Serial Killer Game 74: BETRAYAL AT THE CONSORTIA OF EVIL INTENT- Turn Six, Hero Step ( Death Post)
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Huh, well. Lets have a bit of a roles discussion here, so we can better decide on what we want to be. Here are some thoughts on the likely behaviors of the various roles and how they are probably going to interfere with the game:
It also goes to show the necessity of keeping your role a secret.
Just throwing some ideas out there. Mostly because I'm having troubles deciding what to be... Nothing new there. Still thought it would be a good idea to try and eke out some of the pros and cons of each class.
It also goes to show the necessity of keeping your role a secret.
If we wanted to cheese the game, everyone (and I mean literally everyone) picks mastermind then defends the next person on the list. The hero will only be able to kill one person (the person they would be protecting if they weren't the hero), which would immediately reveal who the hero is.
But there's no fun in that
But there's no fun in that
Already covered that. Got a telling off from GM. T_Tcrimson5pheonix said:If we wanted to cheese the game, everyone (and I mean literally everyone) picks mastermind then defends the next person on the list. The hero will only be able to kill one person (the person they would be protecting if they weren't the hero), which would immediately reveal who the hero is.
But there's no fun in that
Still, I reckon there might be a possibility of there being a 'mastermind' conglomerate, where the masterminds all work together. Then get totally wrecked when all the other players mess them over.
Brawler: Great, if you have a lot of information...otherwise not so much.
Hey Arma, does the brawler get some kind of confirmation whether his ability was successful in stopping his target's powers or not?
Controller: It's an interesting one, since you have to predict your targets intentions. As your name is one of the 3, you actually want to target the people who you DON'T think would vote for you. However, if your target guesses which one of you was the Controller, he may vote for you out of sheer spite.
Corruptor: Essentially a suicide bomber. Great at screwing over people who vote for him, but that doesn't increase his chances of survival.
Hey Arma, if the Infiltrator moves a vote from someone else onto a Corruptor, does the Infiltrator get affected by the Corruptor's ability?
Dominator: This one seems like he's actually the most useful in terms of not letting Bad Pouch win, since he can gather information on who people are voting for. Probably the closest to an "altruistic" role in the game. Though his ability also helps him survive if he knows who is voting for him.
Infiltrator: This guy has an interesting choice. Does he remove votes from himself, or does he try to predict who will be executed to get extra votes? Though like Armadox said in the chat, removing all the votes from himself might be dangerous, if he doesn't want to paint a target on his back for Bad Pouch. Still, a good role for cowards.
Mastermind: The name is well chosen, since he actually needs to be a mastermind to predict who Bad Pouch will kill to get any use out of his ability. Also one of the few roles that can gather information, since if his ability was successful, he will know who Bad Pouch was trying to kill. His ability probably gets more powerful as the game progresses, since he gets less and less targets he needs to choose from. He's probably best served by just voting for people like a boring person in the early game.
Hey Arma, does the brawler get some kind of confirmation whether his ability was successful in stopping his target's powers or not?
Controller: It's an interesting one, since you have to predict your targets intentions. As your name is one of the 3, you actually want to target the people who you DON'T think would vote for you. However, if your target guesses which one of you was the Controller, he may vote for you out of sheer spite.
Corruptor: Essentially a suicide bomber. Great at screwing over people who vote for him, but that doesn't increase his chances of survival.
Hey Arma, if the Infiltrator moves a vote from someone else onto a Corruptor, does the Infiltrator get affected by the Corruptor's ability?
Dominator: This one seems like he's actually the most useful in terms of not letting Bad Pouch win, since he can gather information on who people are voting for. Probably the closest to an "altruistic" role in the game. Though his ability also helps him survive if he knows who is voting for him.
Infiltrator: This guy has an interesting choice. Does he remove votes from himself, or does he try to predict who will be executed to get extra votes? Though like Armadox said in the chat, removing all the votes from himself might be dangerous, if he doesn't want to paint a target on his back for Bad Pouch. Still, a good role for cowards.
Mastermind: The name is well chosen, since he actually needs to be a mastermind to predict who Bad Pouch will kill to get any use out of his ability. Also one of the few roles that can gather information, since if his ability was successful, he will know who Bad Pouch was trying to kill. His ability probably gets more powerful as the game progresses, since he gets less and less targets he needs to choose from. He's probably best served by just voting for people like a boring person in the early game.
Ahh, but from what I am reading the Mastermind doesn't lose his vote if he uses his power. So he both acts as a crap medic and votes like a boring person, until he gains the prescience to chose who the hero picks...
Again, this makes him a prime target for manipulation, or as a very strong temporary "ally" to the hero...
Other interesting alliances could exist between say a brawler and a dominator (to target some poor sap) or even a controller and a corrupter. Any other good ones?
Huh, yeah thanks. Didn't think about Infiltrator being a massive target if the killer notices that his votes are decreasing... Although I guess the infiltrator could also try to start painting other targets for the killer.
More amusing round than all masterminds would be all brawlers spending their turns beating the crap out of each other.
^_^
Again, this makes him a prime target for manipulation, or as a very strong temporary "ally" to the hero...
Other interesting alliances could exist between say a brawler and a dominator (to target some poor sap) or even a controller and a corrupter. Any other good ones?
Huh, yeah thanks. Didn't think about Infiltrator being a massive target if the killer notices that his votes are decreasing... Although I guess the infiltrator could also try to start painting other targets for the killer.
More amusing round than all masterminds would be all brawlers spending their turns beating the crap out of each other.
^_^
Huh, you're right, the mastermind is the only role that gets to both use his power and vote every round. Didn't think of that.Wary Wolf said:
An alliance between a Controller and Corruptor seems a bit one-sided in favor of the Controller. It's not like the Corruptor want to get as many votes onto himself as possible just for the sake of it. Depending on how the Corruptor works, an alliance with an Infiltrator might be more beneficial.
A Brawler and Dominator could ruin someone's day if they worked together, but they have to figure out who's the proper target first.
Oh ho ho, good questions.
Yes, the Brawler gets confirmation that they stopped a target.Fat_Hippo said:
If a vote is placed on a Corruptor via the Infiltrator's power, it poisons the Infiltrator and the target. All three gets a vote. Because the Corruptor is a nasty bit of work. Though a smart Infiltrator would know not to do it again.Fat_Hippo said:
Oops... Sorry, that's what I meant. Still shaking out cobwebs in the brain.Fat_Hippo said:
Probably any alliance should probably have a mix of roles: Mastermind to protect own/voting strength, brawler for power disruption on voting target, a dominator for intelligence and as many infiltrators as you can trust for vote protection.
That said, all you need is a killer or corruptor pretending to be a role and everything could turn to poo. Or people forming multiple alliances with multiple 'double agents' across the board.
Oof, that's vicious. Of course, while it would be a dumb idea for the Infiltrator to do it again, it's not like he can actually know whether he was affected by the Corruptor, or whether someone simply voted for him.Armadox said:
Also I've decided I will be the ghost of the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come to be the spirit of the spirit of the future season!