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jamanticus post=18.73744.808119 said:
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jamanticus post=18.73744.806791 said:
Aliens!.... I can't believe I forgot about that one.......
Matter of opinion- I think Alien is the better film.
All of this is a matter of opinion, really. I suppose the main reason why people would differ on their opinion of Aliens is that it was much more of an action/adventure movie than Alien, and there wasn't quite as much claustrophobic, anticipatory horror in Aliens compared to Alien.......
Agreed. Completely different genres. I like Aliens better, personally. Alien 3 was garbage, though.

Alien Resurrection... despite being the black sheep of the series... is very interesting. Check out the IMDB page: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118583/

Directed by Jean-Pierre Jeunet - the guy who did Amelie and City of Lost Children!?!
Written by Joss Whedon!
Starring Ron "Hellboy" Perlman!

The whole start of the movie is basically Firefly and Firefly's characters can definitely be traced back to Resurrection, too.

Not that great of a movie, though.
 

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OuroborosChoked post=18.73744.808376 said:
jamanticus post=18.73744.808119 said:
Xhumed post=18.73744.807057 said:
jamanticus post=18.73744.806791 said:
Aliens!.... I can't believe I forgot about that one.......
Matter of opinion- I think Alien is the better film.
All of this is a matter of opinion, really. I suppose the main reason why people would differ on their opinion of Aliens is that it was much more of an action/adventure movie than Alien, and there wasn't quite as much claustrophobic, anticipatory horror in Aliens compared to Alien.......
Agreed. Completely different genres. I like Aliens better, personally. Alien 3 was garbage, though.

Alien Resurrection... despite being the black sheep of the series... is very interesting. Check out the IMDB page: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118583/

Directed by Jean-Pierre Jeunet - the guy who did Amelie and City of Lost Children!?!
Written by Joss Whedon!
Starring Ron "Hellboy" Perlman!

The whole start of the movie is basically Firefly and Firefly's characters can definitely be traced back to Resurrection, too.

Not that great of a movie, though.
The Special Edition of Alien 3 is a vast improvement, however.
Also, Charles Dance and Pete Poselthwaite are in it!

Yeah, Alien Resurrection was pretty dire though. Even very good writers have bad days (e.g. William Gibson wrote the script for Johnny Mnemonic. Ugh...)
 

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Xhumed post=18.73744.808513 said:
The Special Edition of Alien 3 is a vast improvement, however.
Also, Charles Dance and Pete Poselthwaite are in it!

Yeah, Alien Resurrection was pretty dire though. Even very good writers have bad days (e.g. William Gibson wrote the script for Johnny Mnemonic. Ugh...)
Oh, I know! Johnny Mnemonic was HORRIBLE. When I looked for what hack of a writer wrote the script for it, I was blown away when it was the original author.
 

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Sonic the Hedgehog 2 FTW!! Y'know before they let loose the cardinal sin of making them try to say what they think the kids today wanna hear ("Hey man this is really happenin'" When I hear that I die a little inside) and give guns to hedgehogs (unless it fires shuriken, lightning, fire AND has boobs it just shouldn't be done)
 

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OuroborosChoked post=18.73744.808523 said:
Xhumed post=18.73744.808513 said:
The Special Edition of Alien 3 is a vast improvement, however.
Also, Charles Dance and Pete Poselthwaite are in it!

Yeah, Alien Resurrection was pretty dire though. Even very good writers have bad days (e.g. William Gibson wrote the script for Johnny Mnemonic. Ugh...)
Oh, I know! Johnny Mnemonic was HORRIBLE. When I looked for what hack of a writer wrote the script for it, I was blown away when it was the original author.
"It's Jesus time!"
 

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EnzoHonda post=18.73744.808271 said:
The Road Warrior (Mad Max 2). I actually like the first one more, but the second is generally considered the best of the series. "Push me, shove you! Oh yeah, says who?"
acually road warrior was first and mad max beyond the thunderdome was second (mad max was terrible)
 

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I'm not feeling the Dark Knight love. Begins was way tauter and more exciting, plus it had a sweet pyramid-shaped narrative structure. DK seemed kind of a rambling bore.

Xhumed post=18.73744.808513 said:
OuroborosChoked post=18.73744.808376 said:
jamanticus post=18.73744.808119 said:
Xhumed post=18.73744.807057 said:
jamanticus post=18.73744.806791 said:
Aliens!.... I can't believe I forgot about that one.......
Matter of opinion- I think Alien is the better film.
All of this is a matter of opinion, really. I suppose the main reason why people would differ on their opinion of Aliens is that it was much more of an action/adventure movie than Alien, and there wasn't quite as much claustrophobic, anticipatory horror in Aliens compared to Alien.......
Agreed. Completely different genres. I like Aliens better, personally. Alien 3 was garbage, though.

