd made:
http://spoonyexperiment.com/channel-awesome/the-deadliest-character/

This, but only talking as I said.
 

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Chessrook44 said:
For the actual fights themselves they do bend the rules slightly for the sake of an entertaining fight, and I believe I remember reading that the fights are meant mainly to entertain, the events as they happen not specifically what would ACTUALLY happen.
Heh i feel this might be one of the times it backfires on them then considering how legit angry i've seen people get in the past when they didn't like the result xP Actually i guess that's an easy prediction to make, there's only been a handful of DBs where i didn't see people foaming at the mouth at each other in the comments section.

I thought it was weird he could keep chaining up the bonks, but i don't play tf2 so wasn't sure about that.
Regardless of who wins or lose, i expected a fight between two speedsters, and scout was just a slow moving target for most of it. Thus you can feel he was going to lose quite early, especially when he seemed to only rely on the bonk gimmick xD
 

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Frankster said:
Chessrook44 said:
For the actual fights themselves they do bend the rules slightly for the sake of an entertaining fight, and I believe I remember reading that the fights are meant mainly to entertain, the events as they happen not specifically what would ACTUALLY happen.
Heh i feel this might be one of the times it backfires on them then considering how legit angry i've seen people get in the past when they didn't like the result xP Actually i guess that's an easy prediction to make, there's only been a handful of DBs where i didn't see people foaming at the mouth at each other in the comments section.
Oh it's been a backfire for ages. Often times I've seen people watch the video before pointing out how something in the fight would not have worked that way. It was demonstrated in this very post even, like when someone pointed out Superman just walking through a Kamehameha. Sure, maybe it's possible, but at the same time, maybe that was just done for dramatic effect.

Watch the video part for entertainment, and the analysis for what would ACTUALLY be the outcome.
 

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Never seen this show. Looks like those arguments that you hear at your local gamestop/comic store the show. Hell, I don't think I've ever seen a Rooster Teeth video.