Alien Resurrection... despite being the black sheep of the series... is very interesting. Check out the IMDB page: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118583/

Directed by Jean-Pierre Jeunet - the guy who did Amelie and City of Lost Children!?!
Written by Joss Whedon!
Starring Ron "Hellboy" Perlman!

The whole start of the movie is basically Firefly and Firefly's characters can definitely be traced back to Resurrection, too.

Not that great of a movie, though.
The Special Edition of Alien 3 is a vast improvement, however.
Also, Charles Dance and Pete Poselthwaite are in it!
I agree, although the sound quality on the previously deleted scenes makes me want to cry.
 

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(ZHU) Michael post=18.73744.808627 said:
EnzoHonda post=18.73744.808271 said:
The Road Warrior (Mad Max 2). I actually like the first one more, but the second is generally considered the best of the series. "Push me, shove you! Oh yeah, says who?"
acually road warrior was first and mad max beyond the thunderdome was second (mad max was terrible)
I've only seen the original and Road Warrior, but I do love them both.
Got to love post-apocalyptic fashion...
 

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In terms of movies:

Chronicles of Riddick. Freakin' love Pitch Black, but Chronicles was made of so much win I may have to watch it right now...

Dark Knight totally blew me away. Loved Batman Begins for the darkness and nonshitness of the previous 3 batman films (Also a huge Christian Bale fan)

Spiderman 2 and Xmen 2 both exceeded expectations. Also can't believe that no-one has said Indiana Jones: Raiders of the lost Ark. (Or they may have but I missed it o_O)

For games I have to say Diablo 2 and God of War 2. I would love to say Knights of the Old Republic:Sith lords, but that would be a lie.. a big fat lie with a shitty plot :(
 

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axia777 post=18.73744.807869 said:
The Empire Strikes Back. BEST SEQUEL EVER MADE. PERIOD. The Dark Knight comes after that. What a good movie.

As for games? Half-Life 2 obviously. So good I still play it. I would seriously buy it over again if Valve came out with a super hi-def, updated graphics version of HL2 with 7.1 surround sound.
What's wrong with HL2's graphics?
 

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jamanticus post=18.73744.806765 said:
Don't forget about The Dark Knight- vast improvement on Batman Begins (even though it didn't have Liam Neeson in it......Oh well.....)
I'll disagree with that. I loved Batman Begins, most of my love for The Dark Knight was solely based on hype. The second time I saw it I was much less enthused by it.
 

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Shivari post=18.73744.808730 said:
jamanticus post=18.73744.806765 said:
Don't forget about The Dark Knight- vast improvement on Batman Begins (even though it didn't have Liam Neeson in it......Oh well.....)
I'll disagree with that. I loved Batman Begins, most of my love for The Dark Knight was solely based on hype. The second time I saw it I was much less enthused by it.
I suppose I'll respect your argument, Shivari. Probably the main reason I liked The Dark Knight better than its predecessor was that it had a more complex plot and more black humor than Batman Begins.

Hype was a large part, I agree.......But I still loved it the second time I saw it......
 

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jamanticus post=18.73744.808745 said:
Shivari post=18.73744.808730 said:
jamanticus post=18.73744.806765 said:
Don't forget about The Dark Knight- vast improvement on Batman Begins (even though it didn't have Liam Neeson in it......Oh well.....)
I'll disagree with that. I loved Batman Begins, most of my love for The Dark Knight was solely based on hype. The second time I saw it I was much less enthused by it.
I suppose I'll respect your argument, Shivari. Probably the main reason I liked The Dark Knight better than its predecessor was that it had a more complex plot and more black humor than Batman Begins.

Hype was a large part, I agree.......But I still loved it the second time I saw it......
The second time I just couldn't get over how illogical the plot was. Hell, even the first time everyone I went with was like "Yeah, one of those boats would've been in flames in seconds if it were real." And the Joker's whole plan to get into jail but then escape as Batman went to save Harvey and the girl who he had no chemistry with? That's way too convoluted for my tastes and would never work. Basically, without Heath Ledger that movie would've been average.

I'd put this in spoilers or something, but it's like talking about the ending to the 7th Harry Potter book at this point. Everyone read it already. Ahh, the good old times of reading that book in less than two days.

Ah ha! A way to justify my digression! The sequels to the first Harry Potter were much better.